Growitup Greenhouse 2011

Well, yesterday was the first day of fall and its cooled down about 15° so we are back to around 80° (ninety's in the green house) with little damage so that's good.

Couple of train wreck buds:








Looks like Caterpillar damage but it happened like over night when it got real hot. I looked and didn't see any.

So like I guess I finally learned this thing is just not tall enough for sativa mix strains vegged this long.





Doesn't matter if I train it, there is just too much foliage in there and if I don't do something about it I'm afraid the buds will develop mold. So, I guess its time to remove the dam roof again. I don't need as much height as last year so I will modify the expando to make it a little shorter. So much for the scrubber. It ant workin all that great anyway with that large vent in the roof.












Sometimes I wonder why I'm so fucking hard headed. Its gonna be all indica dominate strains from here on out.

I think you could grow hybrids no problem just do a test grow inside 1st then you can work out how much they stretch and when's best to stick them in the greenhouse remember it's all a learning curve

well if i were you, i would use smaller pots so they wont get as big. I had the same problem in my grow room my plants were reaching the celling, so i started using smaller pots and yes the plants produced less but they still seem to do good.

Idk tho with the greenhouse it might not matter they grow so dam well in there. lol you have the best plants of anyone i know!

damn cruzer, they look GREAT!! I almost fell out when I read "I guess its time to remove the dam roof again."!!! I hate to see it cause I know you didnt want it, but it was funny to hear!!! Well you have the screen in place so maybe when you take off the roof you can pretty much leave it alone. stretch should be close to over or within the next week or so, huh?

Damn cruzer how many people are u growing for half of Cali or what? Lol, they look awesome and agree totally with the comment above your plants are the best I have ever seen except mine lmao j/k I will say for a new grower never trying this before working with an awesome strain they have come out very nice anyone I show says holy shit WTF how much lol but anyways a question about the flowering schedule if I decide or if weather permits and I'm able to keep these ladies going for 12 weeks, do I take into account the transition period? I think it was about a week and a half to two weeks before they were fully in flowering. So would you preonally go by weeks and schedules or rather, Mr professional lol, the look of the plant i e trichromes, pistils etc.? Thanks for all the expert advice....peace from the middleast

They were popping out of soil in the first pot I started them in on may 1st, vegged until July 21st then switched to 12/12 and each after sunlight has been declining started 12/12 now on sept25 it's about 9-10/14 there about 4 feet tall the bigger one and you were definitely right remember I said I had 2 going and one was behind the other by 2 weeks maybe, well they have been racing and she has definitely caught right up lol I'll put up a recent pic just to get an opinion of how much longer u would let them go. Do you flush at all cruzer? I have only been using chem ferts and have flushed her twice throughout thier lives do u recommend the 7-14 days of flushing the last couple of weeks before harvest? Or is this just a myth? Only feel comfortable asking here cause everyone seems to know it all but I know you do tho cruzer lol all feed back welcome and anticipated! Ty Ty

Cruzer

Just break / bend the tops of those gals & tie them back down on themselves

I use zipties to hold them after the bending & they will get bigger buds on those branches

Looking great & don't use smaller containers, you are already getting fade on your leaves & a smaller container would only compound the issue even more

T

I gotta admit that although having to raise the roof may frustrate ya, I gotta chuckle. We all wish we had a similar problem.
My vote is that you build an addition....the "Sativa Wing". And get a pair of stilts....would make a great video next year. lol

Willburr

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions guys, "Sativa wing" Ha! I like it.
I have already brought up expanding and Unfortunately it didn't fly, so this is all the space I get unless I wanna sleep on the couch.
Smaller pots would keep them smaller I suppose, testing hybrid under lights before bringing them out there doesn't really work, under the sun it grows differently, cant just switch to 12/12 and I have been tying them back.

So today I got the roof panels off, just my luck it rained a little bit right after I got them off.
Not too bad but I decided to leave them off for a couple days so it can dry out real good.














Train wreck wasn't a Caterpillar, it is mold. What a mess.




Got it on the two largest buds, I picked out some of it and gonna see in the next couple days if by exposing it to light it will die, if not I will remove the entire bud.

Dam, this grow is going sideways. Another learning curve huh?
Well it sure has changed my mind about going with the strain critical mass next year. Bubba Kush is just about done, Maybe I should just stick with that for next year.
In my cab grows it takes me two or three grows before I get a strain down. Here I keep trying different strains. I think its time to settle down.

yeah, just pick the best strain that grew best from last year, and the best strain from this year, and add them to next year's list??? Maybe you could work out 4 greenhouse harvests or something with vegging in the cab, an off the wall idea which probably wont work at all!!! Take care cruzer!

