Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

SOG said:

that's a ridicules amount of amp's, Watts are the product of volts times amps.
who ever made these test must have done something wrong
based on this logic, my 14amp constant AC
wont event fire up on a 15amp 110v circuit!

he will draw exactly 1.136amp MAX for all 5 pumps at any given time
the first formula from my previous post should to the trick for you Dirt
125w / 110v = 1.136amp

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Thanks for the help guys...and i await your test andyman.


I have a small problem that maybe the readers of this thread can help with.
I lost my clone unit menu, I always write a diagram of what plant is what on a piece of paper and pin it up on the wall. well come to find it fell on the floor and stuck to my shoe and i found it in the yard in the rain..lol
cant read it now. so now i have 24 clones 4 different strains and dont know which is which.. i wanted to start pumping the Cheese and the Redgrape beacuse they were so dank and yielded the best. the only way i can tell them apart is about 2-3 weeks in flower.
any ideas?

DIRTHAWKER said:

Thanks for the help guys...and i await your test andyman.


I have a small problem that maybe the readers of this thread can help with.
I lost my clone unit menu, I always write a diagram of what plant is what on a piece of paper and pin it up on the wall. well come to find it fell on the floor and stuck to my shoe and i found it in the yard in the rain..lol
cant read it now. so now i have 24 clones 4 different strains and dont know which is which.. i wanted to start pumping the Cheese and the Redgrape beacuse they were so dank and yielded the best. the only way i can tell them apart is about 2-3 weeks in flower.
any ideas?

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For the future, might I suggest using plant markers, they definitely have made life easier for me. I'm currently only running 4 different strains and can for the most part distinguish them apart based on the leaves and growth pattern, but that's not an exact science. Without DNA testing, you may just have to wait until they are flowering before re-labeling them.

Wish I could think of something better.

hey stinkbuddys
i have a 4x5 grow area i thought about putting 4 foot floresents on three of the walls with my 600w hps my third wall is plastic would this help get light where its not getting as much
just wanted to hear yalls thoughts on that idea

Hey everyone, until I can afford a t5 light I'm using this setup made of splitters and 13 watt CFL lights. It works out to a total of 104 watts and it seems to cover the veg unit very well. I bought a SeeMore buds book and it shows arrays like this. In addition to the CFL's there is a single 400 watt MH in the room hanging vertical. The other pic is my contactor for the pumps, all made out of recycled parts and I'm still needing a couple of covers. There are two extension cord ends, one for the timer and one for the wall battery backup power. Then there is a two gang receptacle to plug the pumps into. Any thoughts...

repvip said:

Oh I see... That's a good idea--I've been wanting to do that with mine to fix the root issue--makes it lots easier to pull out and place in flower unit... obviously!!

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I built a 15 place cloner from a 5 gal bucket. I used the eco plus pump stink uses, pvc and the red aero sprayers. It works awesome.
I Took a hole saw the size of the aero cloner neoprine discs to make the 15 holes in the bucket lid. I used a bit and as a tap to make some threads in the pvc pipe for the sparyers to screw into.

I simpley take clones and dip them in a small amount of rooting gel. I put NOTHING in the water. I run the pump 1 min on and 5 min off. Having the timmer WILL keep the water temp down.I have a small round flouro above it.
100% success

I had always done soil and clones were 90% succcess but with 100% more work(misting,humidity dome)
The bucket is ridiculously easy

I notice that many people think the sprayers are "Misters" There are "sprayers". They shoot out 2 streams of water. Those streams hit the top/side/roots/other streams of water and then basically splash all over. Think about what a garden hose dose if you spray it against a wall, now imagine many smaller sprays against a wall in a confined space like a bucket or a fence post.
A mister will actually atomise the water into a mist. Similar to the fans they have in long lines (six lags)that cool people off with a misting of water. Those are way to small not to clog up with root or nuiet
The aero grow (not cloners)systems for sale that I have seen do not have any sprayers on them. They have the pvc pipe that has holes in it that is mounted to the top left corner. As the pump turns on it sprays the water/nuiet solution against the inside of the fence post and then it spashes about

As a side note you can get a pump that is designed for a parts washer tub at meanards for @20 bucks. It is a great heavy duty pump for the price. You have to hard wire it for a plug but its easy

as always thanks Stink and the rest of the group here

token old guy said:

as always thanks Stink and the rest of the group here

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Welcome aboard TOG, take a seat, spark a doob, and join along!

token old guy said:

I built a 15 place cloner from a 5 gal bucket. I used the eco plus pump stink uses, pvc and the red aero sprayers. It works awesome.
I Took a hole saw the size of the aero cloner neoprine discs to make the 15 holes in the bucket lid. I used a bit and as a tap to make some threads in the pvc pipe for the sparyers to screw into.

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I'd love to see pics of the 5 gallon cloner; we are modification junkies 'round here.

GringoLoco said:

Welcome aboard TOG, take a seat, spark a doob, and join along!



I'd love to see pics of the 5 gallon cloner; we are modification junkies 'round here.

