Guerrilla Warfare - Part 2 - Diesel Ryder, Auto Blueberry, Auto Assassin

Exodus434 said:

I know you keep saying location location location and safer in pots etc etc , but lets get down to basics here mate... I think your forgetting something here. The plant will grow much taller much faster much stronger with a big area for roots to span, obviously in your argument you could use bigger pots but i think what your forgetting is the water issue, see in your buckets there soil only can hold so much moisture, and as a man that im sure has dug a deep whole before even during a drought will know that the soil is moist the further you go... NOW with that being said your issues with "Deficiencies and such" Will have become less and less, unless the reason why you keep saying location location is because your constantly moving them to get the best light then i could see why you keep telling us to bug off lol but honestly i would love to take you up on a challenge if your up to it those seeds your working on sound like an awesome thing you have going so let me know when you need testers

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I'm very aware that plants generally do better in the ground than buckets.

That's not some special point of illumination provided by you; it's common fact that anyone with an IQ above 70 realizes.

I don't have the luxury, however, to be near anywhere with good soil, only hard clay just inches below the ground.

If you have any experience working with primarily clay-based soils, you quickly realize you can't grow in them. Even digging holes in the ground and replacing with primo soil doesn't solve the drainage issue. When it rains, there is nowhere for the rain to drain, and it just sits in the clay holes, in a watery puddle for weeks on end....slowly suffocating and killing any plants that are trying to grow in them.

That's why I'm growing in 5-gallon buckets. I've been growing weed in buckets for years, and almost always end up with at least a pound.

Second off, I don't have any issues with deficiencies. Not really sure what you're trying to intimate here, but thanks for stopping by....I guess.

Very pleased to report that my pollination efforts were completely successful.

The Diesel Ryder and Auto Blueberry plants all have visible yet immature-seeds laying in tight-bunches on several bud-sites. So happy to see the large amounts of seed. The top colas appear sporadically pollinated, which is all well and good.

It looks like I'll have 100+ seeds from each strain (at least).

Even the Auto Assassin (which was pollinated with a prized Jack The Ripper male) is developing small seeds. Upon closer inspection using 30x microscope and some lab equipment, it was clear of a pistil hair going down and creating a tube, leading to a tiny seed being formed.

Really satisfied at not only the robust seed development, but the overall maturity of the unseeded cannabis. Hairs are starting to shrivel up and turn orange/brown, the plants are smelling more and more each time I go out there, and a visible thickness is building on the buds each trip out there.

Awesome man, glad to hear that the pollination was a success! My friends male is about to bust a nut so he will be using your technique in the next week or so.

What week is best to pollenate? and how long is the seed development stage take

Budsmoker187 said:

What week is best to pollenate? and how long is the seed development stage take

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I like pollinating after the first 3-4 weeks of flowering. I like to see lots of pistil clusters.

Whenever you pollinate, just make sure the pistils are mostly still white, for the best success.

Seeds take anywhere between 4-6 weeks to be fully developed, but this again varies.

I usually just harvest seeds when the buds are done. That way, you know your seeds are mature.

Some people like going a little longer than that even, and for some strains, it might be necessary to wait even past when the buds are done to harvest the seeds. Usually people that wait, wait another week to 10 days, and then harvest the seeds.

Seeds are like buds in some respects though; some are done sooner than others.

Immature seeds have much lower germination rates, so if making seeds is your goal and you have the patience, wait until the plant starts dying (very end of flowering) to harvest the seeds.

WOW, nice grow, keep up the good work!

roundplanet said:

WOW, nice grow, keep up the good work!

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Hey, thanks for stopping by and taking a look!

Plants look good. Really good dirt you have in those pots ehh? lol

Gopedxr said:

Plants look good. Really good dirt you have in those pots ehh? lol

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It's just a simple mix of soils, peat moss, seasonings & spices (sic), and some perlite.
I went organic, not having added any additional fertilizers, not even molasses (even though I've had success with both in the past).

I do like Fox Farms Big Bloom, but I'm convinced that while additional ferts do help to a certain extent in bud production and plant health, they're not entirely necessary for choice buds.

Quality bud comes from great genetics...and a decent grow environment. My opinion.

Thanks for taking a look GoPedxr!

Ya man i think your right. Wait till you see when i get going : ) Trying to get a house atm lol.

looking good bro real good

jhod58vw said:

looking good bro real good

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Hey thanks Jhod!

I sometimes wonder if people look at this thread, so it's nice to see people actually participate.

I know I don't have a great camera, but I try to document what I can with good picture and video coverage.

Should have a new update pretty soon.

Seeds should be more prominently displayed, and the colors/thickness of the buds should be more defined on this next update.

hey Dr. Yo looking good.

Im interested in how your auto assasin does mostly cos its on my consideration list haha.
i really like your discipline in cleanliness for pollenation, its inspiring

deffinatley looking forward to the pics of seeds developing so i know what to look for as a first timer haha we all got to start somewhere

olliearmstrong7 said:

hey Dr. Yo looking good.

Im interested in how your auto assasin does mostly cos its on my consideration list haha.
i really like your discipline in cleanliness for pollenation, its inspiring

deffinatley looking forward to the pics of seeds developing so i know what to look for as a first timer haha we all got to start somewhere

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Well it was a PITA to haul all that water out there, just to use it to clean myself/tools off, but I felt it necessary to reduce cross-pollination's.