Sure it will work with a 8 week or under flowering strain.
Like Bubba Kush is just about done right now and I got 6 months to go with of 12 hours or less daylight. That's 3 more blooming cycles at 8 weeks each.
I can veg 6 plants in my cab up to about 2 feet before I run out of room. If I time it right and got the right strain it's do-able, not off the wall at all bud.

cruzer101 said:

Sure it will work with a 8 week or under flowering strain.
Like Bubba Kush is just about done right now and I got 6 months to go with of 12 hours or less daylight. That's 3 more blooming cycles at 8 weeks each.
I can veg 6 plants in my cab up to about 2 feet before I run out of room. If I time it right and got the right strain it's do-able, not off the wall at all bud.

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I got some really fast flowerers down here Cruze, some 50 day strains if you are interested...

Sorry about the mold dude! Fast finishers definitely the key in a greenhouse, I would stay away from sativas and stick with indica dominant strains. As much as I would love to do a greenhouse I don't have the time or space to do it. Its definitely a high risk/reward grow when you're learning the way. I hope it improves for you. I would surgically remove all of those moldy buds and look into a sulphur burner to save what you can. Looks like dehums are not an option for you since the roof is off your greenhouse. Good luck cruzer.

billcollector99 said:

I got some really fast flowerers down here Cruze, some 50 day strains if you are interested...

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Really? Sure man, I sent you a PM.

Shwagbag said:

Sorry about the mold dude! Fast finishers definitely the key in a greenhouse, I would stay away from sativas and stick with indica dominant strains. As much as I would love to do a greenhouse I don't have the time or space to do it. Its definitely a high risk/reward grow when you're learning the way. I hope it improves for you. I would surgically remove all of those moldy buds and look into a sulphur burner to save what you can. Looks like dehums are not an option for you since the roof is off your greenhouse. Good luck cruzer.

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Yep, I think you are right, fast finishers are the way to go. I'm not going to leave the roof off, I'm gonna cover it with plastic sheeting and I have a small dehum but its way to small for the area so I am checking craigslist for a larger one. Probably mount it in the wall so I can keep the heat out. I built a sulphur burner, didnt know it killed mold, I did it for Powdery mildew. Thanks man.

cruzer101 said:

Really? Sure man, I sent you a PM.


Yep, I think you are right, fast finishers are the way to go. I'm not going to leave the roof off, I'm gonna cover it with plastic sheeting and I have a small dehum but its way to small for the area so I am checking craigslist for a larger one. Probably mount it in the wall so I can keep the heat out. I built a sulphur burner, didnt know it killed mold, I did it for Powdery mildew. Thanks man.

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Nice! Sulphur should help with both mold and powdery mildew. Run as many dehums as you have to in order to keep your humidity to 50-60% and you should be golden as long as you get the mold out of there. A friend of mine just found some mold in his GH. I've been telling him for weeks to move more air and run multiple dehums. He ignored my advice and ended up getting some mold but hopefully he will get it in check. You greenhouse growers put too much time and effort into these plants to lose them to mold late in the game. Get your humidity down so we can see the happy ending to this story!

Ahh, too bad about your friends buds.
I have a humidity control in my cap air-3 controller that runs a massive fan on the floor pointing up through the canopy towards the vent so its not like I haven't thought of it.
I got it set at 50 and it runs in the morning but I'm afraid all it does is pulls wet air in there.

I been looking at dehumidifiers, looks like I will need one for a basement or one for low temps cause it gets in the low 40's out there in the winter but now I got a couple questions for someone who has one of these. I don't want the heat in the summer so I assume if mounted through a wall the heat would be outside. But is the intake on the front of these things? Is it standard? If the intake is on the back that wont work... I guess I could get off my ass and go to a store and look at them.

cruzer101 said:

Ahh, too bad about your friends buds.
I have a humidity control in my cap air-3 controller that runs a massive fan on the floor pointing up through the canopy towards the vent so its not like I haven't thought of it.
I got it set at 50 and it runs in the morning but I'm afraid all it does is pulls wet air in there.

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Yep that would be my concern too that the air coming in is just as humid if not more than the air in the greenhouse. I noticed that you def had good air circ.... Greenhouse growing is a completely different demon than the controlled environment of indoor growing that's for sure!

Well Cruz i run a dehumidifier in the summer because my grow is in the basement,i have yet to see any heat gain from it in my temps, though it is a small unit.they are self contained so they would be hard to adapt ducting to them. Mine has greating on the front for suction and discharge, they are not that powerful from what i have seen so i would most deff try to keep it inside the space you are dehumidifying, also keep in mind as humidity decreases so do temps respectively.

In your case maybe you can find an inline unit for your air ducting? Also you may be able to rig one up yourself with a chiller of some sort and copper tubing wrapped around your inline air duct. Then you would just have to makeyour air duct turn up after leaving the chiller so and condensed water could drain out the bottom of the duct.

Only advice i would give is get one that can discharge to a hose! Empting the bucket twice a day blows!

I run 1 when needed but as lonestand says the heat off it is minimal the model i have i can set the fan on it to blow the air in 3 directions or have it move up and down.