Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

I have read every post of this thread and built the cloner which currently has 24 bubble gum clones in it. They are on day 18 and have bulbs with small tips beginnin to show. I am just wondering how much longer until they are coming out of the net pots? Also, I managed to get 15 of 16 clones in rapid rooters and they just went into the flower room where I already have 8 Blueberry girls on week 3. Now I am still in dirt after cloning just for the time being until I can get the other units built and get my light mover (garage door opener I posted abouy a while back when I first caught up with this marathon post) working. My other question is for those including StinkBud who have grown Blueberry in dirt. How much growth can one expect during flowering and has anyone noticed that some split naturally without topping and seem thicker than crap? I would like to have single colas but remember reading somewhere that Blueberry does better when trimmed a certain way or something. All advice appreciated. Oh and BTW I have Blueberry feminized mothers for the next batch of clones as well as some California Orange Bud waiting for presexing and one unknown type I named Happy Daze because it cost 200 a 1/4 but was unreal and I found one seed which is nice healthy and bushy. I am just waiting for presexing on it as well and praying for it to be female. If not I may have to try and use the genetics in a cross or two and try to stabilize it over time. It was the best I have had to date. I wished I knew the real name. Anyways thanks in advance for answering my 2 ?'s.

grodrowithme said:

what 2 DIFFERENT SYSTEMS are you talking about stinks design i suppose and what else

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well with stinks his units

and earls 4" pvc grow with some big monsters lol,

read back man! not to hard bud

276 pages and i got in on page 9

Kstar said:

First of all, I would like to thank all of you, for sharing your knowledge and experiences- very insightful!! Stink is da super skunk, great knowledge, humor and a very BIG heart!

I have questions on the veg and cloner setup.

I have 2-18 gal : 24”x16”x16.5 RM roughneck
and a 2-10 gal: 24”x16”x9” gal.

The 2-10gal are great because they stack-up evenly with the one 18gal and have same lids.

I want to cut down on the height of the Veg to: 2-10gal (9”+9”) is this ok?
Enough room for roots. Can this be done with the cloner one 10gal unit?
What the correct means?

Thanks guys ya'll rock

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You could use two of the 10 gallon containers for your veg unit and keep it even shorter.

Don't worry about the roots. The plants are only there for 3 weeks.

repvip said:

You guys are nuts!

Center unit has been flowering 6 weeks now! Been planning on an 8 week schedule, which means my flush should start soon. However, I'm going to wait till week 7 to start the flush... they don't look near close enough to me!

Also, here's a new flower unit that's been going for about a week. You can see the size of clones I put in--though they have already doubled in size. The ends are mothers that have been topped--the inners are clones non-topped.

You can't see the flower unit on the right, but its been 3 weeks with clones straight to flower for the inners. The outside plants were topped mothers, and are much bigger. Anyway, since you can't see, you can take my word they are the perfect size! About 1.5 feet below the light. Not expecting more than a foot additional growth now.

Now just imagine each unit with similar height plants... will be a beatiful sight.

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Looking good!!!! I love the pictures bro!

It's amazing how fast everything is growing.

What strain is that?

StinkBud said:

Looking good!!!! I love the pictures bro!

It's amazing how fast everything is growing.

What strain is that?

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Blue Cheese! It is nice. I miss the regular Cheese! DirtHawker is making me jealous It really was the best bud I've ever had... so far.

I'm trying to find quick turn-a-round strains. Anything that can finish in 8 weeks. So far, with the new strains I have going, White Berry seems to be the fastest, followed by Durban Poison, Blueberry, White Widow and G13 the slowest.

So.. the bad part--white berry takes forever to clone! Ironic, eh?

DoubleBubble said:

I have read every post of this thread and built the cloner which currently has 24 bubble gum clones in it. They are on day 18 and have bulbs with small tips beginnin to show. I am just wondering how much longer until they are coming out of the net pots?

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The first thing you will see is little white dots on the stems. Eventually these will become roots.

As soon as you start to see roots you can put the plants into the veg unit.

Once you have a perpetual harvest going you have to wait for space to open up in your veg unit. Then you can transfer the cuttings into veg.

I would like to have single colas but remember reading somewhere that Blueberry does better when trimmed a certain way or something.

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My Blueberry has a bunch of colas vs. a single big one. The stems are also kind of woody. You don't have to top it to get a bunch of branches.

I have a Blueberry in flower right now that has ended up with 5 huge colas. The biggest yet. Blueberry really does well with a lot of veg time.

Good luck Bro!

Howdy! I spent all my allotted RIU time for the last four days reading this entire thread.

