Hamas offensive against Israel

CANON_Grow said:

And Christian, that face similar contempt...

Holy Land Christians say attacks rising in far-right Israel

JERUSALEM (AP) — The head of the Roman Catholic Church in the Holy Land has warned in an interview that the rise of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's far-right government has made life worse for Christians in the birthplace of Christianity.

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Reminds me of my time in Iraq. We were in charge of the only Christian community in Baghdad. They were constantly being attacked or harassed by the Muslims.

Gaza looks like prime ocean front, needs an amusement park and some casinos instead of a new book in the Bible

Let's talk about what they wanted and manuals....

The Israel-Palestine conflict is one of the longest running in history, with tensions simmering for decades and intermittently escalating into armed clashes which have seen thousands of people killed on both sides.
It has now exploded into a fresh, all-out war, after the Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas launched its biggest assault on Israel in years early on Saturday.
Militants fired a barrage of rockets from Gaza and sent fighters across the border, with a festival near Kibbutz Re’im, close to the Gaza Strip, stormed and revellers killed and taken hostage.

Israel said it was on a war footing and began its own strikes against Hamas targets in Gaza, with Israeli media reporting gunbattles between bands of Palestinian fighters and security forces in southern Israel.
Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared that his country would take ‘mighty vengeance for this black day’ as warplanes launched a retaliatory strikes against Hamas.
Looking back on what led to this moment, MailOnline has compiled a timeline of the most significant moments of the world’s most bitter conflict.
1948-49 – First Arab-Israeli war
Israel was declared an independent state on May 14 1948 with the Declaration of the Establishment of Israel.
Immediately after, five Arab nations invaded territory of the former Palestinian mandate.

There were thousands of casualties sustained on both sides before an armistice agreement was reached in 1949.

June 5-10, 1967 – Six-day war
Almost 20 years after the armistice, conflict broke out again as relations between Israel and its Arab neighbours deteriorated.
By the end of the less than week-long hostilities, Israel took the Jordanian-annexed West Bank and Egyptian-occupied Gaza Strip.
2005 – Israel withdraws from the Gaza strip
Israeli forces unilaterally withdrew from Gaza 38 years after capturing it from Egypt in the Middle East war.

In doing so, they evicted almost 10,000 Israeli settlers and abandoned settlements and relocated them.
They left the enclave under the control of the Palestinian Authority.
The Disengagement Plan, put forward by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, sparked significant political division in Israel.


Thousands of supporters of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s disengagement plan
January 25, 2006 – Hamas wins elections in Palestine
The Islamist group Hamas won a majority of seats in a Palestinian legislative election.
Israel and the US cut off aid to Palestinians because Hamas refused to renounce violence and recognise Israel.

June 25, 2006 – Hamas militants capture Israeli
Hamas militants captured Israeli army conscript Gilad Shali during a cross-border raid from Gaza, prompting Israeli air strikes and incursions.
Shalit was finally freed more than five years later in a prisoner exchange.
June 14, 2007 – Hamas takes over Gaza
Hamas took over Gaza during a brief civil war, ousting Fatah forces loyal to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who is based in the West Bank.
December 27, 2008 – Israel launches offensive in Gaza
Israel launched a 22-day military offensive in Gaza after Palestinians fired rockets at the southern Israeli town of Sderot.
About 1,400 Palestinians and 13 Israelis were reported killed before a ceasefire was agreed.
November 14, 2012 – Israel kills Hamas military leader
Israel killed Hamas’s military chief of staff, Ahmad Jabari.

Eight days of Palestinian militant rocket fire and Israeli air strikes followed.
July-August, 2014 – Seven-week war
The kidnap and killing of three Israeli teenagers by Hamas sparked a seven-week war.
More than 2,100 Palestinians were reported killed in Gaza and 73 Israelis reported dead, 67 of them military.
March 2018 – Bloodshed during Palestinian protests in Gaza
Israeli troops opened fire on Palestinian protesters, saying they were trying to keep them back as they demonstrated at the fence between Israel and Gaza.
More than 170 Palestinians were reported killed in several months of protests, which also prompted fighting between Hamas and Israeli forces.



