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[phillipchristian]

You have any suggestions for a direct drain dehumidifier? Its for a 500 sq ft room and I have two 4x8 tents and 3x3 also. Humidity is 63 rite now I haven't started yet but I just got everything set up today trying to get everything fine tuned before I start. I had problems with mold before I even thought about starting something here I scrubbed the walls and sprayed the carpets with water that was phd super high. There was only one spot that looked like had mold but I know it spreads really easy so I'm hoping the dehumidifier will help keep the mold at bay if i missed any.

I use Danby dehumidifiers. I also know that Sunpentown and DeLonghi are great units as well. Are you putting one in each tent or in the room the tents are in? If you are putting one in each tent then go with the little 30pint Danby. If it's for the room then go with a 70pint. You can also put dehumidifier on a stand and drain them to a reservoir. Then you can use that water for your plants. It basically comes out at 15-25ppm so it's SUPER clean. Just make sure to wash out the air filters every once and a while on the dehumidifier.

 

[MonsterBuzz]

Looking for some pointers on a split ac. I would really like to stay under 1000 but i could go slightly higher if the unit is worth it.

When I was looking them up I found way more than I expected so I hoped to get some opinions as to mfg., features and anything else a newbie might over look.

My room is/will be a sealed 7x9x8 on a north wall with no windows with 3 600w (these are sealed by drawing the air from outside the east wall and exiting it on the outside of west wall). Insulation is r12 or better all around. co2 is by 50# bottles controlled by a cap controller. Plus a 40pint dehumidifier. Ballasts are digi. and will be outside the room.

I'll add more info on my room if it helps to make a more informed opinion. From what I found so far is 9kbtu unit should do the trick...using some formulas I found around but would it be more advised to get a 12kbtu?

Now my room is not up and running yet so IF I have to have a tech come out I have no problem with that if it saves me money I did see a couple of splits that have the charged lines and say you dont need a tech... but they were like 2700 and thats way more than I would care to spend. So do you have a mfg that you would suggest...options that you would look for and any additional items I should get with it? And a good place to buy from?

Thanks for any insight you can lend!

 

[phillipchristian]

Looking for some pointers on a split ac. I would really like to stay under 1000 but i could go slightly higher if the unit is worth it.

When I was looking them up I found way more than I expected so I hoped to get some opinions as to mfg., features and anything else a newbie might over look.

My room is/will be a sealed 7x9x8 on a north wall with no windows with 3 600w (these are sealed by drawing the air from outside the east wall and exiting it on the outside of west wall). Insulation is r12 or better all around. co2 is by 50# bottles controlled by a cap controller. Plus a 40pint dehumidifier. Ballasts are digi. and will be outside the room.

I'll add more info on my room if it helps to make a more informed opinion. From what I found so far is 9kbtu unit should do the trick...using some formulas I found around but would it be more advised to get a 12kbtu?

Now my room is not up and running yet so IF I have to have a tech come out I have no problem with that if it saves me money I did see a couple of splits that have the charged lines and say you dont need a tech... but they were like 2700 and thats way more than I would care to spend. So do you have a mfg that you would suggest...options that you would look for and any additional items I should get with it? And a good place to buy from?

Thanks for any insight you can lend!

Hey man, try www.minisplitwarhouse.com They have a ton under $1000 and even a few under $800. I'm no expert on mini splits but I think you should go with 12,000btu. You will make up the small price difference on you electricity bill in no time because the a/c will run much more efficiently which will in turn make it last longer. As fo recommendations as to manufacturer I'm not really the guy to ask because I've never owned any of the models I see advertised. I've had only LG models and they have all worked great but they were for homes and not grows. Maybe someone else can chime in.

 

[Sencha]

Now that my bloom room is framed in, I'm doubting my choice to run 2-600s and 1-1k in it. My new Lumatek 1000 watt ballast came today. Final demension is 9'9"x8'10

I know it will all fit. It's a matter of venting the lights with minimal bends in the duct work. I wanted to buy a XXXtreme 8" reflector for my 1k but I might be better off with a smaller reflector.

Any thoughts?

 

[phillipchristian]

How are you setting your plants up Sencha? In an "L" shape? Maybe just run the Lumatek at 600w for now. I agree man, in small spaces the XXXL's just aren't worth it. They are huge and end up causing problems trying to move them or get around them. Check out the Radiant 8".

 

[mike91sr]

Hey man just wanted to run a couple ideas past you. Planning a 5x10x8 room, no co2, inside a cooled room like a mechanical lung. 2600-3000w, ucdwc system w 8 plants.

Gastanker was nice enough to come up witha couple CAD plans for what I was thinking. There is 1x1k with 1x600w on each side, vented together and scrubbed. Also, the plant spacing is because each side has a 400w bare vert bulb hanging to help with the bottom fluff. You can kinda see the fixture that represents it(the circle) behind the front fans. Gastanker has a thread with all the details of the setup and more pictures, footcandle stats, etc. Really some pretty cool shit.

My original plan was 2x1k with 1x600w MH in between. I'm in the middle of my first run with a 1k, and so far I'm still seeing more fluff than I'd like, hence the new plans. Any suggestions/ideas/criticisms are welcomed!



