Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

latinrascal · Jan 13, 2009

andyman said:
the thing with cpvc is there are more fittings avalable for it. I use to work for a plumbing company and we did big condo's and homes with cpvc and pex. the cpvc has an attachment that you can screw a garden house onto without brass or other fittings. and its easyer to work with. dont need to pre clean it to glue it. smaller diameter for 1/2 " so it might have less volume for running pumps. Im going to try it on a cloner Im making for a friend

Hey handy just an FYI the 1/2 inch cpvc has the same inside diameter as the 1/2 pvc so the pressure will be the same.

kaydub · Jan 13, 2009

andyman said:
My bubble bags are mesh all the way up the sides too. not just the bottom.
got them off this guy.
Item number: 190274996515
he sells them on ebay or directly though his email. [email protected]
THIS WAY THE WATER COMES OUT QUICK

HERE IS THAT ON EBAY
http://cgi.ebay.com/bubble-bags-herbal-resin-extractor-free-200mic-bag_W0QQitemZ190274996515QQihZ009QQcategoryZ43555QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I got these bags - they are pretty good and reasonably priced, but the first time I used them they got sucked into the mixer paddles. The obvious solution is to mix the soup in a different bucket, and then pour it into the bucket with the bags - no big deal, but an extra step and an extra bucket.

If I had it to do over I would pay a little more for the buckets with mesh only on the bottom, but agian, the justrite bags are relatively inexpensive and work fine.

andyman · Jan 13, 2009

latinrascal said:
Hey handy just an FYI the 1/2 inch cpvc has the same inside diameter as the 1/2 pvc so the pressure will be the same.

the 1/2 pvc has the same as the 3/4 cpvc. I have it here in front of me.
I was a plumber for 2 years with a large company. we just only used cpvc, pex, and copper. cpvc holds up better in the cold too.

ps just checked the inside dia. of the cpvc 1/2" is allmost exactly that 1/2" just a hair smaller
the pvc inside dia. is allmost 5/8" inside dia.
the 3/4 cpvc and the 1/2 pvc are allmost the same size

andyman · Jan 13, 2009

kaydub said:
I got these bags - they are pretty good and reasonably priced, but the first time I used them they got sucked into the mixer paddles. The obvious solution is to mix the soup in a different bucket, and then pour it into the bucket with the bags - no big deal, but an extra step and an extra bucket.

If I had it to do over I would pay a little more for the buckets with mesh only on the bottom, but agian, the justrite bags are relatively inexpensive and work fine.

I did the same thing. I found out when you mix it all in a bucket with a drill and a wooden spoon or paint stir. it works way better in another bucket before putting it in the work bag. I did it the first 7-8 times in the work bag. when I did it the last time in a bucket first I got way better grade bubble. the first 7-8 were ok but didnt bubble as much. The last batch was/is great. sets the power lung friends down were they stand and they dont usually ask for another. lol

latinrascal · Jan 13, 2009

Then i apoligize for giving mis-information. I never actually measured but you would think 1/2 inch is 1/2!!!!! Would this be compared to the Standard vs metric?

andyman · Jan 13, 2009

latinrascal said:
Then i apoligize for giving mis-information. I never actually measured but you would think 1/2 inch is 1/2!!!!! Would this be compared to the Standard vs metric?

you would think. :weed:

Anyway its probly cause its more expensive,

that might be why people arnt using it.

supdro · Jan 13, 2009

dirth...question to you. while using tap did you let the water sit out over night or just throw it in the res?? I ask because your plants look insane !!!

funtogrow · Jan 13, 2009

LionsRoor said:
Just a clarification on the oscillating fans - I leave them on all the time - they actually help to stir up the CO2 as it is heavier than air and wants to float to the bottom... try placing an oscillating fan on the floor aimed up to mix it up even more! Now your exhaust fan is another story... you want to be sure to turn off your CO2 when you exhaust... good news is you don't have to exhaust as often with CO2 (AC is pretty much mandatory). With a CO2 gen, some people let it run all the time as the cost of generated CO2 is relatively cheap. Have you guys seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SDorIv81CA

I have one on the way for a new room... I wanted to use one a few months back - but I did not want one sight unseen. My local shop kept intending to get one in for me to check out, but that did not happen... I ordered one last week - I hope I don't regret it! The same company makes some cool 6" inline water cooled elements for your AC reflectors; do away with ducting AND add cooling??? ...their stuff seems almost too good to be true - I hope that isn't the case!

