How do you tell the difference between hemies and males?

Seamaiden said:

That's a good question, since the common consensus is that males produce very little THC, but females (obviously) produce quite a bit. Why not, then, if you can make hash from known males?

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pig420 said:

if the plant doesn't hermi to bad you can pull off the male parts. In my experience my hermi buds will have little bananas sticking out of them. I just pick them off. but u have to be careful not to bust em open because they contain pollen.

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cloudflyer said:

Alright, this needs to be said.
I of all people know that you become attached to your plants. Everytime I pull my males, it saddenes me. It is completely understandable that you would want to save them by justifing they are still useful. Unless you are making feminized seeds (feminized seeds are evil) get rid of the hermies.
They are way more trouble than they are worth. One pollen ball can polinate 100's of plants, and they will grow back.

Unless it is the only plany you have, kill it. Throw it away and be very careful removing it. It's not worth it.

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Barking Mad said:

How old or at what stage does a male have to be to pollinate females?

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It depends on so many things. First are you indoor or outdoor.
Outdoor the transition between veg and flowering happens over time, so how long it would take to produce a pollen sack differs.
Indoors I can sex my plants usually in less than 7 days.

My plants are now 5/6 weeks old.

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Total age? If so how long have they been flowering?

Out of ten plants I have had one male (he's gone) 4 definite females, 1 suspected female and (the root of my concern) 1 suspected male.

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10? Either it has two white pistels or balls. If it has both chop it

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cloudflyer said:

Barking Mad said:

It depends on so many things. First are you indoor or outdoor.
Outdoor the transition between veg and flowering happens over time, so how long it would take to produce a pollen sack differs.
Indoors I can sex my plants usually in less than 7 days.

Total age? If so how long have they been flowering?

10? Either it has two white pistels or balls. If it has both chop it

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Here is a pic of what I am looking at, its not very clear.

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The first male I had i saw these on it,

This ball is very distinctive and it was easy to spot.

I have 4 other plants that are not yet showing any signs which makes up the 10.
It's an indoor grow they are 37 days from germination.
There are more details in my journal.
Am using 400w mh and still vegging with a 24hr light sched.

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Barking Mad said:

cloudflyer said:

Am using 400w mh and still vegging with a 24hr light sched.

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First, my advise is to switch to a 18light/6 dark. You are just wasting power. You don't sex a plant untill it flowers. If there is a boy wack it though. When you switch to 12/12 you will know within a couple days. Also your trunk has some purple in it. That is bad.
use R/O water
PH ballance to 6-7
add nutes and check ph in 1/2 hour.
If you are hydro/aero change your res once a week.

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cloudflyer said:

Barking Mad said:

First, my advise is to switch to a 18light/6 dark. You are just wasting power. You don't sex a plant untill it flowers. If there is a boy wack it though. When you switch to 12/12 you will know within a couple days. Also your trunk has some purple in it. That is bad.
use R/O water
PH ballance to 6-7
add nutes and check ph in 1/2 hour.
If you are hydro/aero change your res once a week.

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I was told the purple was Ok during veg, its phospherous or some such deficiency which I don't need to add until I start flowering.
Won't I induce flowering if I change to 18/6 now?
I don't understand what you mean about not sexing until they flower. I have four females already and two of them have hairs all over the place.
Like these

Are you saying that they could become male when I start flowering? And is the ball in the previous picture not a male?
Questions questions questions, sorry to keep on.

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Barking Mad said:

cloudflyer said:

I was told the purple was Ok during veg, its phospherous or some such deficiency which I don't need to add until I start flowering.
Won't I induce flowering if I change to 18/6 now?
I don't understand what you mean about not sexing until they flower. I have four females already and two of them have hairs all over the place.
Like these

Are you saying that they could become male when I start flowering? And is the ball in the previous picture not a male?
Questions questions questions, sorry to keep on.

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the ball in the previous pic is male...but that doesnt mean the whole plant is male...check it for hairs...what you are seeing Bmad is preflowers....you still need to remove the pollen if you wanna grow out a hremie...sein as how your one plant is special...if its a hermie..then grow it out for seeds...but this pic is of pistil...girl...i dunno if I understand exactly what you are asking...but I was cutting male branches off of this plant up until the first pic...take a look...I only ended up with two seeds out of 1 1/2 oz's dried and cured..just cause you see pistils doesnt mean its flowering but if you see balls you need to remove them unless you want seeds. and no 18/6 will not make your plants flower

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honkeytown said:

Barking Mad said:

the ball in the previous pic is male...but that doesnt mean the whole plant is male...check it for hairs...what you are seeing Bmad is preflowers....you still need to remove the pollen if you wanna grow out a hremie...sein as how your one plant is special...if its a hermie..then grow it out for seeds...but this pic is of pistil...girl...i dunno if I understand exactly what you are asking...but I was cutting male branches off of this plant up until the first pic...take a look...I only ended up with two seeds out of 1 1/2 oz's dried and cured..just cause you see pistils doesnt mean its flowering but if you see balls you need to remove them unless you want seeds. and no 18/6 will not make your plants flower

