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MrMoores

MrMoores

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silusbotwin said:
IMO, SCROG is the most efficient way to grow, period. Your idea sounds pretty damn close in terms of efficiency. My approach is a multi-faceted one using super-cropping, scrogging, LST, and anything else I need to keep my canopy even, relatively thin and full. I say I keep it then because those lower buds are useless except for hash or personal stash, and when the lower growth is removed earlier before or at the beginning of flower, the plant will use all the energy it saves from supporting the larfy bottom junk will go towards weight in the valuable tops. The whole trick is to have a canopy with no holes for light to pass through and any growth that isn't getting light should be cut off.



Fuckin Tickle man. Hes alright with me.
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Yes yes definitely agree seems to be the most efficientway, I just came in the house carryng my plastic coated wire I'm gunna use and read your post weirdly,
So I top, fim then place scrog net in..... whip out ma Mac ten kik my girlfriends head in - top ten hit?
Rly thoe, I top em then fim then place scrog net? Then weave and was thinking of letting them grow in to the net for a ... Week?? Then chop any higher branches down so the hight of the canopy is completely equal?? Not sure about the choppin bit I mean as long as the more nodes above the net and obviously remove everything below the net, make sure I use Silicon in every feed to help the fim'ing, any tips any minor tips at all silusbotwin will be appreciated
 

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silusbotwin

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MrMoores said:
Yes yes definitely agree seems to be the most efficientway, I just came in the house carryng my plastic coated wire I'm gunna use and read your post weirdly,
So I top, fim then place scrog net in..... whip out ma Mac ten kik my girlfriends head in - top ten hit?
Rly thoe, I top em then fim then place scrog net? Then weave and was thinking of letting them grow in to the net for a ... Week?? Then chop any higher branches down so the hight of the canopy is completely equal?? Not sure about the choppin bit I mean as long as the more nodes above the net and obviously remove everything below the net, make sure I use Silicon in every feed to help the fim'ing, any tips any minor tips at all silusbotwin will be appreciated
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Sounds like you have a good idea of what you're doing, except if you top them, there will be nothing to FIM. It's either FIM or top, one or the other. They both do pretty much the same thing: cause two tops to grow in place of one. By saying "chop" I meant chop of all the lower scraggly thin growth so the plants energy isn’t wasted on producing buds so thin that they pretty much turn to nothing after drying out. Those smaller bottom buds sometimes LOOK as though they will be worth something but once the plant is done and dried, they become pretty much nothing. Actually, I wouldn’t recommend that you chop lower thinner growth this run. I'd recommend you let it grow so you can get an idea of what you need to chop next grow. If you chop the bottom junk off this grow, you wont truly KNOW the reason for cutting it off. So let it grow and pay attention to what becomes of those small bottom branches that don't get much light so you can SEE and really experience the reason we chop them off before flower. Then next grow, remember what they became and if you chop them off, all the energy saved from the plant not having to support it will be directed towards increasing the weight of your tops.

I hope that made more sense. I'm kinda baked at the moment so if it's difficult to understand, let me know and I'll try to type something a bit better when I'm not so stoned lol
 
RM3

RM3

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MrMoores said:
Yes yes definitely agree seems to be the most efficientway, I just came in the house carryng my plastic coated wire I'm gunna use and read your post weirdly,
So I top, fim then place scrog net in..... whip out ma Mac ten kik my girlfriends head in - top ten hit?
Rly thoe, I top em then fim then place scrog net? Then weave and was thinking of letting them grow in to the net for a ... Week?? Then chop any higher branches down so the hight of the canopy is completely equal?? Not sure about the choppin bit I mean as long as the more nodes above the net and obviously remove everything below the net, make sure I use Silicon in every feed to help the fim'ing, any tips any minor tips at all silusbotwin will be appreciated
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Tip, don't use silica with every feeding
 
MrMoores

MrMoores

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silusbotwin said:
Sounds like you have a good idea of what you're doing, except if you top them, there will be nothing to FIM. It's either FIM or top, one or the other. They both do pretty much the same thing: cause two tops to grow in place of one. By saying "chop" I meant chop of all the lower scraggly thin growth so the plants energy isn’t wasted on producing buds so thin that they pretty much turn to nothing after drying out. Those smaller bottom buds sometimes LOOK as though they will be worth something but once the plant is done and dried, they become pretty much nothing. Actually, I wouldn’t recommend that you chop lower thinner growth this run. I'd recommend you let it grow so you can get an idea of what you need to chop next grow. If you chop the bottom junk off this grow, you wont truly KNOW the reason for cutting it off. So let it grow and pay attention to what becomes of those small bottom branches that don't get much light so you can SEE and really experience the reason we chop them off before flower. Then next grow, remember what they became and if you chop them off, all the energy saved from the plant not having to support it will be directed towards increasing the weight of your tops.

