++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

akpaco said:

HR, so you think I should lay off the OD? Thanks

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House and gardens is good stuff! And yes i think you should stay away from overdrive!
if you have not opened it just return it! Just to many issues with the new formula.

Warlock1369 said:

It will help keep it cooler. But to what point? Are you going to always keep it running like a RDWC? If not most people only have the pumps kick on 15 min every 2-3 hours. So no real heat change.

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fair enough. i was thinking it would be the lowest point for the pump to pull the water from as well, just to make sure it doesn't run dry. i will be able to check on my plants daily or at least every other so i think a pump in the cooler will be fine then.

2 more questions for u fellas.
should i put a 1000w light above each 3x3 tray with 25 plants in it or will a 600w be ok? if a 600w is sufficient but i will still see more bud with a 1000w, would it be worth it or the more bud i would get wouldn't be enough to justify the additional costs?

and just a rough flood time and frequency for lights on and off. they will be in 6x6 pots, cloned in 1in rockwool cubes with hydroton in the pots.

thanks for all the help and advice so far and the heads up on Overdrive. i was going to buy that but never mind now.

-Sterner

600 will be fine. But more light is better. But if you haven't got your balest yet look at the 600/1000 switchable ones. Use 600mh for veg and then switch to 1000 hps for flower. Best of both worlds. Save money in veg and penetrate the canopy in flower. All for just a few bucks more. And the basic rule of thumb on flooding is 3-4 even times at 15min run. But might need more if 15 min isn't long enough to fully flood the tray.

thanks for the info.

if more is better i will just go for the 1000's right away. there will be no flowering time. as soon as the clones have roots they will go right into flower i.e.- Al B. Fuct sog perpetual style.

so if that changes anything and the 600's will be just as good as the 1000's please let me know. i would like to save as much money as i can on upfront costs. i could buy 3 600w setup's for the same price of 2 1000w.

appreciate the help.

-Sterner

Hey folks,

Great threat btw. I currently run a passive hydro setup, but this thread has me considering alternatives.

I have a question for y'all: Do you think it would make sense to utilize a CAP controller to flood a 3x3 tray? I have limited height in my flowering space, and would prefer to not have the tray sit on an 8-12" rez. I know the tray would have to be raised to the point that the highest 'flood' would be even with the top fill point of the controller.

I already have a food-grade barrel, so would not need to buy a rez. Another potential benefit is that I could keep the barrel (rez) outside the flowering area to maximize use of my space, and I could keep the nutrient temps lower.

Thanks for your insight.

That is defenitly a option. All tho the brain bucket will need modified to your water levels. And you should have your table a few inches off the grownd and slightly higher on the far side for better drainage.

Thanks Warlock,

That was what I was thinking. The cool part is that since I have the barrel/rez, it won't cost me much more than putting together a standard flood system to incororate a CAP controller.

I'm finishing up my new grow space now, so I won't be spending cash on my grow for a little while (spouse has been very cool about the 'investment' so far). But, I think I'd like to see if I prefer washing the clay medium to hauling/ditching Promix and Perlite.

Depending on the amount of clay you need maybe not. I use 150L every few weeks and tried the clean to reuse once. Now I just fill holes in my yard with it. If you deside to get the cap bucket make sure it's the newest one. There where some problems with the old one that got fixed but they still send out the old one from time to time. R&M's wherehouse is full of them. Both styles. And the packers just grab a box. Not knowing what is what.

I only work a 3x3 at the moment, and would use 9 2 gal pots (~7.5 liters). That makes abut 70 liters of the clay. Hmmm, I'll have to consider this more. Thanks for the tips on the controller.

Using the c box with a flood table is killer! Would eliminate table heigth issues

That and it really let's you put the res anywhere you want. Even out of the room if you want. I got mine 15 feet away. But you need the right size pumps to move the water that far.

Kinda a crazy idea but if you had a large enough res you could use a cap c box to flood a few tables at once.

I help a guy up here set up 3 sets of 15 buckets. All off 1 55 gallon res. 3 c boxs. Set 45 min apart. Has to add water daily and nutes every 3days but only mixes 1 batch of soup a week.

hellraizer30 said:

Kinda a crazy idea but if you had a large enough res you could use a cap c box to flood a few tables at once.

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The think that attracts me to tables is that I would have to worry about chilling the rez less-- not to mention greatly reduced risk of leaks.

Glad you dig the idea.

Warlock1369 said:

I help a guy up here set up 3 sets of 15 buckets. All off 1 55 gallon res. 3 c boxs. Set 45 min apart. Has to add water daily and nutes every 3days but only mixes 1 batch of soup a week.

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why wouldn't he just daisy 2-3 55 gallons? still one soup making and a much more stable rez..

165 gallons is alot to mix. That and he wanted it in a 3x3 closet.

HR, I'm in the middle of doing my res change routine. So I'm flushing with h202 and my ppm's went from 150 to 210 so I just let it feed like normal with the h202. When my third feed was done ppm's were 320 so I just emptied and put ph water only and am going to let it feed the last time of the day at 10pm and see what it says. What should I do? Obviously there was some build up? Should I keep flushing till I get it down then add my nutes? Is it ok to run just water till I get that down? Any info is appreciated!

Thanks

akpaco said:

HR, I'm in the middle of doing my res change routine. So I'm flushing with h202 and my ppm's went from 150 to 210 so I just let it feed like normal with the h202. When my third feed was done ppm's were 320 so I just emptied and put ph water only and am going to let it feed the last time of the day at 10pm and see what it says. What should I do? Obviously there was some build up? Should I keep flushing till I get it down then add my nutes? Is it ok to run just water till I get that down? Any info is appreciated!

Thanks

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If you dont see the numbers go up much more in that many flood cycles i would re fill mix and let it roll!
Just means you got very little build up! And thats great.

hellraizer30 said:

If you dont see the numbers go up much more in that many flood cycles i would re fill mix and let it roll!
Just means you got very little build up! And thats great.

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Thanks for the quick reply bro!!

Hello room & hello to Dr.HR.I'm in week 5 of flowering DJ short blue moonshine and the smell is out of this world. I notice the large fan leaves are yellowing.is it to.early in the game for her to be yellowing up?. I think I'm on to something they were never this strong.