I'm only 5 grows in and never have dealt with either or bugs thankfully. I use Ro water and advanced nutrients ph perfect coco sensei. I was 2 weeks in flower and had a family emergency, I asked a friend to feed them since he was gonna be feeding dog, so I taught him how to turn on Ro and mix. I even labeled bottles 1-6. I check runoff ph maybe 3 times through out an entire grow, and never had any issues since advanced nutrients always holds 5.93 on my apera ph60. Well I came home to the most horrible seen I've ever seen a tent. I almost want to chop and start over. I left a beautiful green tent and came back to chaos. 2 plants look fine 4 look like death. He said the only thing he did was used distilled water and showed me jugs. He bought and used distilled for a week, said he didn't want to wait 40 minutes for 5 gallon bucket of ro. My runoff ph was 3.61- 4 on the 4 bad one and 5- 5.2 on the 2 decent.