Palestinian protesters run during clashes with Israeli forces across the border fence following a demonstration near the border east of Gaza City on December 28, 2018
May 2021 – Palestinians killed in clashes with IDF
After weeks of tensions during the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, hundreds of Palestinians were wounded in clashes with Israeli security forces at the Al Aqsa compound in Jerusalem, Islam’s third holiest site.
After demanding Israel withdraw security forces from the compound, Hamas unleashed a barrage of rockets from Gaza into Israel.
Israel hit back with air strikes on Gaza. Fighting went on for 11 days, killing at least 250 people in Gaza and 13 in Israel.
August 2022 – Israel air strikes
At least 44 people, including 15 children, were killed in three days of violence that begin when Israeli air strikes hit a senior Islamic Jihad commander.

Israel said the strikes were a pre-emptive operation against an imminent attack by the Iranian-backed militant movement, targeting commanders and arms depots.
In response, Islamic Jihad fired more than 1,000 rockets towards Israel.
Israel’s Iron Dome air defence system prevented any serious damage or casualties.
January 2023 – Jihadists in Gaza fire rockets at Israel
Islamic Jihad in Gaza fired two rockets towards Israel after Israeli troops raided a refugee camp and kill seven Palestinian gunmen and two civilians.
The rockets set off alarms in Israeli communities near the border but caused no casualties. Israel responded with air strikes on Gaza.

October 2023 – Hamas launches major assault on Israel


Fire and smoke rise following an Israeli airstrike, in Gaza City

Israel’s military said it was on a war footing, adding it had carried out strikes targeting Hamas in Gaza and had called up reservists.
More Israelis have died in the conflict so far than in the last 15 years of hostilities. Hundreds of civilians on both sides have lost their lives.





Gaza 2021



May 2023 Gaza




Today in Gaza



and it will never end until Palistine gains a homeland

It will never end.


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This is very good

Week4@inCharge said:

It's a sad situation. With all the land available around that area why wouldn't Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt make room for the Palestines? 2 million folks crammed in there is crazy. Looks like a refugee camp in there.

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Palestinian Programme

Around 210,000 Palestine refugees live in Lebanon: 180,000 Palestine Refugees from Lebanon (PRL) and 30,000 Palestine Refugees from Syria (PRS), where they are regarded as foreigners. Palestine refugees in Lebanon cannot work in as many as 39 professions such as medicine, law and engineering.
The 12 recognized Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon suffer from overcrowding, poor housing conditions and insufficient infrastructure, poverty and violence, posing significant risks for children and youth. Refugees who live outside the camps, in adjacent areas known as ‘Palestinian gatherings’, are often even more vulnerable. Palestinian refugees have been hard hit by the devastating crisis in Lebanon, which has aggravated the situation for children as their parents struggle to meet their basic needs.

At the same time, UNRWA –The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East – is facing a severe funding crisis, which is affecting the provision of health, education, protection, WASH and other support to Palestinian children and their families in Lebanon.

From what I recall the Palestinians were seen as the side of the Arab family that the rest did not want.

Origins and Evolution of the Palestine Problem: 1917-1947 (Part I)

printer said:

Palestinian Programme

Around 210,000 Palestine refugees live in Lebanon: 180,000 Palestine Refugees from Lebanon (PRL) and 30,000 Palestine Refugees from Syria (PRS), where they are regarded as foreigners. Palestine refugees in Lebanon cannot work in as many as 39 professions such as medicine, law and engineering.
The 12 recognized Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon suffer from overcrowding, poor housing conditions and insufficient infrastructure, poverty and violence, posing significant risks for children and youth. Refugees who live outside the camps, in adjacent areas known as ‘Palestinian gatherings’, are often even more vulnerable. Palestinian refugees have been hard hit by the devastating crisis in Lebanon, which has aggravated the situation for children as their parents struggle to meet their basic needs.

At the same time, UNRWA –The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East – is facing a severe funding crisis, which is affecting the provision of health, education, protection, WASH and other support to Palestinian children and their families in Lebanon.

Palestinian Programme

UNICEF’s Palestinian Programme in Lebanon assists Palestinian children, mothers and youth

www.unicef.org

From what I recall the Palestinians were seen as the side of the Arab family that the rest did not want.

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I'll check that out, thanks for the info.

US begins delivering munitions to Israel as the American death toll rises to 11 in Hamas attacks (yahoo.com)

Bin Laden: Palestinian cause fuels terror war (nbcnews.com)

US annual aid to Israel = $3.8 billion

US annual aid to the West Bank/Gaza = $600 million

Is that a problem?

I think it might be.

printer said:

From what I recall the Palestinians were seen as the side of the Arab family that the rest did not want.

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They are actually seen a refuges that Israel created and bore the responsibility for.
If they did incorporate them, Israel would win.
Too bad that seemingly the only losers are the Palestinian people.
But they're all terrorists, right?
So, who really gives a fuck?
Right?