First, StinkBud, it is a rare treat on the Internet to find someone with something to give, who does it with such humility and honor. I commend you on you ability to deal with negative situations with such grace.

Now for the bad news, the portable ac you are looking at won't turn itself back on after a power failure. Also, I've seen six or so returned to my local shop for the powered louvers breaking. This is an area where money should be invested wisely. And designing an ac for indoor gardening which can't be run from an external thermostat isn't too wise.

I'm off today to get parts for the cloner as my current coco grow is nearing it's end. I have lots of shoots ready to cut and plan on adding systems every 24 days as my strains take 68-72 days to finish. I allready have a sealed 8x8x8 and an attached 4x5x8 for veg, all wired up with 3 12 guage wire, 20 amp circuits.I have co2 controlled by a Titan, and a 600, a 400, and a 250. I'm going to use the 600 with hps and the 400 with mh. The 250 has a Hortilux blue in it for the veg area which also has a couple hundred watts of t5ho. I'll use half the 8x8x8 to give me room to work.

I'm gonna modify your design a bit to hopefully avoid the water noise. I kind of need stealth. Ever heard of uniseals? Kind of a by grommet for sealing common PVC sizes into a flat sheet. I'll use these for all pipes gong in to the cap on the fence to allow for a drain manifold. Then I can run a hose into the resivoir and controlled the drains output better. I'll also use unions to allow for easy dissassembly. I don't do CAD so you'll have to wait for pics if you don't grasp the idea.

hey STINK i started w/seeds im planning on taking the two bottom branchs from each for clones how long should the branches be
thanks for any help

Thanks Stink Bud for everything especially the Blueberry and rooting info. They have the white spots and have bulbed out and beginning to get short shoots but not yet hanging roots. I am not running the whole system YET so they will have to go into dirt but I WILL be converting over. I have been injured and it has taken a long time to put together everything for the first grow. I have a 4'X4' cloning and veg chamber and 4'x12' flower with a/c to both rooms and have an air cooled 1000HPS that is going to be on a mover, made from a garage door opener above the ceiling hooked to a skateboard on tracks, which is almost completed. I maintain 75 degrees and 50% humidity. The 8 Blueberry have been in for 21 days and have 15 Bubble gum just put in from clones taken from a mom I have maintained since Oct. Then the 24 in the cloner are Bubble gum. The next batch will be Feminized Blueberry as soon as those roots are ready and I can clear out the cloner. My biggest problem, with running your system, is I only have 4 feet of clearance so I really will have to go straigt from clone to flower and probably train them horizontally as well. In dirt it is fine if I start them under 6". The Blueberry is 22" at 3 weeks started at 6"-8". The Bubble gum is about 3"-4" but I know it is going to stretch because it is mostly sativa. I hope to add another 1000 HPS onto the mover and use your system but I will have to put the reservoir below the floor but that won't be a problem. It is impossible to explain because it is "super stealthy" but will work out great. Like I said, it will only be 4 feet from the neo collar to the light but air cooled and moving should be able to get very close or even bump them in the very end. You are the best Stink Bud! I have the concept rock solid it is only a matter of time and money at this point and that will all change in the next 6 weeks. I would like to post pics but this is all just in my dreams. I would actually NEVER take a chance like that since the Feds are still Ass Holes!

Landragon said:

Howdy! I spent all my allotted RIU time for the last four days reading this entire thread.

First, StinkBud, it is a rare treat on the Internet to find someone with something to give, who does it with such humility and honor. I commend you on you ability to deal with negative situations with such grace.

Now for the bad news, the portable ac you are looking at won't turn itself back on after a power failure. Also, I've seen six or so returned to my local shop for the powered louvers breaking. This is an area where money should be invested wisely. And designing an ac for indoor gardening which can't be run from an external thermostat isn't too wise.

I'm off today to get parts for the cloner as my current coco grow is nearing it's end. I have lots of shoots ready to cut and plan on adding systems every 24 days as my strains take 68-72 days to finish. I allready have a sealed 8x8x8 and an attached 4x5x8 for veg, all wired up with 3 12 guage wire, 20 amp circuits.I have co2 controlled by a Titan, and a 600, a 400, and a 250. I'm going to use the 600 with hps and the 400 with mh. The 250 has a Hortilux blue in it for the veg area which also has a couple hundred watts of t5ho. I'll use half the 8x8x8 to give me room to work.

I'm gonna modify your design a bit to hopefully avoid the water noise. I kind of need stealth. Ever heard of uniseals? Kind of a by grommet for sealing common PVC sizes into a flat sheet. I'll use these for all pipes gong in to the cap on the fence to allow for a drain manifold. Then I can run a hose into the resivoir and controlled the drains output better. I'll also use unions to allow for easy dissassembly. I don't do CAD so you'll have to wait for pics if you don't grasp the idea.

