Help, Leaves dying

I totally agree with the Nitrogen in flowering, too little is bad, lots of leaf growth, even more than the veg stage up until the last few weeks. My plant has few leaves till flowering and then its a canopy. I prefer to keep a balanced npk through flower these days until the last few weeks. Biobizz advised adding grow to the bloom through flower so gose to show really.

Out of intrest you were right Max, lime or dolomite lime gives the plant very little calcium or magnesium and dose not substitute for cal/mag deficiencies. Peace

max316420 said:

Sounds like your lacking N, you could just be underfeeding them. Yellowing isn't usually a sign of over feeding your ladies, so when flushing them you washed out any available food that was in your soil..

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The leaves are not yellow max, they are a fawn color and they are so dry, that they just crumble away when you grip them.

max316420 said:

What food are you using?

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Cana A, Cana B and Cana boost.

Kingrow1 said:

So you haven't tried cal/mag yet either?

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I have only just found a place that can get me Cal/Mag, it was supposed to come in to day, but it has not arrived, it should be in stock tomorrow.

what the hell color is fawn? lol Is it the color when all nitrogen is completely sucked outta the leaf?

max316420 said:

what the hell color is fawn? lol Is it the color when all nitrogen is completely sucked outa the leaf?

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I,m afraid i don't know what color leaves go when the Nitrogen has been sucked out of them, this is only my second attempt at this.
My first lot also went bad on me, the plants in that case went really thin and straggly as though they ave not received enough light.

They were what we would call (leggy) in gardening terms. I got a reduced crop from them though and it has lasted almost up until now. I grow my plants to help kill pains i get from a trapped nerve in my spine and also pains from a condition i have, that can not at present be diagnosed, although there is a strong indication that it is Asparteme poisening, i personally belie that Asparteme is the cuase of it, either way, this dear old plant provides me with better pain relief tha anything my Doctor has given me so far.

Take a look here below, this is a fawn Great Dane, the leaves are not exactly that color, but very very similar. I think said earlier that it is the same color as leaves in autumn, which is about right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawn_(colour)

max316420 said:

Got any pics?

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I posted picks earlier in the thread, or are you meaning a photo of how they look now?

I have been wondering though, that since this trouble started from one side and then spread to the others, if this not caused bu some kind of virus or insect attack of some kind, one of my plants is hardly affected at all and another one only slightly affected, thos too plants are on the right hand side of the tent.

That shit is BAD, I won't even let my daughter eat sugar free gum because it's in it.. We're talking about the same thing right? Shit that is in everything DIET and will give you cancer?

Does it or Did it look like any of these pics?



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Hi there max, the one on the right looks just like mine did in the early stage, but they have now advanced to where all of the affected leaves on the first two plants have died right back to the buds.

Strangely, even the worst affected plants still have some smaller green leaves left untouched and are still a lovely green color

I have just taken fresh photo's of the plants but i cant up load the pictures till i find my data stick as i have to transfer the pics from one computer that is not connected to the Internet, to the one i am using now. but i will post them as soon as i can sort that out.

max316420 said:

That shit is BAD, I won't even let my daughter eat sugar free gum because it's in it.. We're talking about the same thing right? Shit that is in everything DIET and will give you cancer?

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Yes the same stuff alright, but its not only in diet food and drinks, its most pop these days. Doctor Peppers is Aspartame free and there are another couple of soft drinks with out but i cant remember there names.

Aspartame is also sold under different names, such as Nutrasweet, Canderel and a few others, that in its self indicates there is a problem with Aspartame i think.
I'm glad to hear your looking out for your kids, its amazing how many people dont stop there kids drinking that crap, even after i have warned them.

I would not touch any artificial sugar, hell i dont even own white sugar anyway, we use raw unrefined organic cane sugar mainly and find molasses, tamarind, fruits etc etc can provide most sweeteners for a lot of cooked foods instead of sugar. We dont use a lot of salt either but some salt is important.

America in my eyes killed of a lot of traditional food industries like coconut oil and sugar. I prefer organic and home cooked with raw and natural ingredients. Bake your own bread with proper flower and it taste nothing like shop bought bread and frement it or use a sourdough starter and hardly any gluten either. A lot of our meals are veg and chicken with plenty of fruit and natural youghurt.

We recently find a balance of calcium and magnesium as well as omega 3 and 6 quite healthy and coconut oil absolutly changes your skin and energy levels as well as killing all bodily yeast infections almost overnight. Little fried foods with plenty of natural oils like avocado and olive.

If you need any dietry advice let me know!lol!

Have you got any pics of this damage on the plant yet? Peace

ralf said:

Hi there max, the one on the right looks just like mine did in the early stage, but they have now advanced to where all of the affected leaves on the first two plants have died right back to the buds.

Strangely, even the worst affected plants still have some smaller green leaves left untouched and are still a lovely green color

I have just taken fresh photo's of the plants but i cant up load the pictures till i find my data stick as i have to transfer the pics from one computer that is not connected to the Internet, to the one i am using now. but i will post them as soon as i can sort that out.

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That is a N def, just up your vegg food or use it longer into flowering... I promise if you do then you won't run into this problem again. If you don't feed them then as soon as the big leaves die, your smaller ones that are looking so good right now will do the exact same thing. People dig too deep into this yellowing delema (not spelled right) and over look what the SIMPLE solution could be. I was always taught to cut N at first flowering, and now I know IT'S COMPLETE BULLSHIT. IMO I wouldn't even start flowering food until AT LEAST the 3-4th week of flowering. That's when you actually need it. Good luck bro and hope all works out for you..

P.S. Nitrogen is easily washed away so if you flush then your gonna make your problem even worse..

is it normal for plants in there first few weeks or life to have slow growth follage wise and be prone to a few more sick leafs??

I use 1 teaspoon per gallon of Fox farms grow big in veg every watering. I have to use 3 teaspoons per gallon every watering in week 1-4 of flowering.

james gordon said:

is it normal for plants in there first few weeks or life to have slow growth follage wise and be prone to a few more sick leafs??

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Not if their up to health and in a decent environment

im not sure if im using enough nutes, plants are about 2 weeks old, im using 20ml of ab, 20ml nf zyme, 20ml fulife, and 20ml of cargo boost. in a 40l res....im thinking maybe the dose is too low.. what you think?

also they are under a 400w hid light is 40cm away from plants atm, light has been on for 24hr day since they popped out, i grew them all to 5cm under a fluro first...the temp is a constant 73-80 with humidty from 35%-50%

yeah, kinda...my feeding system has got blocked so now i just use the res to mix everything then hand feed. the tent is 1.8m high by 1m sqr...growing in coco