Look ma - I got the DirtHawker version! No glue, no cutting!

that shit is cool :weed:

BigBud66 · Jan 13, 2009

your grow looks sweet dirthawker, and you gouys are right. We all are educating ourselves in Stink University. Props to everyone i do enjoy the thread. Peace

repvip · Jan 13, 2009

LionsRoor said:
Hey Dirt - that is choice - I too utilized all threaded PVC nipples for my build - the schedule 80 is nice - stiffer, with a thinner inner diameter (rated at 210psi vs schedule 40 rated at half that)... but the gray color just looks so choice with the red sprayers!

Just a clarification on the oscillating fans - I leave them on all the time - they actually help to stir up the CO2 as it is heavier than air and wants to float to the bottom... try placing an oscillating fan on the floor aimed up to mix it up even more! Now your exhaust fan is another story... you want to be sure to turn off your CO2 when you exhaust... good news is you don't have to exhaust as often with CO2 (AC is pretty much mandatory). With a CO2 gen, some people let it run all the time as the cost of generated CO2 is relatively cheap. Have you guys seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SDorIv81CA

I have one on the way for a new room... I wanted to use one a few months back - but I did not want one sight unseen. My local shop kept intending to get one in for me to check out, but that did not happen... I ordered one last week - I hope I don't regret it! The same company makes some cool 6" inline water cooled elements for your AC reflectors; do away with ducting AND add cooling??? ...their stuff seems almost too good to be true - I hope that isn't the case!

Look ma - I got the DirtHawker version! No glue, no cutting!

LionsRoor that CO2 generator is sick! Do you have a link to a purchase you could send me? Damn... makes the GEN-1 look completely outdated. But shit man... how much more expensive equipment am I gonna have to get!

DIRTHAWKER · Jan 13, 2009

supdro said:
dirth...question to you. while using tap did you let the water sit out over night or just throw it in the res?? I ask because your plants look insane !!!

Thanks dude... yea i just used tapwater straight outta the hose.. it was when i started my flush i found out my tap water was almost 600ppm... :evil:

rookie mistake!! :confused:

but hey thanks for the compliments... i knew there was gonna be hiccups,, and little problems to deal with before i got everything dialed in,,,,just cant wait to see how it turns out when i add co2, and filterd water.

SOG · Jan 13, 2009

DIRTHAWKER said:
On the subject of threaded pvc.. i used all threaded 1/2 pvc for my pump and sprayer system..actually i made them right in the isle at home depot..lol they come in grey and different sizes.

LionsRoor said:
Hey Dirt - that is choice - I too utilized all threaded PVC nipples for my build

Look ma - I got the DirtHawker version! No glue, no cutting!

nice work guys,
pretty much self explanatory
any other tips/improvements to Master Stink original design

DragonPhoenix · Jan 13, 2009

DIRTHAWKER said:
Thanks bro for the analysis.

I have been contimplating this for some time now.
I figured it was a combination of a few things such as what you said "shaded lower branches" lack of co2, my nutrient regiment has been way low beacuse i didnt account for such a high tap ppm.etc. I always look at stinks and others plants and wondered how my plants that are thriving and growing like crazy didt have the fat pronounced buds like i thought they should.

If you look at stinks buds in the first pic you see how they are just bursting!! look at the main cola on my ak47 in the 2nd pic. This main cola is about 16 inches from the light, i thought it would be huge,, but its not.
Then i looked more closely and saw that there was 3-4 other shoots from the same plant with colas, some even bigger then the main one. This is the case with my whole garden. This is textbook 101. Stinks buds in that first pic are so big beacuse they are the only colas or close to it. The 3rd pic is the cheese..it is the biggest cola. I only have one cheese in that unit and there is 9 smaller colas from that one plant. Cheese is turning out to be the biggest yielder out of the 4 strains.

The question really comes down to would the yield be bigger if i started to flower the plants smaller and trimmed the lower branches? or just let the beast grow?

I will find out soon enough.

Hey Dirt -

I've actually been spending quite a bit of time every day trimming out branches and leaves that are at the bottom of the plant which either do not get enough light due to the canopy being thick. I do not remove any thick branches which have made their way to the light and started to develop a sizeable flower.

