How much hydrocodone?

rory420420

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60 and eighth!?! I'm moving to your town!..75 a quarter here...duck..too bad your sis didn't like coffee as much as weed!...VTMi...I to have a horrible addiction to vagina..I tried a 12 step program but ended up humping a donut by the coffee machine during the meeting...I'm hopeless...
 

ambedexteras

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lol idc what anyone says. i am the biggest weed advocate there could be.
and i agree. Cannabis is not immediately addicting. in fact i believe it took
a LONG time to feel any sort of withdrawal symptoms when i stopped smoking weed.
probably 2 yrs without having a day off from smoking and thats about when i would say
if i didnt smoke i have a EXtremely difficult time sleeping. i go from eating like a 200lb
dude like i am. to eating like a fucking bird. i can eat like 5 pieces of pizza typically.
no weed, give me one piece ill eat half of it and feel like it is a brick in my stomach. lol
idk could be just be, but i associate addicted with withdrawal symptoms regardless
of how severe or seemingly lax.

i would weigh in on ur hydrocodone original question but it looks like u said u were already done
with em so no matter. ya ive known ppl who take 250-300mg/day (i shit u not) and they dont even
have an ailness of some sort. just fucking addicts. steer clear if u can avoid it my friend.
 

Impman

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THis is a political thread now. The 'natural weed smokers' vs reality.



yup ... top shelf is 55-60$ for 3.5 grams. Most bud tenders are cool and will throw on .1 or .2 ...... bend over or grow your own
 

qwizoking

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Weed is psychologically addictive that's all.. that can be too much for some. But their is no addiction, if you feel there are actual side effects I can point you in the direction of studies that disagree..
In fact here's one I posted in a response earlier :) .......I am definitely mentally addicted
."Hanley et al. [100] proved that the administration of oral THC had no significant effect on the frequency at which participants chose to smoke cannabis. A 2001 study published in the Journal of Neuroscience, however, indicated that the effects of a mood stabilizer (divalproex) and oral THC on cannabis cravings and withdrawal symptoms effectively reduced cannabis craving and very low doses of oral THC were effective in decreasing all measured withdrawal symptoms in addition to craving." Studies indicate people suffering from dependance and or withdrawal are likely to have an underlying psychological issue such as schizophrenia , major depression etc..........thought the original post looked a tad "ignorant" and figured you would just argue.. still probly will though... in any case weed does not cause withdrawal like symptoms period. That includes anxiety insomnia irritability etc. However a mental addiction that can be had for anything (my mom for example literally takes 8 baths a day she is addicted) will cause irritability and if you use it before bed chances are you will feel as if you can't get to sleep as fast.. similar to diphenhydramine which also does not cause dependence........
 

rory420420

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But,but..you live in california man! How can it be that expensive...no wonder people turn to pharmaceuticals..not cause they want to,but its all they can afford...the dude will not stand for this,man!...I really have no idea what a personal bag of weed costs,I'm lucky like that I suppose..but 60 an 8th is crazy..I only payed that much once and I was in indiana at a show..and had $ and needed some weed..but for recreation..if I were in pain id be doubly pissedd!!
 

ambedexteras

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hmm qwizo interesting man. ya i guess there could be an underlying issue there lol im definitely mentally addicted as well.

on the other handdid they make the study subjects smoke every day for 10 yrs?
im sure the answer is no lol then how could they know the long term addiction affects?
like i said it took a very long time b4 i felt the slightest inkling of a w/d. in comparison
to oxys/percs which u can feel like shit after a scirpt or like a week lol
 

qwizoking

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Not 10 years but once your body is saturated and receptors have acclimated there's no difference.. I smoke and unruly amount of bud (so much so, most people think I'm lying and that its impossible to consume such amounts) but in most studies its given intravenously and at much higher doses than 1 could ever hope to reach by smoking.. were talking gram after gram of pure thc (usually thc is the only compound being studied) being pumped in to them.........I'm not trying to say you can't feel addicted, the cravings the desire is very real just like a pregnant girls desire for nasty shit lol but it won't have any effects if stopped. There are no visible withdrawal effects. Your mental need for it doesn't cause you to sweat or not be able to sleep or even possibly die like a physical addiction..

If your referring to me saying "a tad ignorant" in my quote..... I was referring to myself in that quote and that was to someone else..not about this thread..I had edited that post to change it.....
Hmm I edited this post and my like went away? Does editing or deletion remove a like? ....could a been unliked I guess lol.anyways..........
 

ambedexteras

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i was wondering man cuz i reread my post like really that was ignorant? lol
but no i feel u man. i agree the IV is probably more potent then we could
hope to be smoking lol. i need to get on that Blue dream IV drip lol
then again i love the blue dream taste so give me a good weed
but bad tasting in the IV.
i agree with what ur saying wizo was just given ya shit about the ignorant thing lol
i wonder how long it takes before the study subject's

  • body is saturated and receptors have acclimated
    do you know by chance?​




 

rory420420

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The big pharm companies should make a hydrocodone/thc pill...then you could be addicted but too stoned to care...
 

qwizoking

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I do but its complicated. Its not as simple as 30 mg thc saturates blood serum levels for 1 hour and then is metabolised 10% per day.. http://m.clinchem.org/content/55/12/2180.long .....
Halfway down are some graphs... but your body gets saturated quite quickly and remains that way only for a short period........if there was a hydro thc mix that would be awesome
 

MrEDuck

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Weed is psychologically addictive that's all.. that can be too much for some. But their is no addiction, if you feel there are actual side effects I can point you in the direction of studies that disagree..
In fact here's one I posted in a response earlier :) .......I am definitely mentally addicted
Considering addiction is a psychological issue I would say that's all that matters. Dependence is a different story but without addiction you can stop something you're dependent on and move on without issue.
 

qwizoking

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That's all I was getting at... your psychologically addicted. Yes those cravings are very real but quiting cold turkey will have no effects.....the only way I get to go on a tolerance break is when I go on vacation and leave the bud. I've never felt the slightest of withdrawals.... anyway how did this even get brought up
 

MrEDuck

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That's all I was getting at... your psychologically addicted. Yes those cravings are very real but quiting cold turkey will have no effects.....the only way I get to go on a tolerance break is when I go on vacation and leave the bud. I've never felt the slightest of withdrawals.... anyway how did this even get brought up
Because the cannabis is a panacea that can do no ill crowd came in to pollute this thread.
 

VTMi'kmaq

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The big pharm companies should make a hydrocodone/thc pill...then you could be addicted but too stoned to care...
lmao rory brainstorming new drugs to get folks hooked! I'm sure its only a matter of time before something gets synthesiszed sp? ya I know I spell like shit oh fucken well , that's like a perc/thc pill.
 

rory420420

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Qwizo..my body IS saturated with thc..lol...VTMi..glue a marinol to a percoet..lol...I ate 20 marinol once and I didn't get shit off them...come to think of it I did the same with percocet..bad times...
 

qwizoking

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Yea when I go on a tolerance break I feel like I lose weight as thc is being metabolised .....bet you could lick your sweat and feel a buzz.....sorry, smoking and typing ..
 

rory420420

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Lol...I feel when I stop smoking that little towns in alaska and indiana are able to finally get weed and their drought clears up..sorry guys!lol
 

ambedexteras

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haha ya i smoke about 2-3 gs a day. i work from home so id say thats a low # considering lol.

and honeslty man if im taking percs i prefer to smoke my ganj. taking it in the pill would take all the fun out lol
 
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