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killer chronix

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Since the only fresh air I will be bringing into the room will be going directly through my hoods and out my exhaust. Do you think humidity will be an issue once I get some plants in there? also, do you think it would be safe to exhaust air from the hoods out of a window rather then out of a chimney stack? it about 15ft closer to a window then the chimney stack. and lastly if humidity is an issue and I add a dehumidifier that will bring up my temp inside of the tent, how hot is too hot if I add co2? Again, I would like to say thanks for your help.
 
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djshorty06

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phillipchristian said:
No worried bud! I'm on the case. How many plants do you want to grow? How tall do you normally grow your plants? Can I make the veg room smaller than the flower?
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How much smaller? I Have been letting the plants get some what big. My tangerine dream x og kush was about 2ft tall when I sent her into flowering. I have been trying few plants but letting them Veg longer. Trying out different ways to get bigger yields but you the man and any advice I can get from you I am willing to try out! Thanks again
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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killer chronix said:
Since the only fresh air I will be bringing into the room will be going directly through my hoods and out my exhaust. Do you think humidity will be an issue once I get some plants in there? also, do you think it would be safe to exhaust air from the hoods out of a window rather then out of a chimney stack? it about 15ft closer to a window then the chimney stack. and lastly if humidity is an issue and I add a dehumidifier that will bring up my temp inside of the tent, how hot is too hot if I add co2? Again, I would like to say thanks for your help.
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I think you'll be fine as far as humidity if your hoods are sealed correctly. Even if they are not you shouldn't have a problem. I would exhaust them out the window too if the chimney is that far away.

If you have a small space then just get a 30 pint dehumidifier. They hardly add any heat to a room. Plus you can run them drain to waste so you are not constantly changing the collection bucket. If you don't have anywhere to drain it to with the hose then put it on a stand and put a bucket underneath it. Collect the water and use it to water your plants. It's basically distilled water with a VERY low ppm.

With Co2 you want your temps around 82-86. Really don't want to hit 90.
 
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phillipchristian

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djshorty06 said:
How much smaller? I Have been letting the plants get some what big. My tangerine dream x og kush was about 2ft tall when I sent her into flowering. I have been trying few plants but letting them Veg longer. Trying out different ways to get bigger yields but you the man and any advice I can get from you I am willing to try out! Thanks again
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Can you answer these questions?

You have 1 600w in your flower room?
You use a T5 in your veg room?
Do you have moms or do you grow from seed?
Do you have a/c or just intake/exhaust fans?
How many plants do you want to grow? I mean, If you are vegging plants to be 2' tall then you really can only fit about 4 of them under 600w.
 
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djshorty06

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phillipchristian said:
Can you answer these questions?

You have 1 600w in your flower room? Currently I have a 400w at the moment
You use a T5 in your veg room? yes
Do you have moms or do you grow from seed? I take clones from the plants before I switch them to 12/12
Do you have a/c or just intake/exhaust fans? I have 1 8" exhaust fan
How many plants do you want to grow? I mean, If you are vegging plants to be 2' tall then you really can only fit about 4 of them under 600w- If more lights are needed I will get them. I was thinking about getting 2 600w.
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phillipchristian

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djshorty06 said:
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You basically have to fit all of this into a 4x14 space? What's gonna hurt you is the 4' depth. No matte rhow you set it up you really can only use 1 light in there. I would do like you were originally thinking and just seperate it into 2 rooms that are 4x7. That will give you 3' to have the door open into each room then in your flower room just have 4 plants under a 600w light. You can grow them as big as you need to to fill up the area. You put anymore lights in there and you won't be able to get around the plants. Then use your 400w for your veg room.
 
bigsexyshaned

bigsexyshaned

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Well I was planning on just doing on dehumidifier but if you suggest doing one in each tent then that's what i will do. I also have a quick question on my exhaust. Seeing as how I am running two 600's in each tent now I only have a 400 cfm fan acting ad both the exhaust and cooling the lights. Do you think this is enough or should i get another small intake fan for only the lights. There in 6" cool tube by the way. Imy set up will look like this. Filter==600==600==fan==.
= equals ducting. Look good to you?
Thank you so much for all the help too I appreciate it brother!
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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bigsexyshaned said:
Well I was planning on just doing on dehumidifier but if you suggest doing one in each tent then that's what i will do. I also have a quick question on my exhaust. Seeing as how I am running two 600's in each tent now I only have a 400 cfm fan acting ad both the exhaust and cooling the lights. Do you think this is enough or should i get another small intake fan for only the lights. There in 6" cool tube by the way. Imy set up will look like this. Filter==600==600==fan==.
= equals ducting. Look good to you?
Thank you so much for all the help too I appreciate it brother!
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I think your fine with the fan you have. Especially since the lights are in cooltubes. Just as long as it's not one of those cheap fans that actually only pulls about half its rated CFM. Then I would just upgrade to better fans. The setup looks fine just as long as you are pulling air through you filter and lights and not pushing it.

Always glad to help.
 
