Because some LP's are people too, there are plenty of folk whom cannot provide for themselves that they can cater too. I hope to be an LP soon, and fully support Conroy and every ones right to grow and consume cannabis. I think most LP's would hold similar views.
How many lp's can stay a float
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What if those compassionate growers you describe are licensed from HC?
Are you fucking serious? What is the difference between an LP and a DG? Well if it was done the right way from the start the DG was supposed to grow mj for a patient who couldn't grow it him/herself because of illness, lack of grow knowledge, lack of grow space etc. A way for a patient to get medicine at the cost of production only with no profit going anywhere. DG's were meant to be compassionate growers for needy patients.
LP's the brainchild of corporate greed are just another way to keep track of a what gets sold to patients then tax the fuck out of it, regulate it, and control it to how they seem fit. Both at a profit for the LP and the government and at a cost to the patient.
"many will have affordable prices?" WTF. Best case scenario is that (like what looks to be happening already with the handful of current LP's) the LP's will have a price war because there is a flood and over abundance of mj around right now, they will price themselves too low to turn a profit especially after start up costs, then go bankrupt.
Then maybe just maybe the government can put their tails between their legs and realize once again they fucked up big time. Maybe the timing will be just about right with court cases to back peddle to save a bit of face in the meantime. Just the laws have to be written properly so the system can't be abused so horribly again.
Exactly my friend
That is how it's meant to be. And if the current corruptly government supported LP thing continues you will see a lot of that happening anyway whether they are licensed or not. But yes, they should be licensed like they once were.
If you want to be an LP that supplies medicine only to real patients at a non profit then I would sponsor that to anyone that can prove they will do it that way at no cost to the LP. But that just isn't the case. LP's were set up to make profit for the LP and the Government at a cost to the patient. That's just a fact. And the government would never approve an LP set up the way I mentioned at non profit. Because non profits aint gonna be giving the government the gravy train they envision.
redi jedi
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What if I really wannabe an LP that supplies recreational cannabis, and in doing so allows me to supply medicine to anyone with a script, at cost. Does that still make me sound like a evil greedy bastard?.. lol
Fuck..if that ever happens..I'd give it away.
That might actually end up happening you never know with our fucked up government. They may just say fuck it and do that to save themselves so they can still make money off it cause the current plan they have was guaranteed to fail before it started. The game is far from over. They will be scrambling over the next year.
And no I don't think anyone would be an evil greedy bastard if they would be giving back to help sick people or to give free meds to aid in cancer research etc..where those meds come from a percentage of profits from recreational mj sales.
This is done all over the world already; albeit not in the open, nor under taxation.
redi jedi
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Call it a gut feeling, but I believe Mr. Conroys Constitutional Challenge will preserve ones right to produce your own medicine, but even if this happens. It doesn't help anyone that cant afford to set up a proper grow room. All those people that needed a DG (had to look outside their family) will still be SOL. They are the ones that will have to make a choice...back to the pills or not. I'm guessing most will go back to the pills unless they can find an economical supply of Cannabis.
To get to the point, we need to stop fighting for a flawed medical framework and end prohibition...we all know it comes down to $$$$.
To get to the point, we need to stop fighting for a flawed medical framework and end prohibition...we all know it comes down to $$$$.
WHATFG
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I am probably one of a very few people who got their pupl at the end of this mess. But I tried the dg route first for at least two of the reasons you give....in the end, I wasn't about to let someone 1) charge me for something they told me they would give to me and 2) allow the same dg to take part of my script to make money. I too think that we will be successful at the Supreme Court challenge, and if we are, then caregivers will still be able to grow for patients. Something is better than nothing in this situation.
PunkyDorrie
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IF, not when, unfortunately. Never put your eggs in one basket.
PunkyDorrie
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What makes you say none of them have ever been on 'our side'? Many were growing for patients under the old regs as well.