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I actually have a wall A/C unit I'm going to install soon.

That's good to know about the power issue though.

That's the way my humidifier and portable A/C unit is. It sucks. I can't use my controller with them.

My wall A/C will go on after a power loss though. I just have to cut a hole in my house!

Good luck on your grow bro!

BIGTIMEROOFERR said:

hey STINK i started w/seeds im planning on taking the two bottom branchs from each for clones how long should the branches be
thanks for any help

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2-4 inches is a good place to start.

Good luck!

StinkBud said:

I actually have a wall A/C unit I'm going to install soon.

That's good to know about the power issue though.

That's the way my humidifier and portable A/C unit is. It sucks. I can't use my controller with them.

My wall A/C will go on after a power loss though. I just have to cut a hole in my house!

Good luck on your grow bro!

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The upper range sears and ge dehumidifiers have auto restart and drain connections. On icmag there's very detailed instrunctions on making any window unit into a portable. You can run it two hose style like that portable.

I built the cloner today. Took less than 20 minutes of assembly time. If i stuck my finger in every basket, it was immediately soaked but I never felt the water hitting me. Sweet. I used rubbermaids new limited edition ganja green colored totes I picked up at target. When I was there, two dreads were grabbing these up while exchanging goody grins. At the hydro store two thugs came in buying up neoprene collars and 2" net-pots. It's a small world.

Its a sweet setup, if you can follow directions you can grow with stinks system! I wake up amazed everyday with what I have in my spare bedroom, best house guest you could ever wish for!

Landragon said:

The upper range sears and ge dehumidifiers have auto restart and drain connections. On icmag there's very detailed instrunctions on making any window unit into a portable. You can run it two hose style like that portable.

I built the cloner today. Took less than 20 minutes of assembly time. If i stuck my finger in every basket, it was immediately soaked but I never felt the water hitting me. Sweet. I used rubbermaids new limited edition ganja green colored totes I picked up at target. When I was there, two dreads were grabbing these up while exchanging goody grins. At the hydro store two thugs came in buying up neoprene collars and 2" net-pots. It's a small world.

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andyman!

Told ya I treat my ladies like ODB! Slice and dice

Check out this blueberry--it grows leaves in three's--not pairs. At least, until it matures anyway.

I have to try pretty hard to actually kill a plant.

thanks stink

hey stink, i am getting ready to switch from the crap nutes ive been using to your formula, i currently use hygrozyme and have a lot left. i personally love the stuff, i know it says you can basically add it to whatever you want but i just wanted to get your input on it, have you ever used it? it saved me big time. one more question, i have this strain called wappa from sensible seeds, they are about 8 or 9 inches tall and they say that they produce a gi-normus cola, would topping get me 2 monster colas, or 2 colas that add up to the original one? before this gets too long i want to tell you thanks for what your doin, last summer i was on my motorcycle and got ran over by a truck, now im parylized from the waist down. sometimes i cant sleep or eat, pain meds dont work when my back starts killin me. but guess what solves all that? you got it, thanks again.

Whysohigh- That's suck's about what happend to you! I have A great freind that is also paralized from the waist down from A bike (it was his own fault)! He was totally against me smoking and he was always straight edge until his accident, I got him to get nice and high when he was saying he was in pain. Now to make A long story short I supply him his med's without all the hoop's to jump thru and no BS. Thankfully I have not had any shit happen on my bike (knock on wood)!

repvip said:

andyman!

Told ya I treat my ladies like ODB! Slice and dice

Check out this blueberry--it grows leaves in three's--not pairs. At least, until it matures anyway.

I have to try pretty hard to actually kill a plant.

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YEAH hard to kill like any other weed in the garden. lol
man you dont treat your ladys very good, slappen them around and cuttin limbs off. lol just kidding.
wow I had a plant that did the 3 leaves thing once. it ended up male so you know what happend to him. also had other wierd leave ones before too like that only had 2 or 3 blades per leaf. weird. I have one little one now that has super short leaves but seems to be stacked very tight. Im interested on seeing how the little freak turns out.
keep up the sweet growin repvip. peace

I am curious if a 1 week flush will be sufficient?

How about 10 days?

Or is 2 weeks an absolute minimum?

Thanks!

I've never used hygrozyme, and I don't believe Stink ever uses it--though he has before. I haven't had any reservoir problems... so never needed hygrozyme. Also, the organic nutes have good bacteria that will be killed off with hydrogen peroxide. Hygrozyme isn't hydrogen peroxide--just thought that was confusing after reading--it's an fyi.