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A couple of days of 12/12 and we get to see some action...
Lots of hairs popping out everywhere...
Is that sarcasm or were they really in veg that long or did it just seem that long
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Katatawnic
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Are they still tied to the ceiling hooks (or whatever you've been using)? Can those be readjusted to keep the branches within the optimal light zone, without taking growth away from what's inside of the perimeter?Well Kat ... I just don't want to end up with branches outside of the "optimal light zone"...
and I can't raise the lights anymore...
if these plants had been trained from day one, I would have this issue...
but half ass johnny over here just HAD to do it...
I'm sure you've thought of this already, but had to ask anyway.
You know, aside from SOG type of grows, I just can't imagine anyone NOT doing LST while vegging! Whether vegging longer to get lots more growth, or just vegging one's "regular" amount of time, it makes a huge difference! These babies are seven weeks old today. They appear short as hell due to the BDSM that I've inflicted on them, but this is a major difference compared to seven weeks from my last grow!
Check this out.... #1 is five plants in one shot from my first grow at seven weeks; #2 is my current grow the day I started LST, and #3 is today at seven weeks. The ones in the pots look "sparse" compared to the first grow's shot, but of course that's only an optical illusion because they're in 10" diameter pots instead of all five being crammed into a tiny little AG.
I just started LST 17 days ago, and WOW, what a difference! 
My two seedlings will get to veg much larger, as they'll continue growing while I flower these four. I'm flipping them to 12/12 within the next week, for my first harvest! We just placed a bid on a 4 bdrm. house; if we get it, I've already got my grow room all picked out, and then I'm going for trees as big as I can get 'em!
It'll take months to be ready for anything more than a decent bush, but once we're able to collect all I'll need for my room.... watch out, everybody!!! Attachments
Katatawnic
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They vegged that long. They used to be moms.
GypsyBush
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Yup they used to be moms... and have given me HUNDREDS of cuttings...
and Kat...
some of the branches are tied DOWN... I have not had the need to tie anything from the ceiling yet...
So far I have done very little tying... but LOTS of "pinch and bend"... even a little breaking...
and have given me HUNDREDS of cuttings...and Kat...
some of the branches are tied DOWN... I have not had the need to tie anything from the ceiling yet...
So far I have done very little tying... but LOTS of "pinch and bend"... even a little breaking...
GypsyBush
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Katatawnic
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Thanks, Gypsy!your girls look super healthy...
Would you think by looking at them that they had a fairly bad case of pythium just three weeks ago?!
That's why I switched to soil. It's just way too hot in the So. CA desert to do hydro in the summer when you live in a very old house with poor insulation, and can't afford to buy (much less run) more air conditioners! (We're working on buying a house right now, so no spending till we've got it! As it is, my man took money out of savings a few days ago to get me a better light fixture; I think he loves me! lol) Now it's all under control. The air temp isn't optimal yet, but still OK. I've got inline fans to be delivered on Monday, and that'll bring the temp down from OK to optimal. Now I'm just hoping that these babies are really forgiving of my last all-male grow!
One is from a feminized seed, so barring "hermie surprises" I've got one guarantee of an actual harvest. Plus, the last grow was from bagseed, and not the best. I didn't want to invest precious money in good genetics until I'd first grown some MJ and made sure I wouldn't kill them. LOLIf you wanna read a very amusing (short) story, check out last night's post on my GJ.
M Blaze
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Sounds like you need to add something like Pythoff to your feed to avoid any future pythium problems.Thanks, Gypsy!
Would you think by looking at them that they had a fairly bad case of pythium just three weeks ago?!
Now I'm just hoping that these babies are really forgiving of my last all-male grow!
If you wanna read a very amusing (short) story, check out last night's post on my GJ.
Katatawnic
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Thanks for the tip, Blaze!
