Have any of you DIY COB Growers finished a crop under 1000W DE HPS? - POLL

Have any of you DIY COB Growers have actually finished a crop under 1000W DE HPS?

  • Yes

    Votes: 32 29.1%
  • No

    Votes: 78 70.9%

  • Total voters
    110

Trippyness

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Actually if you really want to get down to it there buddy best i ever done with HID 2000 watts 76 plants 7 .3/4 pound lets do the math 3518 dry grams 2000 watts yup i do not have pics here but journal was on RIU back in 2012 i think :) but hey its all about the weed man since being investigated i lowered my plant count you know having like 2500 plants is life in jail those days are long gone so now do way smaller grows 12 plant 8 pound harvests good enough right last pic 2 week old clones that are in 5 gallon :)

PS that is 1.75
This is what im talking about. Light matters to a point. Plant numbers and veg and good genetics. Also how long you veg on that grow? great job.
 

BM9AGS

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This thread started out great. Then went to shit then went to more shit.

I looked on gromau5s YouTube but couldn't find a grow where he got 1.9gpw. Can anyone please link it?
 

BOBBY_G

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Did you do this? How did it work out?
not yet but i got most of the shit I havent had a lot of time to reinvent the wheel lately

i go back and forth as to what would be better - a T5 platform in long rows, or an array of mogul base sockets where you could switch out 2700 and 5000k A19 forward facing leds we talk about in the brightstik thread. and then use the $12 CFL versions of the reptisun. Those cfl bulbs are cheap and I think theyre like 13W but 8 or 12 of them in a 5x9 would be fine for our purposes. i know the fluorescent is not that efficient so trying to use leds instead where possible, even if its the 110-130 lm/watt cheapies thats got 20-30% on cfl and no mercury bullshit
 

BOBBY_G

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ive almost got my next setup ready but it will be a mix of cree and citi passive cobs with supplemental HQ blurple and UV as described above.
 

BOBBY_G

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since you asked, why yes i CAN hijack this thread

HQ blurple?
i have a bunch of 2015 CLW 170W fixtures (72 3W osrams driven at just over 2W ea) that are great, almost new and have 10 more good years in them

why dick around with adding 660 monos (well over $2/watt to DIY something decent) when these are mostly 630 660, pretty efficient, and on-hand plug and play?

my current scheme is 6 of those blurples in a tents with 4 cob bars (bars could be extruded if unit dissipation is low enough, or also could be passive at lower numbers of higher watt cobs.

so somehting like rows of
COB BAR | 2 x CLW | COB BAR | 2 x CLW | COB BAR | 2 x CLW | COB BAR
vs say 6 of the cob bars sans blurples

so shooting for the following criteria with and without blurples:
5x9 tent = 45SF
nominal 20 par W/SF in bloom with driver/heatsink headroom to go up to 25 parW/SF
tunable cob spectrum for veg and bloom

so the standard bar would be either citi 1212s or 1825s
something like 5 1825s at 60W ea (3x 2700k 90 cri + 2 x either 4000 or 5700k 90CRI) on individual dimmers
cob eff = ~60%

6 of those bars would be 1800W = ~1050 par W with room to dim

4 of those bars would be 1200W ( 700 par W) + 1000W of blurple (~450 PAR W) in between

if i did the 5 cobs per bar @ 60W ea as described above it would be passive pinfins, alternatively to get better coverage i might do 15 citi 1212s at 20W ea (same 60%ish eff.), so like 10 2700k and 5 of the 4000/5700K.

that last option would be straight up el cheapo glue em to bars with epoxy and solder, save considerably on holder and heatsink cost
 

BM9AGS

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If one were to do an all out side by side of HID and cxb 3590 what would make it legit?
A 5x5 worth HID and a 5x5 of led. Each at 1000watts and 5x5 or led at 600watts.

Could the plants be from seeds?
 

OneHitDone

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If one were to do an all out side by side of HID and cxb 3590 what would make it legit?
A 5x5 worth HID and a 5x5 of led. Each at 1000watts and 5x5 or led at 600watts.

Could the plants be from seeds?
What ever the math works out on paper to equal the photon count of the DE with the 3590's
I would sure hope it is less wattage or what is the point in led to begin with?
That is the case that needs to be made - Same or better yield or quality in the same given sq ft for less watts
 

BM9AGS

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What ever the math works out on paper to equal the photon count of the DE with the 3590's
I would sure hope it is less wattage or what is the point in led to begin with?
That is the case that needs to be made - Same or better yield or quality in the same given sq ft for less watts
Does anyone have a solid not inflated ppfd of hid lights?
 

BM9AGS

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I am still liking the look of the KB 120 graph
Yeah it's good.....great for price.
The difference between the bare cob and Stell HB is a lot tho. Stella HB was metered at 101% more. Wouldn't you think that in an overlapping multi cob setup you'd rather have the Stella HB? It's just more light!?! Right?
 
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