This shows the vert bulbs better, and has specs for the bottom of canopy area

 

[phillipchristian]

Hey man just wanted to run a couple ideas past you. Planning a 5x10x8 room, no co2, inside a cooled room like a mechanical lung. 2600-3000w, ucdwc system w 8 plants.

Gastanker was nice enough to come up witha couple CAD plans for what I was thinking. There is 1x1k with 1x600w on each side, vented together and scrubbed. Also, the plant spacing is because each side has a 400w bare vert bulb hanging to help with the bottom fluff. You can kinda see the fixture that represents it(the circle) behind the front fans. Gastanker has a thread with all the details of the setup and more pictures, footcandle stats, etc. Really some pretty cool shit.

My original plan was 2x1k with 1x600w MH in between. I'm in the middle of my first run with a 1k, and so far I'm still seeing more fluff than I'd like, hence the new plans. Any suggestions/ideas/criticisms are welcomed!

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This shows the vert bulbs better, and has specs for the bottom of canopy area

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Hey man, welcome to the thread. Yea, I've stopped by Gastankers thread a few times and talked with him. He's got some really cool shit in that lighting program. I downloaded it and piggybacked it to my autoCad 3D program. Still messing around with it but it'e even better when you have the full capabilities of autoCad 3D to back it up. Let's you put a lot more design specific items in the room. Very cool what he's doing over there. I don't have the patience to be on autoCad. I have to be on it enough for work. Plus I only have it on my office computer. The full versions are really big programs. Not meant for my laptop.

Seems like you have a pretty good plan there. Any plant over 4' and you should really lollipop them anyway. What you trim off the bottom will grow double on top. Plus it allows for airflow over the soil. I'm guessing your plants right now are pretty big if you have fluff problems with a 1000w. I hang vert bulbs in my room for the exact same reason. 400w MH vertical for every 1000w HPS. If you have adequate cooling and ventilation you should be able to keep a 1000w light as close as 14" from your plants.

I really can't tell where the door is from the drawing but with a 5x10 room you could easily do more than 8 plants if you wanted to. I think you will be fine with 2 x 1000w lights. They have a footprint that will cover that 10' wall easily when side by side. Essentially giving you a grow area of 10'x5'. I would drop in 3 vertical 400w MH, lollipop your plants, and also rotate them every few days so that they get good coverage. I've also seen guys use T5's hung vertically along the walls with great success as supplemental lighting. That might be something to look into.

 

[mike91sr]

Yeah I was pissed when I found out it doesn't work on Mac's (my only personal computers). I have all sorts of software converting software...no use. Ah well, good people RIU are always helpful.

Good advice, thanks. The plan has no door, I was thinking of having an open front. I can't wait to upgrade from the tent I'm in now, but the full access is really nice. Being that I'm not running co2, light leaks are my only concern, not air-tightness. I have a 750cfm fan right now and no issues adding another, so negative pressure is definitely strong enough for smell.

Right now my plants are about 4' tall(not including medium) and I trimmed the bottom foot or so off. I'm not a huge fan of growing plants so tall that I just cut off half of what I grew so I stopped there, but I do still see a few inches of fluff. I'd thought of supplemental lighting, but I couldn't justify anything less than 5-600w for the space and I'd rather just have more main HID lighting.

Tahoe OG in the waterfarms right as we were trimming the other night. Sorry no better pics of the lower parts of the plants. The right half is mixed mediums with a bare 600 to fill space so don't worry about that lol.

 

[Sencha]

My lights will be in an L-shape. Air in from the veg room cooling my lights and venting to dead space above my drop ceiling. ~400 CFM for now. Keep in mind there's a 4x8 tent in the veg room. 6" flex from the tent, through the bloom wall, into a 450 CFM fan, and out through my 3 sealed lights. I'll also use 2- 6" flex passive into the bloom room. Flex hanging down to create a light trap(this works right?). I'll have a negative pressure room room with the 700 CFM extracting through the Phresh filter.

Since I plan on air cooling both rooms I've decided to grab a new 600 watt bulb and run the new ballast at 600 watts.

That helps the reflector choice because I already own a Luminare 8" and like it, I'll just buy another one.

I'll post an updated sketch tomorrow.

 

[phillipchristian]

Yeah I was pissed when I found out it doesn't work on Mac's (my only personal computers). I have all sorts of software converting software...no use. Ah well, good people RIU are always helpful.

Good advice, thanks. The plan has no door, I was thinking of having an open front. I can't wait to upgrade from the tent I'm in now, but the full access is really nice. Being that I'm not running co2, light leaks are my only concern, not air-tightness. I have a 750cfm fan right now and no issues adding another, so negative pressure is definitely strong enough for smell.

Right now my plants are about 4' tall(not including medium) and I trimmed the bottom foot or so off. I'm not a huge fan of growing plants so tall that I just cut off half of what I grew so I stopped there, but I do still see a few inches of fluff. I'd thought of supplemental lighting, but I couldn't justify anything less than 5-600w for the space and I'd rather just have more main HID lighting.