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djshorty06

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phillipchristian said:
You basically have to fit all of this into a 4x14 space? What's gonna hurt you is the 4' depth. No matte rhow you set it up you really can only use 1 light in there. I would do like you were originally thinking and just seperate it into 2 rooms that are 4x7. That will give you 3' to have the door open into each room then in your flower room just have 4 plants under a 600w light. You can grow them as big as you need to to fill up the area. You put anymore lights in there and you won't be able to get around the plants. Then use your 400w for your veg room.
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I was thinking about making like barn doors that swing out that way I wont kill space from the door opening in.
 
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phillipchristian

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djshorty06 said:
I was thinking about making like barn doors that swing out that way I wont kill space from the door opening in.
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I gotcha. That's a good idea. In that case I would make the flower room 8' and the veg room 6'. Then just use the 400w in your veg room and 2 600w lights in your flower room. You may still need a little extra light in your veg room if you are going to grow them to 2' in there. Maybe some T5's hung horizontally on the walls or another 400w. Up to you.
 
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djshorty06

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phillipchristian said:
I gotcha. That's a good idea. In that case I would make the flower room 8' and the veg room 6'. Then just use the 400w in your veg room and 2 600w lights in your flower room. You may still need a little extra light in your veg room if you are going to grow them to 2' in there. Maybe some T5's hung horizontally on the walls or another 400w. Up to you.
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Good idea! Am just trying out different styles and methods until I find one that will give me the best results and yield.
 
Sencha

Sencha

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Here are the final numbers....Veg room is 9'7"x8'11"x7'9".......Bloom room is 9'9"x8'11"x7'9"

Here is a drawing of the veg room and vent scheme. Fresh air into both rooms will be passive and will share the same fresh air. I'm pushing ~250 CFM into the veg tent. I'm pulling ~400 CFM into the veg room, via sealed light cooling. I'm pulling ~750 CFM into the flower room, via the carbon scrubber. This gives the veg. tent positive pressure, while maintaining negative pressure in both the veg and bloom room.

I have not installed the 6" flex (passive Bloom) yet. And the final Veg wall isn't up. Everything else is done. I still need to buy a couple 24"x80" doors.

-Will the 6" flex, hanging down, be a good enough light trap?
-If I buy some used doors, can I make my own door jams fairly easily?

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phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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Sencha said:
Here are the final numbers....Veg room is 9'7"x8'11"x7'9".......Bloom room is 9'9"x8'11"x7'9"

Here is a drawing of the veg room and vent scheme. Fresh air into both rooms will be passive and will share the same fresh air. I'm pushing ~250 CFM into the veg tent. I'm pulling ~400 CFM into the veg room, via sealed light cooling. I'm pulling ~750 CFM into the flower room, via the carbon scrubber. This gives the veg. tent positive pressure, while maintaining negative pressure in both the veg and bloom room.

I have not installed the 6" flex (passive Bloom) yet. And the final Veg wall isn't up. Everything else is done. I still need to buy a couple 24"x80" doors.

-Will the 6" flex, hanging down, be a good enough light trap?
-If I buy some used doors, can I make my own door jams fairly easily?

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Hey Sencha, i would put another curve in your flex ducting; that will trap the light much better. Let it hang and then curve the bottom part and pin it up somehow. You want 2-3 curves if at all possible. If you have the tools then making a door jamb is pretty easy. You can probably get the wood precut and then all you'll need is a hammer, saw, and wood chisel.
 
Sencha

Sencha

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Chisel for routing the door for the hinge? We have a local recycle center that sells used solid core doors. The door I buy will likely be hinged; or at least routed for them.

I love my new grow room. I think I'll be able to cool 1800 watts all summer with 2-3 fan upgrades. I'm willing to run the room around 98F for a month or two.
 
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phillipchristian

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Sencha said:
Chisel for routing the door for the hinge? We have a local recycle center that sells used solid core doors. The door I buy will likely be hinged; or at least routed for them.

I love my new grow room. I think I'll be able to cool 1800 watts all summer with 2-3 fan upgrades. I'm willing to run the room around 98F for a month or two.
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You need to carve out the slot for the latch in the jamb
 
HydroDawg421

HydroDawg421

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MonsterBuzz said:
Looking for some pointers on a split ac. I would really like to stay under 1000 but i could go slightly higher if the unit is worth it.

When I was looking them up I found way more than I expected so I hoped to get some opinions as to mfg., features and anything else a newbie might over look.

My room is/will be a sealed 7x9x8 on a north wall with no windows with 3 600w (these are sealed by drawing the air from outside the east wall and exiting it on the outside of west wall). Insulation is r12 or better all around. co2 is by 50# bottles controlled by a cap controller. Plus a 40pint dehumidifier. Ballasts are digi. and will be outside the room.

I'll add more info on my room if it helps to make a more informed opinion. From what I found so far is 9kbtu unit should do the trick...using some formulas I found around but would it be more advised to get a 12kbtu?

Now my room is not up and running yet so IF I have to have a tech come out I have no problem with that if it saves me money :) I did see a couple of splits that have the charged lines and say you dont need a tech... but they were like 2700 and thats way more than I would care to spend. So do you have a mfg that you would suggest...options that you would look for and any additional items I should get with it? And a good place to buy from?

Thanks for any insight you can lend!
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I just ordered a 24,000 BTU mini split for $1,024 from http://www.heatandcool.com/

You can never have too much cold air. I would get an 18 or 24k BTU for this setup. That way you can add more lights and not have to upgrade your a/c. This is called scalability !!!
 
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