Help. At a loss...

Resinhound

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Nitrogen could very well be an issue also the dead patches and dark veins on one of the pics makes me think you might have a phosphate or magnesium issue but also what is your soil moisture like? If the plant is experiencing moisture issues (can arise from too small of a pot) it will shed its lower leaves and it can also appear to be a nitrogen issue. Moisture issues are typically too little water but over watering can result in similar issues especially if root rot occurs.

As other have said if there is a salt build up due to over fertilization you may need to do a complete flush or if possible a transplant if you feel comfortable.

A positive is that it appears your newer growth isn't suffering severe issues which leads me to believe any issues are not severe yet
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Outdoor growing dude...
I'm aware of that but in the pics he has them in relatively small pots so a flush while not the best option is feasible. Personally id ensure moisture and nutrient levels are correct and that the roots are not becoming too compact but he could cut the plastic pots and transplant them to a larger pot if it is a root issue. Salt buildup in smaller pots is occurs easier than in large pots if your nutrients are over done. Iv done a flush on a 20 gallon pot and it worked fairly well for the soil. By transplanting to a larger pot it is quite possible for rapid root expansion to alleviate the issue and the flushed soil stops future salt build up.
 
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TWS

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I'm aware of that but in the pics he has them in relatively small pots so a flush while not the best option is feasible. Personally id ensure moisture and nutrient levels are correct and that the roots are not becoming too compact but he could cut the plastic pots and transplant them to a larger pot if it is a root issue. Salt buildup in smaller pots is occurs easier than in large pots if your nutrients are over done. Iv done a flush on a 20 gallon pot and it worked fairly well for the soil. By transplanting to a larger pot it is quite possible for rapid root expansion to alleviate the issue and the flushed soil stops future salt build up.
Up potting is a good suggestion.
 

backtracker

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That's cause he used bad fish emulsion and it's not a guess. It's obvious what's wrong with the plant.
You wanna make a bet it will fix it ?
I have used fish fertilizer for years and have never had it go bad. ain't my plant and too little info to really know so no bets today.
 
nothing is sever yeati had just up potted her into a 30 gal container to check the roots. they look good.. so far what i have done (ive got merical grow set to the side for now) i have gone and balanced the ph of the soil to a 6.5 ill give it a week, if not improved ill hit it with a shot of mircale grow because, i want have time to save her if i wait too long. and we dont want that now do we <3


a- my fish food was and is new not old should be just fine. this is my first grow of this plant but im aware of out of date products.
b- my pot is 30 gal and she was not root bound diddnt see any build up (idk if thats visable) on any of the roots.
c - i had only fed her once with nitrogen to get the reaction, and it was a very bad result showing overnight.
d- the aluminium sulphate/epson salt combo was said to be a good idea from my hubby that helped me look into things further as this was kinda up in the air <3

but i will keep you guys up to date, if you have further ideas i will gladly listen

thank you so much!

also backtracker what other info would you need from me?
 

backtracker

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what is the soil? when you try something new you can apply foliar that way you can see the results faster and you won't end up with a water logged soil plus if it's the wrong thing you can;t take it out this way if what you try works then water it in. A tea made from worm castings, fulvic/humic acid, kelp extract, silica and yucca extract applied foliar will perk it up and keep it healthy until you figure out what's up.
 
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backtracker

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http://www.magic-dirt.com/ i asked around and this seemed to be what i could find for quality vs budget - it does tend to dry out quickly, so i dont think drainage is too much trouble.. ? btw thank you guys for everything!
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N = 1.5%
P = 0.50%
K = 0.55% That is not much food for a fast growing pot plant you need to top dress in a dry fertilizer like http://www.planetnatural.com/product/rainbow-mix-grow/ earth juice grow and bloom then keep foliar feeding until the EJ kicks in..
 
so its Thursday, gave them another shot of cal-mag today, because i kinda went light on the first dose, to see if it improves... still no luck. but shes stil struggling. tomarrow if i continue to see yellowing.. *i jsut dont know....ordered the food though...
 
Ok didnt have the desire to wait forever for shipping <3 but we have fixed the issue! First we gor some of the fox farms stuff and stared at a the beginning of the bloom cycle for the plants .. this fixed it all.. they needed food, and after talking to a local grower for one of my favorite dispencaries (my good fortune running into him) he explained i wasnt feeding them often enough... who knew! thanks all for the help! thoguht you might like what fixed the problem <3
 
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