Tahoe OG in the waterfarms right as we were trimming the other night. Sorry no better pics of the lower parts of the plants. The right half is mixed mediums with a bare 600 to fill space so don't worry about that lol.
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I bet if you cut off another 6-8" of the bottom you would get that much more on the tops. I tried it a few years back ona side by side and you may lose 10-12g of fluff on the bottom but I think you get 15-20g more on the top buds.

Plants look great man. Keep us posted.

 

[djshorty06]

Was wondering it you could help me on a design. Was growing out of tent and not have a 5ft wide x 13 1/2ft long space that I want to have a veg and flower room in. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[phillipchristian]

Was wondering it you could help me on a design. Was growing out of tent and not have a 5ft wide x 13 1/2ft long space that I want to have a veg and flower room in. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Need more info to help out with a design. Like how many doors and windows in the room? What style grower are you; soil or hydro? What size plants do you grow and how many? What equipment do you have or are buying? etc...

 

[djshorty06]

Sorry about that. Growing in soil. Would like to have one window per room and two doors. Currently growing out of 5 gallon pots with later plans to move to bigger pots like 7 gallon pots. I have T5s in the Veg room and was planning on getting some 600w for the flower room. Been doing SCROG as of lately in the flower room.

 

[Sencha]

Is standard, indoor/outdoor, caulk light proof?

 

[killer chronix]

Wondering if I could get a little insight on the best way to set up my room. I just recently upgraded and added a second room for flower. It's grow lab 4x8x8 tent with 2 radiant 6's, 2 600 watt lamps, an 8" inline fan, 6" inline fan, and a 6x20" phresh filter. I set it up so the 8" inline is pulling fresh air from outside Through the hoods then exhausting out the chimney stack of the house. I mounted the 6" right to the filter to scrub the air inside of the tent. It is sealed and I do plan on adding co2, is this the best way to set up or is there a better way.

Thanks.

 

[phillipchristian]

Sorry about that. Growing in soil. Would like to have one window per room and two doors. Currently growing out of 5 gallon pots with later plans to move to bigger pots like 7 gallon pots. I have T5s in the Veg room and was planning on getting some 600w for the flower room. Been doing SCROG as of lately in the flower room.

I'm really confused man. You have a 5' wide space; how are you going to have 2 rooms with 2 doors? Am I reading that wrong? Can you give me more info? Is this halfo of a garage or the back of a basement? Are you building this yourself? Can I put a seperate door for each room (i.e. seperate entrance for the flower room and the veg room). I'll start drawing something up.

 

[phillipchristian]

Is standard, indoor/outdoor, caulk light proof?

Caulk comes in a ton of colors. Should be able to find a dark shade. I would think anything but clear would be light proof.

 

[phillipchristian]

Wondering if I could get a little insight on the best way to set up my room. I just recently upgraded and added a second room for flower. It's grow lab 4x8x8 tent with 2 radiant 6's, 2 600 watt lamps, an 8" inline fan, 6" inline fan, and a 6x20" phresh filter. I set it up so the 8" inline is pulling fresh air from outside Through the hoods then exhausting out the chimney stack of the house. I mounted the 6" right to the filter to scrub the air inside of the tent. It is sealed and I do plan on adding co2, is this the best way to set up or is there a better way.

Thanks.

That's exactly how I would set it up man. Nice job. The only suggestion I would make is maybe picking up a roll of flash tape from the hardware store and making sure your hoods are completely sealed. Will be a pain in the ass everytime you have to clean your bulbs but will keep your room completely sealed. I have heard that the Radiant hoods are pretty well sealed though. I don't know how well they are sealed though cause I have never used them. Another thing to totally reduce the need to clean your glass and bulbs would be to install a filter on the outside of your tent. Most hydro stores sell 6" intake filters. A good HEP one will cost you around $30 and you'll need a flange to attach it to.

 

[djshorty06]

I'm really confused man. You have a 5' wide space; how are you going to have 2 rooms with 2 doors? Am I reading that wrong? Can you give me more info? Is this halfo of a garage or the back of a basement? Are you building this yourself? Can I put a seperate door for each room (i.e. seperate entrance for the flower room and the veg room). I'll start drawing something up.

Am sorry for the confusion. Yes I am going to be custom building this room. The room will be 4ft wide and 14ft picture it like a rectangle. I am going to be using a corner of my garage. Am going to split the room in half to have two rooms which each will measure 4x7. Yes you can add two doors one for the veg and one for the flower. Hope this helps you and sorry for the confusion. Thanks again for all the help.

 

[phillipchristian]

Am sorry for the confusion. Yes I am going to be custom building this room. The room will be 4ft wide and 14ft picture it like a rectangle. I am going to be using a corner of my garage. Am going to split the room in half to have two rooms which each will measure 4x7. Yes you can add two doors one for the veg and one for the flower. Hope this helps you and sorry for the confusion. Thanks again for all the help.

No worried bud! I'm on the case. How many plants do you want to grow? How tall do you normally grow your plants? Can I make the veg room smaller than the flower?