Gun control is coming

PadawanWarrior

Well-Known Member
so you think they were time travelers? that they were aware that weapons would advance to their current state? They wrote that in the 1770s...To try to apply it to the current situation is not sane.


And that would lead to the nightmare scenario where people are dying and killing others to keep their illegal weapons...so your sherrif would become a criminal, abet other criminals, and ultimately get all of you killed in the inevitable standoff you have no chance of winning.
are you sure you want to go out in a blaze of glory? because the rest of us aren't going to remember it that way, we'll all remember it as you were criminals who fought the law, and lost.
Most cops support the 2nd amendment. Haven't you Democrats pissed off the cops enough already?
 

Fogdog

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^^Another new member shows up and talks about what's nobody says they want to do to reduce deaths from guns.

Nobody is talking about taking guns away. The NRA is saying that, not people talking about gun regulations. Taking guns away from people who have and never would hurt somebody would be dumb. And only the NRA is saying the dumb thing. And the "new" member is repeating the dumb thing.

OTOH, requiring insurance of one who owns a gun might make sense:

 

Wattzzup

Well-Known Member
Another new member shows up and talks about what's nobody says they want to do to reduce deaths from guns.

Nobody is talking about taking guns away. The NRA is saying that, not people talking about gun regulations. Taking guns away from people who have and never would hurt somebody would be dumb. And only the NRA is saying the dumb thing.

OTOH, requiring insurance of one who owns a gun might make sense:

Don’t talk about taking away their pacifiers. That gets them all upset.
 

Fogdog

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If you’re speaking about me you haven’t read all my posts in this thread.

I specifically stated that all the talk of confiscation is just that. All discussion of confiscation does is drum up the base, and sell more firearms.
You are right, I haven't read all your posts. Do I need to before responding to you? Have you read all of mine? It's ok, you don't have to read all of them. Most are crap anyway.

In any case, if you are saying the NRA's "take your guns" propaganda is used to sow unjustified fear in the gun owning crowd, you'd be right.
 

Fogdog

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i would of thought cali was a darker color on that chart, and whats up with Wyoming and Montana folks too trigger happy there
One would think that with a low population density just finding somebody to shoot would be difficult. But top Montana predators know that their prey come down from the hills to drink at a watering hole at least once a day..

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Sickofitall420247

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they wouldn't have even been talking about a rifle in the modern sense. They had flintlock muskets. Single round weapons that took a skilled musketeer around 15-20 seconds to load. No rifling in the barrels, no hollow point or armor piercing rounds, no high capacity magazines, no speed loaders, no bump stocks, no full auto conversion kits...How the radical right got to here from there is pretty fucking amazing...
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
The "ah-hah, gotcha" tone of the author when he said this:

"Have you ever heard that the Second Amendment doesn’t apply to modern guns? That the Founders couldn’t possibly have anticipated the evolution of weaponry? Not only is that argument logically flawed, but it is also historically inaccurate. Behold, the Puckle Gun."

lulz. So, OK, that one is grandfathered in along with flintlock rifles. I'm OK with that being the most extreme weaponry protected under the 2A. :lol:

That author sure is smart. He just plain maneuvered me into agreeing to make the Puckle gun legal and ban all firearms invented after that. Where can I sign the agreement?

This is such a stupid issue.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
The "ah-hah, gotcha" tone of the author when he said this:

"Have you ever heard that the Second Amendment doesn’t apply to modern guns? That the Founders couldn’t possibly have anticipated the evolution of weaponry? Not only is that argument logically flawed, but it is also historically inaccurate. Behold, the Puckle Gun."

lulz. So, OK, that one is grandfathered in along with flintlock rifles. I'm OK with that being the most extreme weaponry protected under the 2A. :lol:

That author sure is smart. He just plain maneuvered me into agreeing to make the Puckle gun legal and ban all firearms invented after that. Where can I sign the agreement?

This is such a stupid issue.
using such logic, these are cell phones.

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OldMedUser

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Lemme see if I got this right.

America has the most guns per population than all other western countries not at war.

America has the most gun deaths per population of all other western countries not at war.

America has the most mass shootings of all other western countries not at war. Over two per day this year so it could almost be called a national sport. Maybe an Olympic sport down the road?

I think it's way past time for some amendments to the 2nd one. It is, after all, just an amendment.

:peace:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The second was for military purposes and it doesn't mention guns, it speaks of arms in a military context and that includes grenades, bombs, artillery and even rockets, as in the rocket's red glare. All were military arms in existence and used at the time, so their technological descendants should be legal just like guns are. According to the pickle gun theory you should be able to own a M-777 artillery piece and shoot it off in yer backyard or have an RPG for home defense. The original intent of the founders is paramount here, common sense has nothing to do with it, the constitution is a suicide pact.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Lemme see if I got this right.

America has the most guns per population than all other western countries not at war.

America has the most gun deaths per population of all other western countries not at war.

America has the most mass shootings of all other western countries not at war. Over two per day this year so it could almost be called a national sport. Maybe an Olympic sport down the road?

I think it's way past time for some amendments to the 2nd one. It is, after all, just an amendment.

:peace:
The 2nd amendment is a child of the 1780s, both in technology and society. Originalists try to obfuscate that.
 
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