I find trimming all the under foliage very calming for some reason...call me nuts but I love it!

I'll come back with some pics soon.

Cheers,
DP

Picasso345 · Jan 13, 2009

repvip said:
LionsRoor that CO2 generator is sick! Do you have a link to a purchase you could send me? Damn... makes the GEN-1 look completely outdated. But shit man... how much more expensive equipment am I gonna have to get!

Wow. Here is a link...looks like they only sell to retailers though. $399.00. If that thing performs anything like that video, they are going to sell a pile of those things.

http://www.hydrofarm.com/pb_detail.php?itemid=8816

http://www.hydrofarm.com/wheretobuy.php

LionsRoor · Jan 13, 2009

andyman said:
Very cool.
hows come I never see people use cpvc on here. I prefer it to pvc?

CPVC should not be used - it is known to leach toxic chemicals! I made some things with CPVC - I love it - smaller, great fittings - but I then read - in more than one spot - that it should not be used in these applications as it leaches toxic chemicals over time...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20080503073526AAqTXhs

This is one such post - not that it means shit! But - I have heard that reapeatedly - and you don't see any units made with the stuff! Who knows...

LionsRoor · Jan 13, 2009

repvip said:
LionsRoor that CO2 generator is sick! Do you have a link to a purchase you could send me? Damn... makes the GEN-1 look completely outdated. But shit man... how much more expensive equipment am I gonna have to get!

Yo Rep - they are actually cheaper! ($340) ...but there is a catch... you need to have a pump with 10 foot + head pressure (read Earl's post if you don't know what I'm talking about ha ha), and either a passive 65+ gallon resi or a smaller 10+ gallon resi with a chiller... You can use your RO waste water as the resi... I am going to use a 90 gallon vertical ChemTank resi - passive cooling - no ice chiller - AC in the room.

http://www.gchydro.com/HydroGEN+Water-Cooled+CO2+Generator.html

Damn! They just went up in price - literally overnight - they were $340 yesterday (glad I got my order in before!) - 375 today! Search the internet - the suggested MSRP is 349

DIRTHAWKER · Jan 13, 2009

DragonPhoenix said:
Hey Dirt -

I've actually been spending quite a bit of time every day trimming out branches and leaves that are at the bottom of the plant which either do not get enough light due to the canopy being thick. I do not remove any thick branches which have made their way to the light and started to develop a sizeable flower.

I find trimming all the under foliage very calming for some reason...call me nuts but I love it!

I'll come back with some pics soon.

Cheers,
DP

When you trim do you just use pruners and clip..or is there a certain way your supposed to do it? Do you clean the shears with alcohol and cut near the main stalk at a 45 degree angle? or just pluck? whats the scoop?

thanks

LionsRoor · Jan 13, 2009

DIRTHAWKER said:
When you trim do you just use pruners and clip..or is there a certain way your supposed to do it? Do you clean the shears with alcohol and cut near the main stalk at a 45 degree angle? or just pluck? whats the scoop?

thanks

It's not like taking cuts - just snip em between your thumbnail and index finger... WRONG - you are right Dirt - pruning should be done with sterilized shears, and 45 degree cuts! My bad - I've never done this - but just learned something from my friend Jorge!

DIRTHAWKER · Jan 13, 2009

LionsRoor said:
It's not like taking cuts - just snip em between your thumbnail and index finger...

These babies are pretty thick.. if i did that i would have to twist them up pretty good to get them to break..
well you answered my question.. i guess i will just clip them with the sterilized shears at the base..... right?

andyman · Jan 13, 2009

LionsRoor said:
CPVC should not be used - it is known to leach toxic chemicals! I made some things with CPVC - I love it - smaller, great fittings - but I then read - in more than one spot - that it should not be used in these applications as it leaches toxic chemicals over time...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20080503073526AAqTXhs

This is one such post - not that it means shit! But - I have heard that reapeatedly - and you don't see any units made with the stuff! Who knows...

if thats the case then all those condo's and high roller homes I put cpvc in as there water line (drinking water) are in big trouble. I really doubt that they would allow companys to make water pipes that leach toxic. but they sell cigs and they kill millions so who knows. :confused:

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