How long are people waiting for to get their permits from H/C?

I phoned them the other day and I was advised that somebody would be calling me back within 5 days. It's been 10 weeks now and they said it takes 8-10 weeks. If you give them permission they said they will leave a detailed message if you aren't there when they call.

Buckets that suck you havent recieved yours as of yet took me 6 weeks for catergory2, was jessd right 40g aday i hope that isnt just for you? If its is I think your taking advantage but thats my opinion if its for multple patients i understand but this is only opinion. im became legal to have piece of mind and to grow my own meds not for profit but to each there own its a free country

Man. That's an ouch phatpharmer. I receive several private messages from people that are looking for DG'ers with their 80 gram a day prescriptions and you're saying bad things about me - a cat 1 patient who had cancer. I think before you say your opinion you should first do some research about marijuana oil and how it is used to reduce - even get rid of cancerous tumors. How much you need to start with and how much you're left with before you paint me as a bad person as you have tried to do just now.

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Man. That's an ouch phatpharmer. I receive several private messages from people that are looking for DG'ers with their 80 gram a day prescriptions and iyou're saying bad things about me - a cat 1 patient who had cancer. I think before you say your opinion you should first do some research about marijuana oil and how it is used to reduce - even get rid of cancerous tumors. How much you need to start with and how much you're left with before you paint me as a bad person as you have tried to do just now.

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This. Making rso takes a LOT of marijuana, which is why some people have been approved for more, as they seek treatment through oils rather than smoking, which gives barely any medical value.

I remember seeing when you consume marijuana in its raw form you get an extremely high dosage of the beneficial chemicals (100s of mgs), and when you smoke it you only get like a 10mg dose of the good stuff. Just a rough idea of why its better to ingest.

Thank you for explaining chronictre. I choose to ingest rather than smoke. Oil is my preferred sub type.

didnt mean to ruffle any feathers lol never thought of it that way tell you the truth the only oil i no about is the kind you smoke lol i 2 ingest more the smoke but choose different cooking methods. i didnt mean to imply your a bad person at all just as you stated miss informed thanjs for informing me maybe ill look into these oils At first i was thinking how in the hell can some1 smoke 40gs aday but i again i guess thats possible 2

it is all on the dr. shoulders, the 3k the dr charged was cuz he knows after 20g they put you in a different pile. The dr knew it, why his cost was 3k. i find many strains take alot of grams but some don't like grape krush or the lighter strains so working with them if you have a lower limit, selection is crucial.

when you started a thread for free 40g day meds and a grower said yes in exchange for a high plant count that wrecks our program. you did it infront of the world. we all make mistakes but HC seen it if you ask me. they knw that grower did it to up plant count and sell on the black market. it costs alot of $$ to grow meds. i grow my own meds not easily and it costs me $$. just stating the obvious.

I'm saddened to see that you feel that way Jessica. Even if HC did read our threads, they do not know my name. Plus as I mentioned above, many people with much higher prescriptions than I have - have sent me PM's to help them find DG's who will grow for free, and there are several websites out there that will do that. What they do with the excess Jessica is out of my control. Maybe they sell it, maybe they sell it to dispensaries, maybe they throw it away or smoke it themselves. I can't control that part of the equation.

The program is problematic because of the Liberals design and it has continued to be a shit storm with the conservatives. If they had inspectors coming in to inspect monthly then I think we wouldn't have our weed grown for free but until that happens, what the DG'ers do with the excess, I have no control over. Therefore I feel no guilt. Sorry, but I don't. If anything, I've made the effort to try to make changes. You know that better than anyone since you read through so many threads.

Everybody wants their cut of the pie...doctors included within the existing MMAR program. It seems broken to me. Thank the stars it's tax deductible in Canada.

I would tell my best friends the same thing. facts are facts and your grower dr and you are abusing the system unfortunetly. if you used 40g a day personally that grower would need you to cover costs if he wasn't abusing the system. I am all game for a medical user using 20-80g a day if they actually are but you are only kidn yourself. pay to grow it and don't trade plant counts for free meds. its wrong and i am sure many others do it, that dont make it ok.