About 1.7 billion Muslims do, that's who.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Let's talk about what they wanted and manuals....

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Yup, he got it right.

Unless there is a pollical solution the violence will never end.

The Irish fought the Brits for around 500 years and never stopped killing them somewhere in Ireland until the Good Friday Agreement in 1988.

Do you really think that the violence will never stop?

Not until a Fee Palestine exists, and that you can count on.

Who has nazi flags at their events and who had dinner with them in America? Why are they always welcomed and a part of republican events where the swastika flag flies proudly next to Trump flags along with the stars and bars. I find it ironic that these supposedly big supporters of Israel have so many nazi's and antisemites in their midst? Support for Israel while coddling and electing nazi's doesn't appear to make much sense, does it? Where you find a nazi flag in America you will find a republican, same for the stars and bars and the same for a Trump flag, all are fascist and antisemitic symbols. The KKK hated blacks and jews equally as a matter of policy and a brown shirt was often hidden under the white robes and hood.

Why Were Demonstrators With Nazi Flags At Pro-Trump Gathering? | The Mehdi Hasan Show

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Two major Republican Party presidential contenders — Donald Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis — were among the headliners at this weekend’s Turning Point USA annual Student Action Summit. And just outside the venue were demonstrators with Nazi flags. What is it about the modern right that might attract those demonstrators?

Republicans for Israel

^ that's gross

Modern Selections said:

^ that's gross

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it's partialy true with current events, it's unfortunate overall

Desperate people do desperate things, no matter where they are or where they grew up. You don't stick a human in substandard living with no way out and expect them to lay down and die, we aren't made that way.

Trying to understand the actions of desperate, oppressed people when you yourself are not desperate or oppressed is not going to be easy. I for one will never tell the oppressed the ways in which they are allowed to resist. Like I said, desperate people do desperate things.

War is terrible, its always been terrible, and they've been at war longer than any of us have been alive.

CANON_Grow said:

You do realize that it is not about being a Hamas apologist or supporter, but acknowledging that it is understandable how the situation developed, right? Similar to the BLM protests, most people didn’t support or encourage the unlawful actions of a few, but did understand what lead to that situation.

Attacking innocent civilians is never acceptable, regardless of who is doing it. Pointing out human rights issue's shouldn’t be offensive, unless you support that sort of thing.

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What is this “this” you are referring to? Printer’s inaccurate labeling or the irrelevant random article he posted when that was pointed out? For me to realize something it has to be real or at least realistic and not just the construct of someone trying to patch the symptoms of their own cognitive dissonance.

“if you are offended by the misplaced antisemitism fueled parroting of hamas propaganda and whataboutisms after such a heinous terrorist attack you must support humanitarian injustice against said terrorist who use the same nonsense to justify their unjustifiable acts.” Your straw man mixed with a non-sequitur veiled ad hominem smells like church.

What is it about this topic that makes people throw critical thinking skills out the window? The same reason Trump is popular, the same reason Russians don't storm the Kremlin, the same reason there are anti-vaxxers. Cognitive dissonance, an inability to handle the truth (Palestinians aren't the victims Hamas propaganda makes them out to be, Palestine does not exist because of Palestinians, Israel is not the aggressor, and Gaza isn't Gaza because of the Israelis but because of Hamas), so you make up more untruths to try and solve the equation. It won't work, things remain what they are, not what you try to make them to fit your preconceived notions.



“This” is why sane leaders in the west with a functioning moral compass are forced to stress that no, this is not the time for pointing fingers, shifting blame, and the tu quoque which is seemingly all you got. This is not the time to pretend you know anything about the history and apply your search bias to fuel more anti-semitism that gets jewish tourists shot or synagogue's attacked.

10/11 was not the time to post random articles about the US bombing people in the ME to suggest they brought 9/11 on themselves and murdering civilians is 'understandable'. People insist Israel must be tolerant towards the ultimate intolerance and risk the lives of more people. Rather than acknowledging that's madness and is not expected of any other people/nation, they go double down... triple down, and end up applying search bias to gather a cherry picked list of 'history' and things Israel did (in response to terrorists as all the major media outlets are now wise enough this time to make clear in even headlines).

Russians steal Ukranian children: "take Putin to the Hague!"
Hamas terrorists steal Jewish children: "But Isreal..."

Tolerating "THIS" is exactly why Americans & Canadians ended up sacrificing lives in europe in the 1940s...