It might've been overkill. However, I do tend to be sloppy (even when I'm trying not to be), so I like to build a lot of redundancy into things that require care, like keeping clean during pollinating.

Yeah the Auto Assassin is my biggest plant, with tremendous branching.

Out of 4 seeds, all 4 turned out to be females. I really wish I would have had at least 1 male Auto Assassin to breed with, but I pollinated 2 of the Auto Assassins with Jack The Ripper pollen, which should make a really interesting Sativa-dominant hybrid.

I hope I'll be able to capture the seed production with my crappy camera. I think I'll take video of the plants once seeds become very obvious, as I think images show up slightly better with a video over just a still picture frame.

I have documented as much as I could about the males and each female I'm breeding with in a separate journal. This information will then be attached to the containers that I'll be storing the resulting seed strains in.

That way, I'll be able to accurately categorize and understand the genetics that I'm working with in future breeding projects, which will make understanding their heritage that much easier.

I can't begin to explain how satisfying it is that my pollination's all took.

I was worried I wouldn't get many seeds, but it looks like I should clear at least 100+ per strain, and with the Auto Assassin (which I have two plants pollinated) I should get double that.

Thanks for stopping by Ollie!

just checked them out, lookin real nice. how are the buckets working out? better than ammending soil?

Looking quiliaty mate, love to see finished result.

bong face said:

just checked them out, lookin real nice. how are the buckets working out? better than ammending soil?

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Ammending the soil in my location isn't possible.

You can dig any size hole you like, 3x3, 4x4, 5x5, 10x10, whatever, and replace it with soil of the Gods, and it still wouldn't work in my location. The nearly 100% natural clay that exists acts like a container that holds absolutely all moisture without draining.

So what happens is any time it rains, your holes with perfect soil flood and never drain, so water just stews and sits in a goopy, watery mess for literally weeks after it rains.

Eventually, any plants that are growing in these holes eventually dies of suffocation from all the water.

I've been growing weed in buckets for years, and it hasn't failed me. Last year, I grew 8 1/2 feet tall G13/Haze and Sour Diesel in 5-gallon buckets.

So yeah, great success.

Haha yer it is needed if you know what genetics you want!
I think I may take a more lapsed approach being lazy haha

Right I think the assassin is going on my list
How far off harvest do you think you are I'd like a smoke report haha

Cheers Dr. To

Well I'm gonna have a ton of seed!

The 1 Diesel Ryder plant that I had, I totally pollinated. The results are a completely seeded plant. I picked one small cluster of seeds, and pulled 14 off the one small cluster. The seeds are still immature and green, but are starting to get close.

Two of the three Auto Blueberry have also shown lots of seed production. The buds on the Auto Blueberry are starting to get a darker purple/blueish hue to them, and there is an unmistakeable smell of fruit/berry in the air from them. So impressed with the Auto Blueberry....they've made me a believer.

The Auto Assassin look just amazing too. My tallest Auto Assassin is probably 2 1/2 feet tall, bushy...it almost looks like a regular strain. I pollinated this female and another shorter stout one with Jack The Ripper pollen, but I haven't seen an visible seeds yet. I believe pollination was successful, as I've disected a few calyxes and seen what appear to be tiny seeds slowly maturing.

What a wild strain though: Auto Assassin x Jack The Ripper. I can't wait to plant the resulting seeds and see all the variations. That's gonna be some fruity weed.

Well the plants went through some serious weather-hell last night, with 60-70mph wind gusts blowing and twisting the plants quite a bit.

The Diesel Ryder has a very exaggerated slope now, as if it had been LST'd.

The tallest Auto Assassin suffered ZERO damage surprisingly, even though it's about 2 1/2 feet tall and bushy. I had one of the unpollinated Auto Assassins become tilted to one side pretty heavily, again like it had been LST'd.

All the plants main stems seem firmly rooted and strong still, and there were ZERO limbs damaged, with only a few leaves blown off a few of the plants.

I think this is one aspect in which OUTDOOR Autoflowering plants have an advantage over larger, more conventional marijuana plants: they remain short, and don't act like wind-sails when major storms come blowing through.

I had 2 Querkles and 1 Jack The Ripper bucket that completely blew over, likely due to their size and being top-heavy.

Despite the storm, I couldn't be happier with the plants flowering! The Auto Blueberry is a real star; it's developing that purplish/blue hue to it's leaves/buds/stems, and the buds themselves are starting to add some plumpness and size.

Same with the Auto Assassins and the Diesel Ryder. They're probably already to pick. I examined some trichome heads recently with a 30x microscope, and discovered a nice ratio of cloudy/amber trichs.

The key for me though, is waiting until the seeds in the calyxes are ready. This entire grow was predicating it's success on pure-strain seed development. I'm close to the end now, and really wanna pull these ladies, but I keep having to remind myself what my goals are, and why.

I have sampled a few buds, and can confirm they are getting stronger and stronger every week.

As in anything in life (at least I've found), it's good to form a solid plan, but even more important to stick with the plan you've developed until the end.

Here are the pics: