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thenotsoesoteric

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Lol people.
If somebody is gifted a cut, it is theirs to do with as they wish. Grow it. Sell it on strainly. whatever.
I totally agree but in this case supposedly green gave his word he wouldnt sell or give any away.

Word is bond.

I simply won't take a cut if Im told what I can or cant do with it. All my friends and family will get any cut they want from me.
 

Aussieaceae

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Funny how the shoe changes it's fit, when it matches a suit...

Something isn't a gift, if it isn't 100% yours.

All the bitching before about Heisen's ethics in regards to "stealing" said genetics. But now that someone has been "gifted" a cut, and wants to make something from it, then it's sacrilege.

It's all seems pretty lame to someone who isn't involved.

Been browsing CP too. Pretty fucked someone's being called out as a snitch on a public forum, without evidence being shown. @18six50 was apparently the one who complained to paypal a few days ago. Now it's not 18six50, it's @Greenthumbs256.
How tf does anyone know, did paypal say?
As far as i know, paypal is all over that kind of shit. What else is going to happen with multiple gift transactions through paypal? Isn't this the reason no other seed supplier uses them?

Sorry 18six50 and Greenthumbs256 for mentioning you, couldn't help it. Someone gets accused of snitching they need to know, and the ones making the accusations need to prove it.

:peace:
 

Dats my bike punk

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Funny how the shoe changes it's fit, when it matches a suit...

Something isn't a gift, if it isn't 100% yours.

All the bitching before about Heisen's ethics in regards to "stealing" said genetics. But now that someone has been "gifted" a cut, and wants to make something from it, then it's sacrilege.

It's all seems pretty lame to someone who isn't involved.

Been browsing CP too. Pretty fucked someone's being called out as a snitch on a public forum, without evidence being shown. @18six50 was apparently the one who complained to paypal a few days ago. Now it's not 18six50, it's @Greenthumbs256.
How tf does anyone know, did paypal say?
As far as i know, paypal is all over that kind of shit. What else is going to happen with multiple gift transactions through paypal? Isn't this the reason no other seed supplier uses them?

Sorry 18six50 and Greenthumbs256 for mentioning you, couldn't help it. Someone gets accused of snitching they need to know, and the ones making the accusations need to prove it.

:peace:
Theres places using them without incident. I just ordered some and used PayPal. I'm pretty sure it was mentioned that the dude was threatened in PM but he didnt post any screenshots of the messages. I didnt see where anyone accused green of snitching. Where did you see that?
 

blowincherrypie

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I totally agree but in this case supposedly green gave his word he wouldnt sell or give any away.

Word is bond.

I simply won't take a cut if Im told what I can or cant do with it. All my friends and family will get any cut they want from me.
Not sure how there could be an argument.. If someone gives you something on the condition you not give it out and you turn around and attempt to distribute the item for personal gain, you're a snake. I could see some grey area for giving a cut to family (close/close friend I suppose) member with good morals (who wont turn around and try to sell it.. see above snake comment) for safe keeping, but the person who tries to monetize off of the gift that was given with conditions is barely above a thief.

If you buy/trade a cut with no strings attached you should be able to do as you wish, but from my understanding this was not one of those situations.. part of showing appreciation for someone who looks out for you is to follow the conditions of the gift.. it's just basic respect/decency. it would be similar to not sending your part in a trade imo.
 

Aussieaceae

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Funny how the shoe changes it's fit, when it matches a suit...

Something isn't a gift, if it isn't 100% yours.

All the bitching before about Heisen's ethics in regards to "stealing" said genetics. But now that someone has been "gifted" a cut, and wants to make something from it, then it's sacrilege.

It's all seems pretty lame to someone who isn't involved.

Been browsing CP too. Pretty fucked someone's being called out as a snitch on a public forum, without evidence being shown. @18six50 was apparently the one who complained to paypal a few days ago. Now it's not 18six50, it's @Greenthumbs256.
How tf does anyone know, did paypal say?
As far as i know, paypal is all over that kind of shit. What else is going to happen with multiple gift transactions through paypal? Isn't this the reason no other seed supplier uses them?

Sorry 18six50 and Greenthumbs256 for mentioning you, couldn't help it. Someone gets accused of snitching they need to know, and the ones making the accusations need to prove it.

:peace:
Theres places using them without incident. I just ordered some and used PayPal. I'm pretty sure it was mentioned that the dude was threatened in PM but he didnt post any screenshots of the messages. I didnt see where anyone accused green of snitching. Where did you see that?
It's all good it was my bad. I came clean over there, and apologized.

I logged in here first this morning and saw the commotion involving Green. I've been tagging along at CP, and got things twisted.

Apologies @Greenthumbs256, you weren't labelled a snitch.

@18six50 are you a snitch? Told paypal?
 

natureboygrower

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It's all good it was my bad. I came clean over there, and apologized.

I logged in here first this morning and saw the commotion involving Green. I've been tagging along at CP, and got things twisted.

Apologies @Greenthumbs256, you weren't labelled a snitch.

@18six50 are you a snitch? Told paypal?

For anyone who reads this:

I don't know who contacted paypal in regards to him but if you know who did, would you please let him know; that would be nice. Just so he stops blaming me at least, I don't need this stress. If you don't want to let him know directly then please tell someone else on here or at chuckers so they can spread the word that I didn't mess with his account.
 

Aussieaceae

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Not sure how there could be an argument.. If someone gives you something on the condition you not give it out and you turn around and attempt to distribute the item for personal gain, you're a snake. I could see some grey area for giving a cut to family (close/close friend I suppose) member with good morals (who wont turn around and try to sell it.. see above snake comment) for safe keeping, but the person who tries to monetize off of the gift that was given with conditions is barely above a thief.

If you buy/trade a cut with no strings attached you should be able to do as you wish, but from my understanding this was not one of those situations.. part of showing appreciation for someone who looks out for you is to follow the conditions of the gift.. it's just basic respect/decency. it would be similar to not sending your part in a trade imo.
Dude i can see that, i get it, I wouldn't personally accept it. That's all i'm gonna say about the matter, otherwise it's being petty.
 

18six50

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Funny how the shoe changes it's fit, when it matches a suit...

Something isn't a gift, if it isn't 100% yours.

All the bitching before about Heisen's ethics in regards to "stealing" said genetics. But now that someone has been "gifted" a cut, and wants to make something from it, then it's sacrilege.

It's all seems pretty lame to someone who isn't involved.

Been browsing CP too. Pretty fucked someone's being called out as a snitch on a public forum, without evidence being shown. @18six50 was apparently the one who complained to paypal a few days ago. Now it's not 18six50, it's @Greenthumbs256.
How tf does anyone know, did paypal say?
As far as i know, paypal is all over that kind of shit. What else is going to happen with multiple gift transactions through paypal? Isn't this the reason no other seed supplier uses them?

Sorry 18six50 and Greenthumbs256 for mentioning you, couldn't help it. Someone gets accused of snitching they need to know, and the ones making the accusations need to prove it.

:peace:
Thanks actually, I'd like people to know I didn't do it. I didn't contact Paypal, I'm not going to contact them and I didn't get any money back from them either. Heisen should know I didn't get any money back and he hasn't contacted me to apologize. I don't much care about the seeds or the money at this point. I'm not asking for any money back and in fact I didn't ask for money back in the first place, he offered it, then took back his offer after I asked for his address to ship them back. I think asking for the address probably freaked him out, he started calling me a nark after that and changed my profile picture on chucker's to a RAT. Nice touch, that one. And by the way, this started over a misunderstanding, that turned into a freak out before I had two seconds to sort anything out. By then he'd called me every name in the book.



Once this is cleaned up and people know I didn't nark him out, them I'm really done with it and thanks again for helping out a bit in this regard. It's not a huge deal, but if I ever decide to post again under these names I'd prefer people not think I'm a nark. Accusing someone of being a nark was not something taken so lightly years ago. I guess with people hiding behind on-line names it's not a big deal to some, but it still matters to me. Maybe I shouldn't care, but honestly who wouldn't be at least annoyed by it?
 

18six50

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It's all good it was my bad. I came clean over there, and apologized.

I logged in here first this morning and saw the commotion involving Green. I've been tagging along at CP, and got things twisted.

Apologies @Greenthumbs256, you weren't labelled a snitch.

@18six50 are you a snitch? Told paypal?
I absolutely did not contact paypal. I didn't even ask him for money back, he offered it to me. Then he asked for MY paypal address, I gave it to him. Then He didn't see the first order so I gave him the date so he could look that up. Once he found both orders he then said he would give me the money back if I sent him the seeds. I immediately answered yes, he could have them back AND he could keep the money too if he was going to be such a so and so. At that point I was still under the impression that he was going to send me his address so I could send the seeds back. The next thing I know he's calling me a rat and I was blocked completely from chuckers. He's no longer offering my money back if I send the seeds back, so I'm stuck with them and I"m still not asking for my money back.

He told me in an e-mail that his paypal went down at about three thirty in the morning and he blamed me personally for it and called me a rat, but at that point I was still under the impression that I was going to get my money back from him or at least that I was sending back the seeds and hoping to get my money back. Either way, I didn't contact paypal and I already told him twice that I would NOT contact them.

It would be really nice if whoever contacted them would come forward but my guess is that they are just one of who knows how many people that got ticked off when he admitted he wasn't actually doing any testing on his crosses. There were probably a bunch of people like me who bought them based on that promise and were ticked.

All I know is that I did not contact them and am not going to, I didn't get any money back either. I paid as a gift so I don't even know if a person could file a dispute after they sent money that way. Maybe but I don't really think so.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Not sure how there could be an argument.. If someone gives you something on the condition you not give it out and you turn around and attempt to distribute the item for personal gain, you're a snake. I could see some grey area for giving a cut to family (close/close friend I suppose) member with good morals (who wont turn around and try to sell it.. see above snake comment) for safe keeping, but the person who tries to monetize off of the gift that was given with conditions is barely above a thief.

If you buy/trade a cut with no strings attached you should be able to do as you wish, but from my understanding this was not one of those situations.. part of showing appreciation for someone who looks out for you is to follow the conditions of the gift.. it's just basic respect/decency. it would be similar to not sending your part in a trade imo.
Spot on bro.

My word and pride are worth more than a few bucks and I wish others thought the same.

If you give your word you gotta stand by it. Cheers!
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Hard to say who would have snitch to paypal. Nowadays people will fuck over anyone for the smallest of misunderstandings, just look at IG.

People get the accounts reported for just growing certain people's shit.

The age of offense has been set upon us, lol.

I know Ive toned myself down a lot once I decided to send out testers and beans and whatnot. Last thing I want is someone throwing shade because Im a smart ass, lol.

I still get caught up in the shit here and there because it's hard to let a flake get the last word but gotta tell myself to look at the bigger picture. Look down the road not at the wall next to you.
 

Aussieaceae

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I absolutely did not contact paypal. I didn't even ask him for money back, he offered it to me. Then he asked for MY paypal address, I gave it to him. Then He didn't see the first order so I gave him the date so he could look that up. Once he found both orders he then said he would give me the money back if I sent him the seeds. I immediately answered yes, he could have them back AND he could keep the money too if he was going to be such a so and so. At that point I was still under the impression that he was going to send me his address so I could send the seeds back. The next thing I know he's calling me a rat and I was blocked completely from chuckers. He's no longer offering my money back if I send the seeds back, so I'm stuck with them and I"m still not asking for my money back.

He told me in an e-mail that his paypal went down at about three thirty in the morning and he blamed me personally for it and called me a rat, but at that point I was still under the impression that I was going to get my money back from him or at least that I was sending back the seeds and hoping to get my money back. Either way, I didn't contact paypal and I already told him twice that I would NOT contact them.

It would be really nice if whoever contacted them would come forward but my guess is that they are just one of who knows how many people that got ticked off when he admitted he wasn't actually doing any testing on his crosses. There were probably a bunch of people like me who bought them based on that promise and were ticked.

All I know is that I did not contact them and am not going to, I didn't get any money back either. I paid as a gift so I don't even know if a person could file a dispute after they sent money that way. Maybe but I don't really think so.
What was your screen name over there?

Tbh there's a screen name I'm now aware of, who definitely did cause trouble.

Just mention your screen name at CP, for the reason you state you'd like to clear your name.

Easy peasy :hug:
 

Werp

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It also could of been another breeder who ordered seeds just to cause him grief with paypal..
 
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