How I accelerate fade in soil

twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

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Kassiopeija said:
no you just use your head to imagine what happens when you rip the xylem apart

you need to stop telling lies and shut tf up with yout dumb prococation and toxicity within threads lmao
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So you’re saying it’s just coincidence that I was banned from your thread? I didn’t post anything but questions and helpful advice.
 
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budrock61

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I just tried the following experiments:
1) Dumped 3.3PH water into pot of soil. Runoff was 5.7.
2) Dumped 10.5PH water into pot of soil. Runoff was 7.4.

So my 3.3PH method may not be quite as effective as I thought. Runoff at 5.7 isn't going to cause massive lockout, maybe just a little bit of NPK lockout. Enough to accelerate fade? Maybe. Maybe not.
 
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Playk328

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PadawanWarrior said:
Are you saying you give 5-10% of the soil volume in water? Is it a bed? I forgot, bongsmilie
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Holy hell, if I gave my beds 10% water to soil volume I would be scared and my well would run dry..

My outside beds are 16ft long x 5ft wide x 4ft deep dug out and refilled with pre made organic soil, the amount of soil I mixed this spring, there is NO way I am putting 10% water volume to that, I would be giving these plants 100's of gallons of water.
 
Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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budrock61 said:
I just tried the following experiments:
1) Dumped 3.3PH water into pot of soil. Runoff was 5.7.
2) Dumped 10.5PH water into pot of soil. Runoff was 7.4.

So my 3.3PH method may not be quite as effective as I thought. Runoff at 5.7 isn't going to cause massive lockout, maybe just a little bit of NPK lockout. Enough to accelerate fade? Maybe. Maybe not.
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If your going to use bottled nutes, why not just go hydro? You'd get much better results imo.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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budrock61 said:
I just tried the following experiments:
1) Dumped 3.3PH water into pot of soil. Runoff was 5.7.
2) Dumped 10.5PH water into pot of soil. Runoff was 7.4.

So my 3.3PH method may not be quite as effective as I thought. Runoff at 5.7 isn't going to cause massive lockout, maybe just a little bit of NPK lockout. Enough to accelerate fade? Maybe. Maybe not.
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Your actual soil pH is probably around 6.5 I'm guessing. If you are in soil with microbes the soil should want to stay around that area. Maybe use ice cold water, or cool those roots somehow. Colder air temps should help too. Just a guess.

Flushing with a flushing agent might help too. Lots of stuff are flushing agents. I think most are acidic.
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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Playk328 said:
I can't try it, locking out my soil in my beds would be pointless.
I run outdoor with inground beds, there is no way you are flushing this bed without really damaging the micro life and bringing that ph down that low would spell disaster for future crops..
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I'm growing 5 autos in a raised bed outside this year and yesterday used a new 50' soaker hose to water my 4x8x1.5'deep bed. Left it on real low pressure so it wouldn't get the plants wet for about 5 hours until my moisture probe showed Wet 7" down everywhere I put it.

I still have 8' more of the bed to fill and was thinking that I might bury one of those hoses and pump air through it to oxygenate the soil. I just got a new aerator for my dugout last fall and don't need it after the ice melts on the dugout so could use it for that. Put it on a timer and run 15 min out of every hour or something.

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budrock61

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Hollatchaboy said:
If your going to use bottled nutes, why not just go hydro? You'd get much better results imo.
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I agree the results would probably be much more dramatic. But I just don't like hydro weed - I know, that's a whole other argument. I'm firmly in the soil camp for now.
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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Playk328 said:
This was when I was building one of the beds this spring.. I do not see how you are going to flush this nor put 10% water volume in these beds.
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Looks like a bomb crater! lol

I got 18" deep but just growing little autos so that's lots for them. Too far north at 56° for photos to make it. Should be cropping around Sept. 11 like last year.

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Playk328

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OldMedUser said:
Looks like a bomb crater! lol

I got 18" deep but just growing little autos so that's lots for them. Too far north at 56° for photos to make it. Should be cropping around Sept. 11 like last year.

:peace:
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When I was building it my wife came out and asked me if she should start to feel concerned.. I could fit my entire family, laid down, head to toe and there is still room for more.
 
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budrock61

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PadawanWarrior said:
Your actual soil pH is probably around 6.5 I'm guessing. If you are in soil with microbes the soil should want to stay around that area. Maybe use ice cold water, or cool those roots somehow. Colder air temps should help too. Just a guess.

Flushing with a flushing agent might help too. Lots of stuff are flushing agents. I think most are acidic.
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Yup my soil is 6.5. The cooling the roots thing is interesting for sure...

Unfortunately I can't get my dark temps below 72 in the summer, that's one of the reasons I started messin around with the PH thing.
 
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Playk328

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Yeah I don't have a problem with black ash, my ash burns clean.. I don't use synthetic salts, I am full organic.. Dry amendments, manures, composts and mother nature. It seems to be the best way for me.
 
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