Growing after Dispensaries are Open

personified

personified

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Chronicseeker said:
With the Nazi politicians and police departments, I don't blame people who do not want to list their actual grow address.
Im not advocating this in anyway because the laws clearly define these regulations; but it would seem a $150 fine for peace of mind that those who are above the law will not be kicking down your door for growing a plant legally under state law seems minimal.
The states does not want to play by the rules of the law and their actions/handling of AMMA has sadly set themselves up for scenarios like these.
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Man I am trying to find an article to match the news broadcast I was speaking with the apratment rented next door. This entire post has all ready been indexed by google. WOW!! DBL WOW!! Still looking so I can follow up and find out if they were actually prosecuted; I know they were raided.
 
personified

personified

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irieie said:
Failure to notify dhs of change of address within 10 business days is a 150$ fine and all other provisions under the law are upheld ie cardholder rights.
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Hey irieie I am curious were did you find the $150 fine? Or how did you come to that conclusion? Not saying your wrong but I can not confirm either way. I went quiclky through the faq and did not see it. However my mom used to say I look like I wipe my but soo........direct me if you would.

I wanted to get a straight answer from AZDHS they can not even give me one. At one point you will read the operator says NO they would not lose the privilage to grow as you mentioned.....then it is up to the police...then if necessary.

Notice how I then get even more specific....They do not want to give any type of answer they know they are screwing us until we challenge them and they lose. BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
personified

personified

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Operator 25 4:16:23 PM

Hello, my name is Operator 25, Please wait...I'm reviewing your question and will respond shortly. You can also find answers to some of the most frequently asked questions by visiting our FAQs page.

No. They would only be revoked if they were not following the rules and statues.


4:21:01 PM

Sorry if I seem a little slow. Is that not a violation of the rules and statues under immediate disclosure?

Operator 25 4:21:29 PM

Are you referring to the apartment number?

4:21:36 PM

yes

I live here in my app and grow here. Except now I am growing there


Operator 25 4:23:30 PM

If you want to report someone you will need to contact the local law enforcement. We do not have a unit that goes out to and investigates those things.

4:23:38 PM

no not at all

I just want to understand. I have a bet that say they lose the right


another says it is a fine


Operator 25 4:24:43 PM

You will need to contact your local law enforcement with those concerns.

4:25:00 PM

do they issue the license to grow?

do they revocke the privlage?


Or is there only job to arrest a violation of distribution


last i remeber they do not just like judges do not make those calls


you are the rule maker


so I need clarification of the rule


Operator 25 4:26:30 PM

When they report to us that there has been a violation, we would revoke if necessary.

4:26:45 PM

define if necessary

Operator 25 4:27:48 PM

You can read thru the rules and statues on our website at www.azdhs.gov/medicalmarijuana

4:28:56 PM

ok so what your saying is....just like many of the rules created that are not based on the prop only humbles interpretation then it needs to be defined by a judge if Humble has overstpped his boundries

I jus tneed to know what I have to do to get the answer.


Operator 25 4:30:13 PM

I did not say any of that sir. You can call the manager when she gets in tomorrow morning. Her name is Tina (602) 364-1754. Have a great evening.
 
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compassionatecaregiver

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achiever420 said:
I've had this argument with Personified before he dosen't seem to get it. Getting caught with any greenery on the Indian reservation will land you in some serious trouble. After they are done seizing any valuable property you have when you are caught they will hand you over to the Feds. There was an article in the AZ republic just they other day about how the US Attorney's office in AZ was cracking down big time on crimes committed on the Res and I am sure the Feds would love nothing more than to send you to a federal prison for an extended stay for your trouble.

Edit: I see your intention is to find someone who lives on the reservation but not actually grow there. I which case you might be ok if you could find someone who lives outside of the 25 mile radius. Still I am sure you could find people outside the 25mile radius who aren't on Indian land. I'm sure there wont be any dispensaries out in the remote areas of the state were you might be able to find patients.
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Acheiver, what you and others seem to not be getting is that he never said anything about bringing any greenery onto the rez. I think his plan could work great -
The fact is that a caregiver can grow for a patient if the PATIENT is outside of the 25 miles, but it doesn't matter where the caregiver lives or grows as long as it's in an enclosed, locked facility. The indian nation may not recognize the card or the azmma statutes, but the DHS will still issue a card to any qualifying patient anywhere in AZ even if they live on the rez, and if they are outside the 25 miles then they will give authorization to cultivate to the patient OR to any qualified person that they designate as their caregiver. So if the patient lives on the rez, the caregiver can cultivate for them right next door to Phoenix PD, and it would be legal. It wouldn't be very convenient for the patient but as long as the patient always visits the caregiver to use the meds, and neither of them ever takes any meds onto the rez, then nobody would ever be at risk or be in violation of the law.
 
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irieie

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No wonder they told you to get lost. You were a prick for no reason to some person who is just trying to do their job. Go read the law. No one else is gonna read the law for you unless you hire a lawyer. This ones free anymore and I'll be billing you
36-2808.*Notifications to department; civil penalty(Caution: 1998 Prop. 105 applies)A. A registered qualifying patient shall notify the department within ten days of any change in the registered qualifying patient's name, address, designated caregiver or preference regarding who may cultivate marijuana for the registered qualifying patient or if the registered qualifying patient ceases to have his debilitating medical condition.B. A registered designated caregiver or nonprofit medical marijuana dispensary agent shall notify the department within ten days of any change in his name or address.C. When a cardholder notifies the department of any changes listed in subsection A but remains eligible under this chapter, the department shall issue the cardholder a new registry identification card with new random 20-digit alphanumeric identification numbers within ten days of receiving the updated information and a ten-dollar fee. If the person notifying the department is a registered qualifying patient, the department shall also issue his registered designated caregiver, if any, a new registry identification card within ten days of receiving the updated information.D. If the registered qualifying patient's certifying physician notifies the department in writing that either the registered qualifying patient has ceased to suffer from a debilitating medical condition or that the physician no longer believes the patient would receive therapeutic or palliative benefit from the medical use of marijuana, the card is void upon notification by the department to the qualifying patient.E. When a registered qualifying patient ceases to be a registered qualifying patient or changes registered designated caregiver, the department shall promptly notify the former designated caregiver that his duties and rights under this chapter as to that qualifying patient expire fifteen days after notification by the department is sent.F. A registered qualifying patient, designated caregiver or nonprofit medical marijuana dispensary agent who fails to comply with subsection A or B is subject to a civil penalty of not more than one hundred fifty dollars.
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/36/02808.htm&Title=36&DocType=ARS
 
personified

personified

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Ya know I have no tolerance of our government PERIOD!!! Sorry I do not remeber that in the law havve not read it in the last two years. I will stop being a prick to our government when they stop FUCKING ME. DIG?

Now I am truley sorry your panties are in an up roar, put a cork in it, and wait a week. Caaaan you heaaaar me now?
 
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compassionatecaregiver

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why all the arguing, i think we can all agree that his plan would work and so would irieie's. personally i'd rather avoid violating any part of the amma, even if it's just a $150 fine. but both options are great ways to keep your grow rights
 
HB DC

HB DC

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personified said:
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Operator 25 4:16:23 PM

Hello, my name is Operator 25, Please wait...I'm reviewing your question and will respond shortly. You can also find answers to some of the most frequently asked questions by visiting our FAQs page.

No. They would only be revoked if they were not following the rules and statues.


4:21:01 PM

Sorry if I seem a little slow. Is that not a violation of the rules and statues under immediate disclosure?

Operator 25 4:21:29 PM

Are you referring to the apartment number?

4:21:36 PM

yes

I live here in my app and grow here. Except now I am growing there


Operator 25 4:23:30 PM

If you want to report someone you will need to contact the local law enforcement. We do not have a unit that goes out to and investigates those things.

4:23:38 PM

no not at all

I just want to understand. I have a bet that say they lose the right


another says it is a fine


Operator 25 4:24:43 PM

You will need to contact your local law enforcement with those concerns.

4:25:00 PM

do they issue the license to grow?

do they revocke the privlage?


Or is there only job to arrest a violation of distribution


last i remeber they do not just like judges do not make those calls


you are the rule maker


so I need clarification of the rule


Operator 25 4:26:30 PM

When they report to us that there has been a violation, we would revoke if necessary.

4:26:45 PM

define if necessary

Operator 25 4:27:48 PM

You can read thru the rules and statues on our website at www.azdhs.gov/medicalmarijuana

4:28:56 PM

ok so what your saying is....just like many of the rules created that are not based on the prop only humbles interpretation then it needs to be defined by a judge if Humble has overstpped his boundries

I jus tneed to know what I have to do to get the answer.


Operator 25 4:30:13 PM

I did not say any of that sir. You can call the manager when she gets in tomorrow morning. Her name is Tina (602) 364-1754. Have a great evening.
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There is a team out looking for rule breakers... SGT or LT of PHX PD - "Compliance Officer" I believe is the name!
 
personified

personified

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I am sure they will be the ones inspecting the dispensaries also ,believe it or not, they do it at bars to check for non-taxed liquor. While they think they are the LAW they are agents of the state basically the ears and the eyes of the court.
 
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