I hope that made more sense. I'm kinda baked at the moment so if it's difficult to understand, let me know and I'll try to type something a bit better when I'm not so stoned lol
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Where u say " topping or fimming one or the other there both the same " I'm thinking top them to create more colas that I can then fim, I heard someone in a video refere to the combination of these two as "monster cropping" it makes sense to me to do this, in order to fill the net with colas that are goin to have the potential to be equal in bud production rather then a few colas bigger then everything else, when I top them id have to let the new colas grow out before I can fim them, so let em grow for 2 weeks roughly like a foot high then chop 6 inches down so half way roughly as long as there's about 6 nodes below this itl be good, then let them grow for a week or so and then fim the colas then place the net in and as it grows weave them in to it??
Or just top em and put net straight in and weave the new colas as they approach the net ??
 
RM3

RM3

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MrMoores said:
Where u say " topping or fimming one or the other there both the same " I'm thinking top them to create more colas that I can then fim, I heard someone in a video refere to the combination of these two as "monster cropping" it makes sense to me to do this, in order to fill the net with colas that are goin to have the potential to be equal in bud production rather then a few colas bigger then everything else, when I top them id have to let the new colas grow out before I can fim them, so let em grow for 2 weeks roughly like a foot high then chop 6 inches down so half way roughly as long as there's about 6 nodes below this itl be good, then let them grow for a week or so and then fim the colas then place the net in and as it grows weave them in to it??
Or just top em and put net straight in and weave the new colas as they approach the net ??
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monster cropping = taking clones from flowering plants
 
Flagg420

Flagg420

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arent flowering clones like.... a cunt to root, and then they go into reveg for like.... ever... before you can flower them again?

(Never done this on purpose, only when I realized I was about to lose a strain from the list I wasn't ready to)
 
RM3

RM3

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Flagg420 said:
arent flowering clones like.... a cunt to root, and then they go into reveg for like.... ever... before you can flower them again?

(Never done this on purpose, only when I realized I was about to lose a strain from the list I wasn't ready to)
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Mine usually root in 10 ~14 days and yeppers go thru a re-veg after rooted but then they grow like monsters hence the name, I do it all the time, I like the way they grow
 
Flagg420

Flagg420

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all them funny one-leaf nodes popped off everywhere lookin like a freak... my other plants made fun of her, she was sad all the time
 
Flagg420

Flagg420

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sweet... I got a monster of a WW x BB that bushed itself out, like 16days in... may have to knowingly give this a try :)
 
Flagg420

Flagg420

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Oh you can, u just have to be patient, they root slower, and then kinda stagger along a week or 2 after, then they veg like maniac plants, lol...
 
New Age United

New Age United

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MrMoores said:
Where u say " topping or fimming one or the other there both the same " I'm thinking top them to create more colas that I can then fim, I heard someone in a video refere to the combination of these two as "monster cropping" it makes sense to me to do this, in order to fill the net with colas that are goin to have the potential to be equal in bud production rather then a few colas bigger then everything else, when I top them id have to let the new colas grow out before I can fim them, so let em grow for 2 weeks roughly like a foot high then chop 6 inches down so half way roughly as long as there's about 6 nodes below this itl be good, then let them grow for a week or so and then fim the colas then place the net in and as it grows weave them in to it??
Or just top em and put net straight in and weave the new colas as they approach the net ??
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Can you explain fiming to me?
 
New Age United

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RM3 said:
Been doin it for years, no training, they just make little bushes of wonderful
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OK that's beautiful, so cut at day 21 that leaves two weeks to root, an extra two weeks to reveg, 4 weeks to veg that's 11 weeks, just in time for the plants to finish.
 
MrMoores

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New Age United said:
Can you explain fiming to me?
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Sometimes it's called super cropping, with the objective to create more heads/colas whilst keeping your plant short and stout you would take a cola, node, branch between your fingers and bend (without snapping) it to a 90 degree angle.
All the nodes above the bend in the stem then become colas, so to speak. Not read anything on this subject for a while so I'm sure my description is open to misinterpretation, it's very simple in practice.
 
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