Hollatchaboy
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No bed.... yet. I grow a couple moms in 5 gal. Fabrics.Are you saying you give 5-10% of the soil volume in water? Is it a bed? I forgot,
I use my earthbox for flowering.
How I accelerate fade in soil
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I use my earthbox for flowering.
twentyeight.threefive
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So you’re saying it’s just coincidence that I was banned from your thread? I didn’t post anything but questions and helpful advice.
I just tried the following experiments:
1) Dumped 3.3PH water into pot of soil. Runoff was 5.7.
2) Dumped 10.5PH water into pot of soil. Runoff was 7.4.
So my 3.3PH method may not be quite as effective as I thought. Runoff at 5.7 isn't going to cause massive lockout, maybe just a little bit of NPK lockout. Enough to accelerate fade? Maybe. Maybe not.
1) Dumped 3.3PH water into pot of soil. Runoff was 5.7.
2) Dumped 10.5PH water into pot of soil. Runoff was 7.4.
So my 3.3PH method may not be quite as effective as I thought. Runoff at 5.7 isn't going to cause massive lockout, maybe just a little bit of NPK lockout. Enough to accelerate fade? Maybe. Maybe not.
Holy hell, if I gave my beds 10% water to soil volume I would be scared and my well would run dry..Are you saying you give 5-10% of the soil volume in water? Is it a bed? I forgot,
My outside beds are 16ft long x 5ft wide x 4ft deep dug out and refilled with pre made organic soil, the amount of soil I mixed this spring, there is NO way I am putting 10% water volume to that, I would be giving these plants 100's of gallons of water.
Hollatchaboy
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If your going to use bottled nutes, why not just go hydro? You'd get much better results imo.
PadawanWarrior
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Your actual soil pH is probably around 6.5 I'm guessing. If you are in soil with microbes the soil should want to stay around that area. Maybe use ice cold water, or cool those roots somehow. Colder air temps should help too. Just a guess.
Flushing with a flushing agent might help too. Lots of stuff are flushing agents. I think most are acidic.
PadawanWarrior
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I agree, but I usually don't say anything. Soil with salts works, but I'm with you on this one.
OldMedUser
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I'm growing 5 autos in a raised bed outside this year and yesterday used a new 50' soaker hose to water my 4x8x1.5'deep bed. Left it on real low pressure so it wouldn't get the plants wet for about 5 hours until my moisture probe showed Wet 7" down everywhere I put it.
I still have 8' more of the bed to fill and was thinking that I might bury one of those hoses and pump air through it to oxygenate the soil. I just got a new aerator for my dugout last fall and don't need it after the ice melts on the dugout so could use it for that. Put it on a timer and run 15 min out of every hour or something.
I agree the results would probably be much more dramatic. But I just don't like hydro weed - I know, that's a whole other argument. I'm firmly in the soil camp for now.
twentyeight.threefive
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Wait… how are you going to get that smooth white ash cannabis without flushing it?
OldMedUser
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Looks like a bomb crater! lol
I got 18" deep but just growing little autos so that's lots for them. Too far north at 56° for photos to make it. Should be cropping around Sept. 11 like last year.
OldMedUser
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He isn't the OP ya know and hasn't been complaining about black ash.
When I was building it my wife came out and asked me if she should start to feel concerned.. I could fit my entire family, laid down, head to toe and there is still room for more.Looks like a bomb crater! lol
I got 18" deep but just growing little autos so that's lots for them. Too far north at 56° for photos to make it. Should be cropping around Sept. 11 like last year.
twentyeight.threefive
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Sorry you missed the joke about flushing.
Yup my soil is 6.5. The cooling the roots thing is interesting for sure...
Unfortunately I can't get my dark temps below 72 in the summer, that's one of the reasons I started messin around with the PH thing.
Hollatchaboy
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Then go organic, and drop the bottle. Lol
Billy the Mountain
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It's great you're getting results you're pleased with, but it's folly to suggest using salt-based nutes will result in black ash; it doesn't.
Why do you think people flush synthetic nutrients?