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About the CAP cycle timer does anyone want to take one for the team and open one up and see what type of timer CAP is using. If someone could get the name and model number off the internal parts of that timer I bet you could make the timer for a lot cheaper and just not have the fancy cover that says cap on it. The timer probably has model numbers and manufacturer names on it and then you can google it and find the parts for cheap. Anyway everything else is looking good everybody. Very awsome congrats on the hightimes article......

budman13 said:

About the CAP cycle timer does anyone want to take one for the team and open one up and see what type of timer CAP is using. If someone could get the name and model number off the internal parts of that timer I bet you could make the timer for a lot cheaper and just not have the fancy cover that says cap on it. The timer probably has model numbers and manufacturer names on it and then you can google it and find the parts for cheap. Anyway everything else is looking good everybody. Very awsome congrats on the hightimes article......

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Don't bother. SB already checked into making these timers--couldn't do it for any cheaper than the CAP one at the time. It's in the first 100 pages somewhere. Andyman is probably making one, but for >90% of us it is way over our heads. Use this one--it is cheap. The most complicated thing you should worry about is the andyman contactor/relay to protect the timer--and that is only if you are using more than... 3 pumps and don't desire to buy more CAP timers.

GringoLoco said:

Welcome aboard TOG, take a seat, spark a doob, and join along!



I'd love to see pics of the 5 gallon cloner; we are modification junkies 'round here.

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Dont mind if I do

I will snap a few pictures for you asap.
FYI I got the adjustable cap timer as well as a fan controller shiped for $100.84
I checked all over and that was the best deal. The hydro store was a lot more
so I had to go to the web

From this place
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/

dragonbud said:

Hey everyone, until I can afford a t5 light I'm using this setup made of splitters and 13 watt CFL lights. It works out to a total of 104 watts and it seems to cover the veg unit very well. I bought a SeeMore buds book and it shows arrays like this. In addition to the CFL's there is a single 400 watt MH in the room hanging vertical. The other pic is my contactor for the pumps, all made out of recycled parts and I'm still needing a couple of covers. There are two extension cord ends, one for the timer and one for the wall battery backup power. Then there is a two gang receptacle to plug the pumps into. Any thoughts...

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don't get mad it's kind of hard to tell from the pic, but you can put those CFL's extremely close to the plants--they will love it. Looks great. I have no other thoughts but good work!

BIGTIMEROOFERR said:

hey stinkbuddys
i have a 4x5 grow area i thought about putting 4 foot floresents on three of the walls with my 600w hps my third wall is plastic would this help get light where its not getting as much
just wanted to hear yalls thoughts on that idea

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Unless those are HO fluorescents... it won't help much. Regular fluorescents are no good for flowering. It may look nice but won't provide enough meaningful lumens... maybe try to trim the underneath so most of the growth is in the top layer...

SeeMee said:

I'm going to get the water from a commercial source... The cheaper choice is fizzy co2 enriched. The normal plain water is a bit more expensive.

Can I use the co2 enriched water in my hydro?

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Like carbonated water? CO2 enriched water would be a bad idea, regardless. You want oxygenated water! Roots need oxygen to grow. CO2 supplementation in the air is a good thing--obviously plants breathe it in through their leaves and use in their metabolism....

repvip said:

don't get mad it's kind of hard to tell from the pic, but you can put those CFL's extremely close to the plants--they will love it. Looks great. I have no other thoughts but good work!




Unless those are HO fluorescents... it won't help much. Regular fluorescents are no good for flowering. It may look nice but won't provide enough meaningful lumens... maybe try to trim the underneath so most of the growth is in the top layer...

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thanks rep
i was going to use ho's i just thuoght sense the room was only 4 foot wide they might work

BIGTIMEROOFERR said:

thanks rep
i was going to use ho's i just thuoght sense the room was only 4 foot wide they might work

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well for sure if they are High Output or T5 they will help! I'm not sure if they would help enough versus the cost though... If it were me I would stick with the 600HPS and maybe worry about plant distribution.. you know netting or something..

Lookin sweet repvip...what strains are those?

looking very sweet Repvip, please do tell the strains .. i am fixing tp place order on tude for blueberry, strawberry cough,a greenhouse indica 5pack indica mix all fem, cant wait . plus the freebies that i will get,been germin bag seed , practice i guess.have some seedling a week along now . I do love the thread. Peace to evryone, oh stink, that dude on e bay what a douche.

repvip said:

Don't bother. SB already checked into making these timers--couldn't do it for any cheaper than the CAP one at the time. It's in the first 100 pages somewhere. Andyman is probably making one, but for >90% of us it is way over our heads. Use this one--it is cheap. The most complicated thing you should worry about is the andyman contactor/relay to protect the timer--and that is only if you are using more than... 3 pumps and don't desire to buy more CAP timers.

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Damn your system is looking good are following stinkbuds exactly same nute schedule and everything what strain is that..

I appreciate you asking HT if they can sell us signed copies. Either way I will have a copy for sure. I also want you to know that I am a chronic pain patient and this thread has changed my life for the better and is going to be helping plenty of others as well.