I know you dont care about anything but free meds and what the growers does with extras. i thot you needed all those 40g a day?. how many grams have you used in the last 6 months? You mit not think everyone including hc has those ? but they do. Oh well i like you and i think everyone makes mistakes and the program would have a fighting chance without this stuff.

Thanks for explaining your position/opinion Jessica.

All us sick ppl with cancer/etc including myself have to pay 1-5g to grow it. Put all of the hard work into it. Why would it be fair/right for me to get a dr to sign 40g pay the 3k to him so i can exchange that for free meds, when the real sick ppl that grow there own are losing $$.

Shit get 96lbs free a yr, smoke 16 sell 80 for 100k a yr. No incentive in this world and all us idiots that grow our own r stupid eh. makes me wanna puke

I'd grow my own if I had somewhere to do it.. which I don't, which is why HC gives us the option of dg's.

DGs are definitely benificial for some patients, and so are compassion clubs imo. Their are some people who are physicly unable, are not in a favourable location, or just plain can't afford the equipment and materials to set the operation up. Is it ok for these people to not have any options?

I can't think of a single system that isn't abused in some shape or form........crooked cops abusing their power and position for personal gains, politicians lying and giving contracts to 'inside' corporations, doctors handing out heavy narcotics like candy for the kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies.
Hell, people even abuse their driving priveldges by speeding and other driving infractions.

13 days from doc to germination

Ahem...this thread has been hijacked by someone I like. This thread is about how long it's taken people to get their permits from Health Canada.

I stuck up for the guy many times in using 40g a day. i am disturbed cuz all the sick guys i know in wheelchairs with ms/cancer that have to pay to grow it themselves or to have someone do it for them are losing there right to grow cuz of this shuit.

How many guys from BC sent 20g a day script then paid 3k to get increased to 40g before even getting approved? Then started threads about trading 96lbs for free in turn for a script. You made your own bed.

I come from a hard working family, been growing for over 20yrs and it is like giving ppl on welfare more $$ per wk then the guy pumping gas.

EVERYBODY has to pay the costs of production or at least try including buckets. Why would he be above the guy in the wheelchair doing all the hard work himself.

Umm, so yeah where did you come up with a calculation of 96 pounds a year for free??

I have had an 85 gpd license in the past, and there is no 96 POUNDS from even a from grasm script..

Plus 80 pounds is not 100k either...

Where are you getting these figures just currious?

jessica d said:

All us sick ppl with cancer/etc including myself have to pay 1-5g to grow it. Put all of the hard work into it. Why would it be fair/right for me to get a dr to sign 40g pay the 3k to him so i can exchange that for free meds, when the real sick ppl that grow there own are losing $$.

Shit get 96lbs free a yr, smoke 26 sell 80 for 100k a yr. No incentive in this world and all us idiots that grow our own r stupid eh. makes me wanna puke

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Based of 20 grams per day
20 x 4.9 (plants) = 98 plants
Say you even hit a quater pound per plant
24 pounds average per round.

Anyhow the plant count is irrelevant, its what you are allowed to have per month that the dg gives to you.

20 grams x 30 days = 600 grams
600 grams / 454 grams/ pound =
1.32 pounds per month
1.32 x 12 = 16 pounds roughly per year.

If you want 40 grams per day, just double the above for about
32 pounds a year total.

For you friends that are paying, that is there choice, there are many threads on roll it up, where people are offering free meds. Your right to grow, what were you doing prior to 2001, when there was no medical marijuana laws?

People are living very long these days, and I am sensitive to your condition of Cancer, so what were you doing all these years to treat your cancer, and where you paying over the counter for meds, probably so.

You say you come from a hardworking family and you have been growing for 20 years, so I don’t like to assume, but since we are talking about marijuana, I’d have to say that is what you were growing. If so that being the case, it was illegal 20 years ago, so you have been making money from an ILLEGAL product at that time. So don’t be mad that people might be using this to make money to. What it was fair for you to be growing for so long, not on the program making money.