Is this by chance the same as or similar to Hygrozyme? I was going to get some of that on the 1st; local hydro shop has it, so I don't need to wait for shipping. Now that I don't have a reservoir heating up, and also moved the window A/C unit from the living room to my grow space, there hasn't been a problem. Temp peaks at about 82F for about an hour on the really hot days, but otherwise stays below 76F. (Not bad considering we can't get the rest of the house below 80F!) The inline fans will take care of that 82F daily spike.I was still going to get the Hygrozyme though; always good to have extra protection.
GypsyBush
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Just so you know Kat.. Hygrozyme is not protection.. not at all...
In fact if you add hygrozyme to a rez infested with disease and bad bacteria.. you're likely to kill your plants...
Enzymes feed the bacteria in your res...
If you have your roots colonized with the good guys, Hygrozyme will do wonders for the roots... nice THICK WHITE NOODLES...
But if the bad guys are home.. and you super feed them.. well you can see how it would end...
Enzymes work on a healthy system...
In fact if you add hygrozyme to a rez infested with disease and bad bacteria.. you're likely to kill your plants...
Enzymes feed the bacteria in your res...
If you have your roots colonized with the good guys, Hygrozyme will do wonders for the roots... nice THICK WHITE NOODLES...
But if the bad guys are home.. and you super feed them.. well you can see how it would end...
Enzymes work on a healthy system...
M Blaze
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Im not sure if its the same coz ive never seen hygrozyme. I have never had pythium problems but I always add some pythoff every 4-7 days in my nute schedule for coco. The Pythoff is a highly concentrated conditioner/dissinfectant so it last a very long time as only a few drops need to be added to the nutes.
Here is a link which tells you more about the product so you can compare it to others: http://justhydroponics.com.au/products/Pythoff_1_Ltr-12-0.html
Here is a link which tells you more about the product so you can compare it to others: http://justhydroponics.com.au/products/Pythoff_1_Ltr-12-0.html
Katatawnic
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Oh yes, I'm aware of this.If you have your roots colonized with the good guys, Hygrozyme will do wonders for the roots... nice THICK WHITE NOODLES...
But if the bad guys are home.. and you super feed them.. well you can see how it would end...
Enzymes work on a healthy system...
I wanted the Hygrozyme to promote healthier roots. I've been hearing left and right that Hygrozyme helps in preventing pythium infections, by breaking down anything dead in there so it can't sit and invite pathogens. Is this incorrect? I need to know before I spend money I really don't have! Thanks again! But I'm not doing hydro anymore. I'm sticking with soil; well, I'm looking into coco for my next seedlings, but still container growing. Turns out that hydro is just too hard on my bum body!
Hauling gallons of water to drain and then gallons more to refill, plus cleaning the reservoir and all the pumps & airstones, etc., leaves me literally immobile the rest of the day/night, and I have enough problems with that without inviting more! That link you provided says that the Pythoff is specifically for hydro. I've seen other "anti-pythium" products that are for hydro and soil both, so I'm not sure what makes Pythoff hydro-only. 
Katatawnic
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Gotcha! Thanks guys! You're always such a great help!
You're always such a great help!
Katatawnic
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Looks like. Pythoff says it's a sterilizing agent, whereas Hygrozyme is made of enzymes that break down dead/fallen roots and foliage, etc., and turns them into "food" for the plants. I like the sterilizing agent idea more.
I registered to that site (justhydroponics), curious if perhaps they take PayPal (I lost my bank card and am waiting for the replacement LOL), but each time I log in and then go to another page, I'm told to log in again! It won't add items to the shopping cart. GGGGRRRRR!
M Blaze
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The Pythoff is an Australian product I think and that site is an Aussie site but they ship worldwide. Not sure on the paypal thing though.Looks like. Pythoff says it's a sterilizing agent, whereas Hygrozyme is made of enzymes that break down dead/fallen roots and foliage, etc., and turns them into "food" for the plants. I like the sterilizing agent idea more.
I registered to that site (justhydroponics), curious if perhaps they take PayPal (I lost my bank card and am waiting for the replacement LOL), but each time I log in and then go to another page, I'm told to log in again! It won't add items to the shopping cart. GGGGRRRRR!