Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

StinkBud

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just picked up a big light hood and with the german reflective inside. anyway it has 2 vents on it. one at each end. they are 6" . is it crutial to use a 6" fan and ducting or can I reduce that to a 4" fan and ducting? Im going to be using (2) 1000hps and a crap load of cfl, t8 , t5 and red/blue high power led. So the only real heat producers will be the 2 vented 1000hps. I only have 1 rt now but will be adding a 2nd and the same vented light hood. any sugestions
All of the fans the size you will need are at least 6". You need at least a 400 CFM fan for 2-1000W lights.

Stay with 6". You will be glad you did in the long run.
 

whysohigh

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DIRTHAWKER said:
Does any one know how long a pre mix of nutes can sit before its not good to use anymore?
ive been wondering the same thing, i keep it out of the light but i dont know how long untill you gotta just dump it and mix more, its def not cheap stuff.
 

StinkBud

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10 days into flush,, the buds are thicker then my first harvest. I picked up a radio shack scope and it looks just about ready...a little cloudy and a little clear..just a day or two and they should be just right.

PS. Does any one know how long a pre mix of nutes can sit before its not good to use anymore?
Looking good as usual Dirt! Can't believe it's close to harvest time again.

Don't worry about the nutes going bad. You will use them long before you have to worry about spoilage.

I mean think about it. It's a tea made from bird poop and a bunch of other rotten decomposed shit. What's it going to do, spoil? It can't get much more funky than it already is!
 

whysohigh

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I mean think about it. It's a tea made from bird poop and a bunch of other rotten decomposed shit. What's it going to do, spoil? It can't get much more funky than it already is!
haha, that was one thought i had, but i didnt know if mixing them would let anything kind of super shit fungus grow that would kill a whole crop. ever spill any on yourself? makes a great cologne.
 

andyman

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All of the fans the size you will need are at least 6". You need at least a 400 CFM fan for 2-1000W lights.

Stay with 6". You will be glad you did in the long run.
the main reason I wanted to use the 4" is cause I have a sweet spot to vent it to but it would require it to run underground to anther sweat spot I could vent. And if I were to dig a small trench to buiry it in about 10' long to were I would vent it. I figured it would be easy to use a 4" and powerfull fan but , like moving water threw pipes the larger area the easyer it is to move, less resistance now that I think about it. How much heat do you think 2- 1k hps would make in F. Im woried about flir or other heat detection devices that the fuzz would try and use. I was thinking of venting it through the roof but then It would look like a chimney. Now Im not sure were to vent.
I keep my mixed nutes in the fridge just in case.
thanks everyone
peacebongsmilie
 

andyman

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I can just see my wife going into the fridge and saying "umm, I'll have to try a glass of this".:spew:
I even used one of those things you get the good oj in and just cleanded it out and took the label off. I looks like some real dark beer or ale. Ive even looked at it twice in the middle of the night like hmm, whats that.
 

DubB83

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the main reason I wanted to use the 4" is cause I have a sweet spot to vent it to but it would require it to run underground to anther sweat spot I could vent. And if I were to dig a small trench to buiry it in about 10' long to were I would vent it. I figured it would be easy to use a 4" and powerfull fan but , like moving water threw pipes the larger area the easyer it is to move, less resistance now that I think about it. How much heat do you think 2- 1k hps would make in F. Im woried about flir or other heat detection devices that the fuzz would try and use. I was thinking of venting it through the roof but then It would look like a chimney. Now Im not sure were to vent.
I keep my mixed nutes in the fridge just in case.
thanks everyone
peacebongsmilie
You may even need a booster fan if your planning on venting quite a distance away from the lights, unless you put your fan at the end of your tube, but that will blow your stealth.

I suggest cooling the air if FLIR detection is what your trying to avoid, then you can vent anywhere. Also use heat shielding on your light hoods.

You can actively cool the air or passively cool it. Actively cooling is going to cost electricity and generate heat while passive cooling may not be 100% reliable or constant.
 

DubB83

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I even used one of those things you get the good oj in and just cleanded it out and took the label off. I looks like some real dark beer or ale. Ive even looked at it twice in the middle of the night like hmm, whats that.
:twisted:This brings about an evil idea... April 1st is coming up isn't it!:twisted:
 

BIGTIMEROOFERR

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The 4ft. 8-light HO fluorescent lights put out 40,000 lumens. You can use the red blulbs for flowering.

I think it is a great idea for adding light. Both of my systems against the wall don't receive enough light. It would be great to have the extra light in just the right place.

A lot of people dismiss fluorescent lights and rightly so. HO fls are a different story though. They are designed from the ground up for agricultural.

If you ask me nothing is better for clones and veg than blue fluorescent lights.