Buckets is also not above anybody, he choose to be smart, got a grower to grow for him. So what if he wants more, what’s wrong with that, why don’t you get your script up? What he can handle is not necessarily what you can handle either or use. You’ve only seen him posting that he wants more, not so much what he is going to do with it.

Again, you can assume what’s going on with it, but you really don’t know. Anyhow I call BULLSHIT. Don’t be mad JessicA

And this is NOCOLLINS2k, not buckets, ....

jessica d said:

I stuck up for the guy many times in using 40g a day. i am disturbed cuz all the sick guys i know in wheelchairs with ms/cancer that have to pay to grow it themselves or to have someone do it for them are losing there right to grow cuz of this shuit.

How many guys from BC sent 20g a day script then paid 3k to get increased to 40g before even getting approved? Then started threads about trading 96lbs for free in turn for a script. You made your own bed.

I come from a hard working family, been growing for over 20yrs and it is like giving ppl on welfare more $$ per wk then the guy pumping gas.

EVERYBODY has to pay the costs of production or at least try including buckets. Why would he be above the guy in the wheelchair doing all the hard work himself.

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lol 96lb free a yr is what these free loaders like paroah post. my mistake buckets is only 32lb a yr. How is it paid for? i know it isnt grown free. I have never hidden behind the MMAR program while selling MJ cuz i have to look at the real sick ppl when they have to pay 8.80 a gram next yr. That includes me you and buckets.

he can afford 3k for a dr. donate $$.etc when most growers i know can barely afford good genetics. i got no problem if he smokes 400g a day if he pays the cost ofgrowing. i am glad he was made to wait and when they watch his grower move it, he can realise he helped put him in that position or man up and cover the costs of growing. buckets isn't the only one, lotsa free loaders all over.

I think you really need to get off your high horse and realize that plain and simple some people are simply unable to grow their own or more importantly afford to pay cost involved in such in whichever way shape or form.....yet you have the audacity to label such as free loaders??

I have worked my bag off all my life and still do to this day when my back (and meds!) allow it. As I am away from home at times this makes it very hard for me to grow my own and as I am on a limited income this makes any costs quite difficult to deal with. This DG program has been a lifesaver for me almost quite literally! It will indeed be difficult once again come Mar 2014 but I guess I managed before so I am sure I will again. (fyi, I had a great compassionate grower that provided for me for years (yes even before being legit) until he moved away). Now finally just recently getting everything legalized/finding another dg they are now changing it for the worse it looks. Yes, granted a part of the changes are surely to do with the people taking advantage of the system but as a poster put it above......its simply something that happens everywhere in most facets of life. Plus.....we all know the ONE main part/biggest reason for the changes is strictly for the gov't cash cow aspect of it all.

Anyways.....just saying that before you label us that utilize a dg in exchange for our monthly scrip to stop and think why many/most? of us are actually going that route. I mean who are we to say that (granted some are just abusing it though) a person wishing to go this route who has a 40/g/day script is not terminally ill or similar and actually IS juicing it/making tictures, etc, etc. Honestly, 40g/day is easily warrantable for such a person and it is not at all beyond the realm of possibilities that such persons (with the extreme costs of other meds/medical bills) would not just find it much more economically viable to utilize the dg program in this way.......not a damn thing to do with "free loading" for most of us.

jessica d said:

lol 96lb free a yr is what these free loaders like paroah post. my mistake buckets is only 32lb a yr. How is it paid for? i know it isnt grown free. I have never hidden behind the MMAR program while selling MJ cuz i have to look at the real sick ppl when they have to pay 8.80 a gram next yr. That includes me you and buckets.

he can afford 3k for a dr. donate $$.etc when most growers i know can barely afford good genetics. i got no problem if he smokes 400g a day if he pays the cost ofgrowing. i am glad he was made to wait and when they watch his grower move it, he can realise he helped put him in that position or man up and cover the costs of growing. buckets isn't the only one, lotsa free loaders all over.

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