Harvest time ! First grow results.

Hi everyone, this is my first grow from some regular seeds given to me by a friend, not sure which strain, can you guess ? Leaves look like sativa with purple tints in buds. Its a closet grow started on 18th oct 2018. I vegged my plants for 2 months with a 50watt cfl and a cheap (cool white color) LED. Than i replaced it with 100Watt warm COB light, flipped the light cycle to 12/12. At the time of writing this my plant has finished its 9th week of flowering. Its giving me a very beautiful smell, like pure hashish. Fed them with chicken manure, bat guano and Worm poop. I had some issues with soil mix, air circulation and light intensity which contributed to small fluffy buds but thats ok i have learned a lot and i will surely fix these in second grow. Now i want to know if i should harvest it at the end of 9th week or should i complete 10 weeks incase its a sativa dominant and needs some more time ? I have checked the trichomes with a magnifying glass and an iPhone camera, most of them are milky and some clear but none of them are turning amber. Also i see some new pistols came out in last two weeks which i found strange. May be thats because i accidentally stressed it by giving it 13 hours of light in the week 8, or is it normal for new pistils to emerge in late flowering stage? i think i am gonna turn off the lights for 24 hours and chop it down anyway. What do you think about my first grow. Would love to hear your feedback guys. Much love. peace

Fantastic job! Be proud.

No idea on the strain, so many crosses these days.

You did a good job considering your lighting. I'm glad to hear you used organics too.

I might still wait a week if there's no amber.

Nice job

I am Not good enough to tell you whether to chop or not

Very nice plant tho

Couch_Lock said:

Fantastic job! Be proud.

No idea on the strain, so many crosses these days.

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Thanks man !!

diggs99 said:

Nice job

I am Not good enough to tell you whether to chop or not

Very nice plant tho

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Thanks bro, feeling excited.

3rd Monkey said:

You did a good job considering your lighting. I'm glad to hear you used organics too.

I might still wait a week if there's no amber.

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Yes bro, i think it would have been far better if i had 200 - 300 watts light from seed. But i am happy for my dream of growing came true. I will be improving in future. Organic was the only option because i dont have synthetic cannabis nutrients available where i live. May be i will wait for another week Looking forward to harvest. will surely update here.

the_ganja_farmer said:

Yes bro, i think it would have been far better if i had 200 - 300 watts light from seed. But i am happy for my dream of growing came true. I will be improving in future. Organic was the only option because i dont have synthetic cannabis nutrients available where i live. May be i will wait for another week Looking forward to harvest. will surely update here.

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I run organic teas and whatnot. You should check into composting or vermicomposting if you don't have nutes.

Overall though, solid work.

3rd Monkey said:

I run organic teas and whatnot. You should check into composting or vermicomposting if you don't have nutes.

Overall though, solid work.

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Thanks bro, i have already used my kitchen waste compost in this grow. Will make organic teas for second grow

I would strongly advise against magnifying trichs unless the plant grew stress free and pretty stella, it wont help matters in this case just confuse and maybe they just stay milky and never change or whatever.

I feel like it was probably more done or ready for harvest before that new growth appeared. Maybe more appears after that idk but this is far from perfect so shit happens.

You should make a call, either wait and pray she ripens up this new growth or cut your looses if it keeps going downhill.

Advice more to save not perfect i feel, sorry it isnt more positive

While it may not be perfect, it doesn't look bad at all for a first grow nice job it's still alive!!

Personally looking at the whole plant and the closer bud shots I really think this plant needs 2-2.5 more weeks. The bracts don't appear to be swollen at all, though it's tough to tell with out a good close up. Cannabis plants put on a noteable amount of weight the last 2ish weeks of growth. I've watched buds get heavier and bend over sturdy branches in a matter of 2-3 days even. It's also during this period when they typically do most of the maturing.

So while I know how hard it is to wait for your crop I would encourage it.

Kingrow1 said:

I would strongly advise against magnifying trichs unless the plant grew stress free and pretty stella, it wont help matters in this case just confuse and maybe they just stay milky and never change or whatever.

I feel like it was probably more done or ready for harvest before that new growth appeared. Maybe more appears after that idk but this is far from perfect so shit happens.

You should make a call, either wait and pray she ripens up this new growth or cut your looses if it keeps going downhill.

Advice more to save not perfect i feel, sorry it isnt more positive

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Hey kingrow1, this information was helpful, i was also thinking the same thing, what if they never go amber ? May be its growing new pistils from stress and not wanting to die ? Yeah i know its not perfect but who would expect perfection from first grow. So i think am going to cut her down at the end of 9th week.

the_ganja_farmer said:

Hey kingrow1, this information was helpful, i was also thinking the same thing, what if they never go amber ? May be its growing new pistils from stress and not wanting to die ? Yeah i know its not perfect but who would expect perfection from first grow. So i think am going to cut her down at the end of 9th week.

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Quite right, expect failure and youll always be happy.

This is neither failure or unhappiness as you got bud and learnt a lot

Thundercat said:

While it may not be perfect, it doesn't look bad at all for a first grow nice job it's still alive!!

