H.A.F. growing stink-flowers in dirt with QB's
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H.A.F.
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This is fun - I want to chop plants and drop more seeds LOL
H.A.F.
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And the seedlings are like 3 different plants now.
Lush, fat sprouts, short node-spacing.
Tall and skinny, skinny sprouts that look stunted (male I'm guessing, but I don't know sh!t)
An one with stunted top leaves, the tri-pod may end up being a pentagon if the top stays slow. This has manifold written all over it! Those two shoots just below the top are the ones I will be keeping anyway. They are going to get a great start with no shading from big fan leaves.
@J.James I may top/manifold this one early just because. I want to see what that next set of leaves looks like though. And I need to wait for the transplant to get established.
Lush, fat sprouts, short node-spacing.
Tall and skinny, skinny sprouts that look stunted (male I'm guessing, but I don't know sh!t)
An one with stunted top leaves, the tri-pod may end up being a pentagon if the top stays slow. This has manifold written all over it! Those two shoots just below the top are the ones I will be keeping anyway. They are going to get a great start with no shading from big fan leaves.
@J.James I may top/manifold this one early just because. I want to see what that next set of leaves looks like though. And I need to wait for the transplant to get established.
morugawelder
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where did you get those bases at ?
H.A.F.
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They are called 'bucket-grids'. Supposed to fit in a 5 gallon bucket (fits some) so when you wash your car any grit falls to the bottom and you don't scratch the paint. Auto-parts place, wally world, amazon, I think they're about $10 each.
H.A.F.
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@morugawelder Here's a better pic of my 'special' plant 
The lower set of sprouts is almost the same size as the top.
I'm manifolding anyway, so nothing above those sprouts really matters as long as the roots keep spreading.
The lower set of sprouts is almost the same size as the top.I'm manifolding anyway, so nothing above those sprouts really matters as long as the roots keep spreading.
H.A.F.
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I don't go by calendar days for much of anything except figuring out what I should be feeding. The RM put out a lot of roots, but it took a while for them to reach the bottom of the pot. When I transplanted them they were wrapped around pretty good. Not root bound but a nice 'mesh' around the bottom half of the dirt-ball.
I checked the BW because she looked a little light-green.
She was planted about a week later, but already poking out.
I don't like messing around taking pics with the roots exposed, but they were nowhere near as abundant as the RM. There was one large swirl from high to low that went around 3 sides of the pot and right out the bottom. It did have fatter tap-roots but no 'swarm' of follicles off the taps like
So I'm leaning towards just getting another 65 instead to hold me over for the time being, then maybe ditch the tent and build a specific room for the same purpose later.
I checked the BW because she looked a little light-green.
She was planted about a week later, but already poking out.
I don't like messing around taking pics with the roots exposed, but they were nowhere near as abundant as the RM. There was one large swirl from high to low that went around 3 sides of the pot and right out the bottom. It did have fatter tap-roots but no 'swarm' of follicles off the taps like
the RM.
Anyway, I now have 4 plants under a 65w light until I harvest the Hulk.
Hoping to fund a second light for the tent next week and the waiting will be no problem. Since I'm running seeds with unknown flower times I want to get another light equal to the 135's that I could veg for quite a while under comfortably. But then I would also need to upgrade from the vivosun 4" rattle-fan if I put that much heat in. Then it becomes too much of an expense for that little tent...
Anyway, I now have 4 plants under a 65w light until I harvest the Hulk.
Hoping to fund a second light for the tent next week and the waiting will be no problem. Since I'm running seeds with unknown flower times I want to get another light equal to the 135's that I could veg for quite a while under comfortably. But then I would also need to upgrade from the vivosun 4" rattle-fan if I put that much heat in. Then it becomes too much of an expense for that little tent... So I'm leaning towards just getting another 65 instead to hold me over for the time being, then maybe ditch the tent and build a specific room for the same purpose later.
H.A.F.
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Stoner alert! - I'm in creative mode and typing stuff down before I forget. I'm thinking out loud, so if I miss something obvious chime in.
I'm thinking like a cabinet set-up to replace the tent, with an short upper cabinet and a taller lower one.
3 gallon pot needs 1sqft (10"diameter). Since I'm culling males I plan to drop 6 seeds each time, 5 regs and a fem. 6 pots 2'x3' space. I could make it smaller if I want to use smaller pots and transplant twice.
About 4-5' for the early-veg part should be plenty of room even if I get a stretcher.
2-3' cabinet for seedlings before transplant. With a heat mat. And messing with a dome lid would suck in a cabinet, so make it more like a dome. Not passive ventilation like a dome, but maybe just a vent-fan like my drying cabinet or a Y from the other ventilation with a damper or rheostat in case both are going at the same time for some reason.
If I put the seedling part on the bottom, I won't be reaching up to mess with them, and it'll put the pots at an easier level to mess with if they are 2-3' up already. The 65w doesn't dim, so it can't be too short.