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No I don't want to grow any males or hermies. The plant in question is the first picture above the one with the male pre-flower/ball I can't tell if it's a male or not.
Mainly I just wanted a second opinion as cloudflyer suggests I should stop my 24hr light sched for 18/6 and that the purple in the stalks is a problem that I need to sort out.
I have no reason to think his advice is wrong as he seems to know what he's about but, Nobody else has given that advice and my journal has had quite a few visitors and many different comments.
Of course two people can give different advice and both be right: More than one way to skin a cat....etc
just wanted a second opinion. Thanks for checking mate.

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honkeytown said:

No I don't want to grow any males or hermies. The plant in question is the first picture above the one with the male pre-flower/ball I can't tell if it's a male or not.
Mainly I just wanted a second opinion as cloudflyer suggests I should stop my 24hr light sched for 18/6 and that the purple in the stalks is a problem that I need to sort out.
I have no reason to think his advice is wrong as he seems to know what he's about but, Nobody else has given that advice and my journal has had quite a few visitors and many different comments.
Of course two people can give different advice and both be right: More than one way to skin a cat....etc
just wanted a second opinion. Thanks for checking mate.

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Gotcha...that pic you are refering to isnt showing sex as far as I can tell yet. I tried to enlarge it but nothing...I would also recommend 18/6 at this point...plants like dark. and yes the purple stem needs to be dealt with...have you been getting cooler than normal temps at night lately?

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I was told the purple was Ok during veg, its phospherous or some such deficiency which I don't need to add until I start flowering.
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If you fix the problem today, it will be clear in a month. I have never heard of it being ok in veg, but that could be true, I don't know. I know that a healthy stock is green.

Won't I induce flowering if I change to 18/6 now?

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No you wont. It is the dark that determines the stage of a plant , not the light. 18 hours is all the light it needs. Plants put much of their growth on at night (unless there is no night) It stores enery than uses that energy to put on mass. It needs to rest too.

I don't understand what you mean about not sexing until they flower. I have four females already and two of them have hairs all over the place.

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Preflowers. I see by looking close you are using soil. I have not grown with soil for 10 years. I put mine into flowering at 2-3 weeks of veg (about18 in). I never see preflowers, but within 4 days of 12/12 pistels and balls emerge.

Are you saying that they could become male when I start flowering? And is the ball in the previous picture not a male?

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If you have a hermie, you could see mostly pistels, miss one ball, and poof.
Yes the ball in the preivious one is male.

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cloudflyer said:

I was told the purple was Ok during veg, its phospherous or some such deficiency which I don't need to add until I start flowering.
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If you fix the problem today, it will be clear in a month. I have never heard of it being ok in veg, but that could be true, I don't know. I know that a healthy stock is green.


No you wont. It is the dark that determines the stage of a plant , not the light. 18 hours is all the light it needs. Plants put much of their growth on at night (unless there is no night) It stores enery than uses that energy to put on mass. It needs to rest too.


Preflowers. I see by looking close you are using soil. I have not grown with soil for 10 years. I put mine into flowering at 2-3 weeks of veg (about18 in). I never see preflowers, but within 4 days of 12/12 pistels and balls emerge.



If you have a hermie, you could see mostly pistels, miss one ball, and poof.
Yes the ball in the preivious one is male.

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Thanks for your advice. I read your journal (sig thread), very informative, I have a 12" UVB fluoro from keeping a tortoise, I will put it in the corner of my flower room and switch it on for 6hrs during the 12 light. Then I will compare the bud on the plant close to the UVB with the bud farthest away and see if there is a difference in the potency. I will be using a 400w HPS for flowering and will probably be starting that in a few days. So hopefully 12 weeks from now (after curing) I will have some results.
Have you tried adding a UVB or do you just stick with the multi spec MH?

Any suggestions on how I deal with the purple?
I have barely used nutes on the grow at all. My last watering I gave them about one third recommended of Ionic Grow, (UK, I think it has another name overseas) so maybe now I am introducing nutes this will deal with the problem.

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honkeytown said:

whoever it was from this thread that rep- me....FU asshole. some people like to keep hermies for seeds if they like that strain. depends on what your purpose for the plant is ya douche bag.

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Barking Mad said:

Don't mince those words Honkeytown lol, go tell 'em bro'!!

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honkeytown said:

whoever it was from this thread that rep- me....FU asshole. some people like to keep hermies for seeds if they like that strain. depends on what your purpose for the plant is ya douche bag.

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honkeytown said:

thx about the purple stem have your temps been dropping at all...?

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