Having 4 lights overhead seams like the best way to light my room though. I'm going to add a couple more lights as soon as I get my power wired in.
thanks master stink
i already use ho flouresnts for my veg and flower
i was going to put 4 t5 red flouresnts on each side maybe at the base of the plants on the walls
 

SOG

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ok guys just ran the amp probe on my pump. I did it on my lil cheap harbor frieght one. 290gph Now it was hard to tell cause my digital meter moved so quick so I tried with my hold button and just doing it so many times. (glad I have a switch to turn it on and off) and the best I can tell is its drawing about 6amps for a split second. Way to fast for my meter to tell for sure. And less than 1 amp when running. Im going to see if I can borrow an anolog meter to see if this is right or not. Again this is way hard to tell cause the digital one flashes so quick. I know there is another tool I can use to help but am not sure what it is. If anyone can remember please let me know. peace
respect anydman!
When the Auto Hold feature is activated, the meter waits until a period of stability has been reached,
then it beeps and freezes (holds) a stable reading on the display for the user to see.
If the input changes to the point that it is no longer stable, then becomes stable again,
the meter will beep a second time and hold a new reading on the display.

these meters usually sample the current 4 times a second,
this should explain the first split second confusion

ill try to find a more scientific explanation for this behavior
 

SOG

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andyman your right on the money bro!

here is the explanation

Why a power surge when appliances turned on?
Code:
Creating any circuit will result in a flow of current, however, 
[B]if the load is an inductive load, like a transformer, motor, etc.,[/B] 
then a higher current will flow initially as the magnetic field 
around the windings must be created before any useful work 
can make use of said magnetic effect. 
This can be significant. 

A general rule of thumb for start up current 
is about 5 times operating current. 
Therefore, cables, fuses, etc, 
in fact the whole circuit needs to be designed to handle 
this higher level even though it may occur for a relatively short period.
ill be calling Sentinel on Monday to find out how their equip to handle start up surges with their PXM and MDT units
 

DoubleBubble

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repvip I was having some 60's but have now adjusted it into the 70's. Thanks. I wasn't sure since I have always cloned where the roots couldn't be seen. I wasn't sure if the big bulbs forming was normal or strain specific. I got Bubble Gum from Dutch Passion.

StinkBud I know it runs longer but it was my first imported strain. I grew a couple in the back yard in pots last year and it helped a whole lot with my chronic pain. I have just kept it because it is a good daytime smoke and I am waiting on my first batch of DP BlueBerry right now. Then I have their Fem BlueBerry coming up next. I also have DJ Short BlueBerry that I haven't even popped. The Bubble Gum will always be in dirt so the extra time is okay. BUT IF the BlueBerry Fem is as good as I am expecting it will be the staple at least til I order Train Wreck and some others. I need the best for pain possible both for day and night and am accepting ALL recommendations. I have been OUT of smoke for 2 months and the narcotics are killing me. I need my real medicine bongsmiliebut spent all of my money on a kickass grow setup.:mrgreen: I won't ever have to buy again and thanks to SB neither will anyone else I know that is suffering! :lol:
 

andyman

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anyone think I can run 1 -1000 hps in a hood that has 2 vent holes on it. without venting it rt now since its winter. Will this hurt the bulb? the area it would be going in is kinda drafty so its like 50F rt now. With the glass still on. I understand it will get hot but will it hurt anything. This would only be for tempory till I get the vent blower motor and venting. Thanks peace
 

Picasso345

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anyone think I can run 1 -1000 hps in a hood that has 2 vent holes on it. without venting it rt now since its winter. Will this hurt the bulb? the area it would be going in is kinda drafty so its like 50F rt now. With the glass still on. I understand it will get hot but will it hurt anything. This would only be for tempory till I get the vent blower motor and venting. Thanks peace
I'd be inclined to not worry about the bulb. Out in the real world, most all HPS applications I can think of are unvented. Streetlights, security floodlights, indoor and outdoor stadium lights, etc.

I think you might just have to try it and see what it does to the room temp and how far away from the plants you have to keep it so they don't overheat.
 

bubblerking

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anyone think I can run 1 -1000 hps in a hood that has 2 vent holes on it. without venting it rt now since its winter. Will this hurt the bulb? the area it would be going in is kinda drafty so its like 50F rt now. With the glass still on. I understand it will get hot but will it hurt anything. This would only be for tempory till I get the vent blower motor and venting. Thanks peace
the only way your gonna find out is to hook it up everbodys rooms are diff
 

andyman

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thanks yall. Im gona do it tonight for a test run. gotta do somethin my lil vegers are growing too quick. lol
wont be able to pull them threw the 2" holes in the lid before long. the roots look like there on steroids.
 

bubblerking

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thanks yall. Im gona do it tonight for a test run. gotta do somethin my lil vegers are growing too quick. lol
wont be able to pull them threw the 2" holes in the lid before long. the roots look like there on steroids.
Andy lol your gonna love the 1000s they kick ass peace bro
 

latinrascal

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anyone think I can run 1 -1000 hps in a hood that has 2 vent holes on it. without venting it rt now since its winter. Will this hurt the bulb? the area it would be going in is kinda drafty so its like 50F rt now. With the glass still on. I understand it will get hot but will it hurt anything. This would only be for tempory till I get the vent blower motor and venting. Thanks peace

Andy i think i may have some info you are looking for.I had an unvented 1000w hps in an area that is 4wx7hx7d. This brought my temps up to over 93 degrees f and my humidity to 0. I then bought a vented hood like what you described and what i did was just vented from outside thru the hood and then back outside. This brought my temps down to around 82f without a fan. I then went to harbor freight and bought their $80 8 inch ventalator fan along with a speed controler and i am good. I can set my speed on the vent up to 1500cfm so if i needed more i had the power already without changing anything else. Right now i have it set very low and am keeping my temps a solid 75 to 78 during lights on.

The only draw back i have as of right now is my humidity is between 50 to 65% because water in condensating on the aluminum duct work. I am working on a way around that now.

The vent fan is 8 inch so you will have to reduce it to 6 inches to make it work but it does a great job and it is actually pretty quiet, not stealth but quiet. hope this helps

Since you have the light and just waiting on the fan i would at least hook up the duct working to an outside the room source and vent it back outside the room. This should help with the temps.
 
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