BTW Have you ever grown/cloned Bubble Gum? Or has anyone else? Todat us 3 weeks in the cloner and they have huge bulbs but no roots or tiny ones. They are all swollen and white bumpy but still no roots. The thing is I rooted 16 in RR in the same amount of time. Could it be lower temps. When I did the others it was much warmer in the dome. I am just anxious to put Blue Berry Fem clones in. I have Blue Berry at 4 weeks and Bubble Gum at 1 week but need my cloner emptied. Any help appreciated. I forget what the longest time to see roots was. That was way earlier in the thread/book.

sorry guys, but i have another stupid newbie question. i decided to buy an extra timer that repvip suggested because it was so inexpensive, and on that same site they have netpots, so i thought i would buy the rest of the pots that i need since they are so light and won't raise the shipping costs. my question is are all 2" netpots essentially the same? i realize 2" is 2"...but these just look different. that would really suck since i already did the holes in the roughneck lid for the veg system. anyway...here is the link, and thanks for your patience with me...i can't wait to put up my first grow journal!!

http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/botanicare-inch-heavy-duty-net-pot-10count-p-581.html

SoccerMomZoey said:

sorry guys, but i have another stupid newbie question. i decided to buy an extra timer that repvip suggested because it was so inexpensive, and on that same site they have netpots, so i thought i would buy the rest of the pots that i need since they are so light and won't raise the shipping costs. my question is are all 2" netpots essentially the same? i realize 2" is 2"...but these just look different. that would really suck since i already did the holes in the roughneck lid for the veg system. anyway...here is the link, and thanks for your patience with me...i can't wait to put up my first grow journal!!

http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/botanicare-inch-heavy-duty-net-pot-10count-p-581.html

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yes, in fact the net pots from that site are higher quality. Get the neoprene's from that site at the same time--the are the thicker foam that work WAY better http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/ezclone-neoprene-inserts-p-2389.html sorry to promote a website.. it would be preferred to get from a local hydro store if possible...

Bud pics above are Blue Cheese (Big Buddha) but I would recommend Barney's Farm over Big Buddha for better stability. You get more variety from Big Buddha... their cross is blueberry x skunk#1 and I definitely have some that are leaning skunky and taking forfuckingever. On the other hand I have some that were done at 6 weeks--skinny narrow and potent! I finally weeded out the blue cheese losers.

You know... experience goes a LONG way. Everything I have learned I have done by trial and error. Mostly error. When I recommend something.. it fucking kicks ass is the only reason Pic your strains carefully, get good genetics (Barney's Farm, Dutch Passion for example) try to get strains that will finish at the same time. If you are shooting for the 9 week rotation, you will find a mix of indica/sativa, more towards indica, will be perfect. ps - if you get Power Skunk (G13 Labs) free--just throw it out the window when you are driving--I have never been as disappointed in a strain before. Yeah... they are free... whatever... but I swear bag seeds are better than that shit.

I'm currently selecting strains. I'm going through Durban Poison, Blue Cheese, Blueberry, White Berry, G13 haze, White Widow. So far.. based on growth.. 100% keepers will be: White Berry, Blue Cheese, Durban Poison. Haven't decided on the rest, but they appear to be slow. Anything >9weeks is out for me. I don't think Cheese can by hyped up enough--a real crowd pleaser. Kicking myself I don't have it. Would go with Cheese over Blue Cheese next time... if I had to choose. Also have heard good things on strawberry cough, but never tried so can't really say. Bubble Gum is clone only I believe. Can't get clones where I live!

Following StinkBud's nutrient regimen for the most part--gonna start tweaking the Sweet ratio soon. Tap water hear is 300ppm lately--I just skip out on cal-mag+ (ok maybe 1ml per rez!). I have an idea of adding different amounts of sweet based on stage.. or rez change.

DoubleBubble said:

I appreciate you asking HT if they can sell us signed copies. Either way I will have a copy for sure. I also want you to know that I am a chronic pain patient and this thread has changed my life for the better and is going to be helping plenty of others as well.

BTW Have you ever grown/cloned Bubble Gum? Or has anyone else? Todat us 3 weeks in the cloner and they have huge bulbs but no roots or tiny ones. They are all swollen and white bumpy but still no roots. The thing is I rooted 16 in RR in the same amount of time. Could it be lower temps. When I did the others it was much warmer in the dome. I am just anxious to put Blue Berry Fem clones in. I have Blue Berry at 4 weeks and Bubble Gum at 1 week but need my cloner emptied. Any help appreciated. I forget what the longest time to see roots was. That was way earlier in the thread/book.

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Wow I am talking lots today! I have experience with this too--thought I would chime in. It most definitely can be a temperature issue!!!! It probably is. What's the ambient temp?

My cloners ambient air temp was around 65, meaning colder rez, and was taking FOREVER to root. I closed the cabinet, ambient temp increased to 80, two days later a bunch of clones sprouted roots. 80 is probably too high, but you get the idea. Try it--raise the ambient air temp or rez temp a few degrees...