Personally looking at the whole plant and the closer bud shots I really think this plant needs 2-2.5 more weeks. The bracts don't appear to be swollen at all, though it's tough to tell with out a good close up. Cannabis plants put on a noteable amount of weight the last 2ish weeks of growth. I've watched buds get heavier and bend over sturdy branches in a matter of 2-3 days even. It's also during this period when they typically do most of the maturing.

So while I know how hard it is to wait for your crop I would encourage it.

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thanks man, but as i stated its already been 9 weekks, if i wait 2 more weeks that would be 11 weeks of flowering ? Do you think it should take this long ? I dont have problem waiting a little more. But i am afraid it will never change the trichome colour.. i also see new pistils coming out lately which i think is not normal. So i guess i am a bit confused here

the_ganja_farmer said:

thanks man, but as i stated its already been 9 weekks, if i wait 2 more weeks that would be 11 weeks of flowering ? Do you think it should take this long ? I dont have problem waiting a little more. But i am afraid it will never change the trichome colour.. i also see new pistils coming out lately which i think is not normal. So i guess i am a bit confused here

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Yes it absolutely can take that long lol. Especially since you stressed the plant which can slow growth. Some strains take 15-20 weeks....

Also are you counting you flower time from when you flipped the lights or from when the plant began to actually show flowers?

FLOWERING begins when the plants start to make flowers!! It takes 7-14 days typically for the plants to TRANSITION to flowering from veg. Until you see flowers start the plant isn't flowering. So your plant most likely has only been flowering for 7-8 weeks.....

How many days or weeks a plant takes are totally irrelevant though because your environment and care will drastically impact how long it takes for a plant to fully mature.

Many people try to justify cutting plants early by saying "the stigma won't ever change" or "the trichomes won't ever change" but those things happening are rare if you grow properly.

Obviously it's your first grow you have a lot to learn, and I know I've cut many plants before the optimal time over the years. Early on I was because I didn't know any better, but even once I did sometimes you still choose to cut plants early because you know they have issues. Harvesting lots of plants at of different strains and ages is the best way to learn. I've been growing since 2005 and have harvested well over 1000 plants just from my personal grow.

2 day difference.

Middle pic - feb 14 Left pic- feb 16 Right pic - feb 17

you can see the transformation of what harvesting too soon can result in. if you look at the lower bud sites on both they are smaller then they are now. these plants will end week 6 since flip tomorrow. i plan to run them another 2-4 weeks.

pistils are slightly behind yours though i'd say about.. 40% is orange still a bunch of white ones. the grower guide on this states 6-8 weeks of flowering i don't consider flowering until after the stretch but when i log it i only count day 1 when i flip for easier tracking.

Thundercat said:

Yes it absolutely can take that long lol. Especially since you stressed the plant which can slow growth. Some strains take 15-20 weeks....

Also are you counting you flower time from when you flipped the lights or from when the plant began to actually show flowers?

FLOWERING begins when the plants start to make flowers!! It takes 7-14 days typically for the plants to TRANSITION to flowering from veg. Until you see flowers start the plant isn't flowering. So your plant most likely has only been flowering for 7-8 weeks.....

How many days or weeks a plant takes are totally irrelevant though because your environment and care will drastically impact how long it takes for a plant to fully mature.

Many people try to justify cutting plants early by saying "the stigma won't ever change" or "the trichomes won't ever change" but those things happening are rare if you grow properly.

Obviously it's your first grow you have a lot to learn, and I know I've cut many plants before the optimal time over the years. Early on I was because I didn't know any better, but even once I did sometimes you still choose to cut plants early because you know they have issues. Harvesting lots of plants at of different strains and ages is the best way to learn. I've been growing since 2005 and have harvested well over 1000 plants just from my personal grow.

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Yeah I was counting my flower time from when I flipped to 12/12. So I beleive you are correct. i should not count preflowering stage into flowering time. According to that, my plant is going to enter 8th week now so yeah i will wait and give it another week or two and see what happens. But all you have said has really made me understand things. Thanks alot bro

the_ganja_farmer said:

Yeah I was counting my flower time from when I flipped to 12/12. So I beleive you are correct. i should not count preflowering stage into flowering time. According to that, my plant is going to enter 8th week now so yeah i will wait and give it another week or two and see what happens. But all you have said has really made me understand things. Thanks alot bro

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Absolutely man, I'm glad to help. That's why I try to explain this to newer growers. Understanding the stages of growth better will help you grow better!

Lethidox said:

2 day difference.

Middle pic - feb 14 Left pic- feb 16 Right pic - feb 17

you can see the transformation of what harvesting too soon can result in. if you look at the lower bud sites on both they are smaller then they are now. these plants will end week 6 since flip tomorrow. i plan to run them another 2-4 weeks.

pistils are slightly behind yours though i'd say about.. 40% is orange still a bunch of white ones. the grower guide on this states 6-8 weeks of flowering i don't consider flowering until after the stretch but when i log it i only count day 1 when i flip for easier tracking

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Yup that difference is very significant. Well you guys have convinced me to give it 2 weeks more. Its better to wait than to loose.

Thundercat always coming through clutch...now you know where you're at just wait on em now! Congrats on almost a complete first grow! I just finished my first truly solo grow and everything is about to get jarred