PunkyDorrie
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It's telling how people like yourself have to grossly overstate the prices to try and make LP's sound bad. Several producers are already selling for half that, and several are also implementing even lower prices for low income patients.
I think you just want to complain, and get your sense of identity from feeling like a perpetual victim. As others have noted, numerous dispensaries already thrive at these price points. You're just chicken little screaming about the sky falling for attention.
Lol they are already having a price war and advertising that they have the lowest LP prices against the other. You will watch them crash and burn. It's inevitable. Prices have ranged from $4-15/grm and only recently dropped their prices even lower to compete with each other ALREADY. Pay attention. And ya minimum orders of $90 per customer plus shipping unless they decide at the moment to compete against each other and through in free shipping with minimum orders.
Spin it however you want. You can't pull the wool over patients eyes. They aren't as stupid as you want them to be.
Time for a reality check. Pretend all you want. You know the truth deep down.
Are you upset cause you spent a lot of money trying to be an LP but now you are realizing it just aint gonna happen for you? Well that's shitty for ain't it? Maybe you may want to take a moment and put your self in a patients shoes who was told they could grow their own, then spent their own hard earned money to set up to grow their own meds, then had the government tell them soon after they can't anymore.
Do you think they will get their money back?
Greed, greed, greed. It's painful for you when it doesn't work out is it?
PunkyDorrie
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What does any of this meandering rant have to do with my point that you just grossly exagerrated the prices to try and make it sound like the situtation is worse than it is?
Your victim complex narrative is boring and predictable.
Brian Savage
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Forgive my faith in the Charter of Rights & Freedoms being upheld, as well as a Supreme Court of Canada order (R. V Davis).
PunkyDorrie
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I suspect you're correct in your confidence. I'm only saying depending on it being a foregone conclusion may leave you high and dry if it doesn't work. Having other lines of attack if this one fails is wise, no?
PunkyDorrie
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IOW, you get your entire identity from growing pot and are threatened by legalization making cannabis growing more mainstream because now you cant pretend to be an edgy counterculture simply for growing a plant.
I bet if broccoli was illegal, people like you would be obsessed with 'broccoli culture'.
Your like the moonshiners screaming about prohibition being over.
Lol you know nothing about me pretender. And your writings make you look like a drunk teenager FYOI.
People know who I am on this forum so your nonsense goes absolutely no where. You came on this forum looking foolish and now even more so.
I have been a DG for real cancer patients for years. I not only produce marijuana for my own patients but for others who supply to compassionate groups free of charge for real patients not phony ones with paid for licenses.
I also will soon be producing medicinal grade oil with a fellow compassionate mj supplier in BC to supply real British Colombian Cancer treatment doctors.
I have been donating medicine probably before you were able to walk and talk. If you do some reading instead of talking nonsense you would also see that I have openly offered to sponsor any growers who would like to supply real patients with medicine PROFIT FREE. I would also sponsor anyone willing to do that for Cancer research purposes.
I have been involved in the mj world long, long before any of this government bullshit came along. And I know Conroy and Harris personally and have sponsored fights against the government more than once with my own money protecting patients rights.
Your comments hold no weight with me whatsoever.
People know who I am on this forum so your nonsense goes absolutely no where. You came on this forum looking foolish and now even more so.
I have been a DG for real cancer patients for years. I not only produce marijuana for my own patients but for others who supply to compassionate groups free of charge for real patients not phony ones with paid for licenses.
I also will soon be producing medicinal grade oil with a fellow compassionate mj supplier in BC to supply real British Colombian Cancer treatment doctors.
I have been donating medicine probably before you were able to walk and talk. If you do some reading instead of talking nonsense you would also see that I have openly offered to sponsor any growers who would like to supply real patients with medicine PROFIT FREE. I would also sponsor anyone willing to do that for Cancer research purposes.
I have been involved in the mj world long, long before any of this government bullshit came along. And I know Conroy and Harris personally and have sponsored fights against the government more than once with my own money protecting patients rights.
Your comments hold no weight with me whatsoever.