Should be sealed so I can keep the humidity up, so a damper might be best on the ventilation.
Windows.
I'm thinking like a cabinet set-up to replace the tent, with an short upper cabinet and a taller lower one.
3 gallon pot needs 1sqft (10"diameter). Since I'm culling males I plan to drop 6 seeds each time, 5 regs and a fem. 6 pots 2'x3' space. I could make it smaller if I want to use smaller pots and transplant twice.
About 4-5' for the early-veg part should be plenty of room even if I get a stretcher.
2-3' cabinet for seedlings before transplant. With a heat mat. And messing with a dome lid would suck in a cabinet, so make it more like a dome. Not passive ventilation like a dome, but maybe just a vent-fan like my drying cabinet or a Y from the other ventilation with a damper or rheostat in case both are going at the same time for some reason.
If I put the seedling part on the bottom, I won't be reaching up to mess with them, and it'll put the pots at an easier level to mess with if they are 2-3' up already. The 65w doesn't dim, so it can't be too short.
Should be sealed so I can keep the humidity up, so a damper might be best on the ventilation.
Windows.
I have 8' ceilings.
I think that's about it without graph paper.
I think that's about it without graph paper.
morugawelder
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Hey bro , where did you buy the risers that the bags are on ? sry. if I missed it ,
H.A.F.
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morugawelder
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exactly what I need for these bags , thanks !@morugawelder Here's a better pic of my 'special' plant
View attachment 4370750 The lower set of sprouts is almost the same size as the top.
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I'm manifolding anyway, so nothing above those sprouts really matters as long as the roots keep spreading.
H.A.F.
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A 3 gallon pot is the biggest they'll work for. 5 gallons drape over the sides.
H.A.F.
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Day 15 12/12 for the clones, and I have flowers.
6 pots, and I wanted to make sure they were thoroughly soaked, so I ran a gallon through each (only drank a little more than half gallon)
6 gallons of RO doesn't fit in a 5 gallon bucket... so 2 buckets. In my book that means an experiment LOL
The Happy Frog schedule calls for "Bembe" which is a cane sweetener and supposedly feeds the microbes. I also have a jug of the "Sweet Grape" by Botanicare which is the same, but also has grape esters that are supposed to come out in the final taste test. It seems more 'pure' than the bembe too, it's clear.
So 3 plants got one, 3 plants got the other, and I'll keep that up for the rest of the grow to see if there's a difference. Probably the last time I'll mention it, since it isn't something you can see - unless you wonder what the little tags on the plants are - now you know.
The tallest one is 20", the short one 9". She's getting a bucket to sit on as soon as I can find it.
6 pots, and I wanted to make sure they were thoroughly soaked, so I ran a gallon through each (only drank a little more than half gallon)
6 gallons of RO doesn't fit in a 5 gallon bucket... so 2 buckets. In my book that means an experiment LOL
The Happy Frog schedule calls for "Bembe" which is a cane sweetener and supposedly feeds the microbes. I also have a jug of the "Sweet Grape" by Botanicare which is the same, but also has grape esters that are supposed to come out in the final taste test. It seems more 'pure' than the bembe too, it's clear.
So 3 plants got one, 3 plants got the other, and I'll keep that up for the rest of the grow to see if there's a difference. Probably the last time I'll mention it, since it isn't something you can see - unless you wonder what the little tags on the plants are - now you know.
The tallest one is 20", the short one 9". She's getting a bucket to sit on as soon as I can find it.
H.A.F.
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Since these are in small pots, I am going to stagger the feeding on them. The schedule calls for a tablespoon per gallon of soil of whatever top-feed is required (5 different formulas, all organic) then the liquid feed that has Big Bloom, the sweetener, kelp, microbe stuff etc.
Last grow in 2 gallon pots they only drank a half gallon at a time, but needed fed every 1.5 to 2 days. So for a regular week I'll do the top feed, then the liquid feed next round, then RO once or twice before the next feeds depending on runoff ppm.
Here's the individual pics. Since they still aren't 'set' for limb positioning, I untie everything before I water, then give it a look while it's draining and move stuff around. On #4 (lefty) I did more to support/adjust the trunk than I did the limbs. Only snipped 2 more shoots, and it was painful because they were little flowers
Last grow in 2 gallon pots they only drank a half gallon at a time, but needed fed every 1.5 to 2 days. So for a regular week I'll do the top feed, then the liquid feed next round, then RO once or twice before the next feeds depending on runoff ppm.
Here's the individual pics. Since they still aren't 'set' for limb positioning, I untie everything before I water, then give it a look while it's draining and move stuff around. On #4 (lefty) I did more to support/adjust the trunk than I did the limbs. Only snipped 2 more shoots, and it was painful because they were little flowers