++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

Hey paco keep the overdrive to 1/4 strength been having some issues with it burning stuff! Not sure if they
changed the formula or what.

I normally make my own sweet. 1 cup bakers surgar boiled in a pot of water. Let it cool down. Add 2 cup real cranberry juice. Heat up and mix. Add it to my 50 gal res 1 week befor flush. Sweets make the system a mess. But stimulate any microbials around the roots. And I had problems with overdrive as well. Just deside to change. Went to cha ching.

Hows the chi ching working out for you warlock?

It's working good. I found it's better to use the full line. Open sesame the fist 2 weeks. Beasty bloom for next 2. Then cha ching till flush. Haven't had a burn problem from it and dosnt leave a taste when not flushed to long. I've been doing 4 day flushes and it's working fine so far.

The overdrive is causing the leaves to canoe and burning tips pretty good! Kinda thinking its stunting growth to

That's what happend to me to. Also seemed like the plants didn't take it up as much as everything eles and as my water went down my ppm went up. But that wouldn't happen when I didn't use it.

Yep im removing OD from my mix to many similiar issues

Phew...that was quite a read, all 41 pages so far...Some good info here.

I was thinking of using coolers too, for my 2 x 3 table, and I've pretty much narrowed it down to this 25 gallon one...Has a nice access hatch on the lid so I can stast it under my tsable and not worry about having to leave room for the entire lid to open. 55 bucks though, I feel like I could insulate a rubbermaid for about half that.....

http://www.walmart.com/ip/14550422?adid=22222222227000477961&wmlspartner=wlpa&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=&wl3=13688556910&wl4=&wl5=pla

Metasynth said:

Phew...that was quite a read, all 41 pages so far...Some good info here.

I was thinking of using coolers too, for my 2 x 3 table, and I've pretty much narrowed it down to this 25 gallon one...Has a nice access hatch on the lid so I can stast it under my tsable and not worry about having to leave room for the entire lid to open. 55 bucks though, I feel like I could insulate a rubbermaid for about half that.....

http://www.walmart.com/ip/14550422?adid=22222222227000477961&wmlspartner=wlpa&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=&wl3=13688556910&wl4=&wl5=pla

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I know alot of people use coolers, should shield alot of heat from warming your water. 3x3 with 25gal will require
adding back more often during mid to later flower. Larger volumes of water stay cooler longer to, something to think
about.

hellraizer30 said:

30 gal mininium and ideal is 50gal

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thanks!!!


so in theory a 37.5 gallon res will be enough to flood the table and keep the pump under water? or i was thinking of plumbing the pump up to the drain plug of the cooler. I think it would be a better choice for the simple fact it would keep the res a little cooler without the pump in it. thoughts?

It will but the plants will drink up water when your not around and then there could be a issue!
just keep it topped off and your good.

sterner said:

thanks!!!


so in theory a 37.5 gallon res will be enough to flood the table and keep the pump under water? or i was thinking of plumbing the pump up to the drain plug of the cooler. I think it would be a better choice for the simple fact it would keep the res a little cooler without the pump in it. thoughts?

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It will help keep it cooler. But to what point? Are you going to always keep it running like a RDWC? If not most people only have the pumps kick on 15 min every 2-3 hours. So no real heat change.

hr what do you think about sure to grow? or do you have a link for fytocell

dickkhead said:

hr what do you think about sure to grow? or do you have a link for fytocell

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Still hoping to someday get a hook up for fytocell

Sure to grow is a shit medium and i would never try it again!

hellraizer30 said:

Still hoping to someday get a hook up for fytocell

Sure to grow is a shit medium and i would never try it again!

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wow realy? why is that it seemed as promising as the fytocell

what about dyna rock? what do you think is the best for FD tables

I like good old growdan!

Sure to grow sucks ass. It is a alge magnet. And alge feeds on the nutes. Not really harmful but taking away from my plants. Grodan is good but not my cup of tea. I like hydroton. Or clay rock. Best I found was 100L of hydroton and 50L of the rock and a grodan slap cut to fit the bottom of my buckets. But the last few times I got lazy and just did hydroton. And I do not reuse it. To much work. I rather pay the 100 bucks a grow then spend 5 days cleaning that much.

hellraizer30 said:

Yep im removing OD from my mix to many similiar issues

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HR, so you think I should lay off the OD? Thanks

How about house and gardens shooting powder?