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Ganjamann2020

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I found a recipe online for coco, perlite and organic compost and I mixed it at a 3-2-1 ratio. My plant is a bit on the smallish side and the flowering is going slow. I've been feeding it Fox Farms grow big, big bloom, and tiger bloom. Any ideas on where this wrong? I'm about to start some sour diesel af but don't want to germinate until I figure out what went wrong with the white widow AF. Harvest time was supposed 8 weeks supposedly but going longer somehow. Using distilled water with a PPM around 800 after mixing nutes.
 
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altaran

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You can't go by breeder harvest times. They are just a suggestion. And usually those times are flowering times, not from seed times. If you provided some pictures, maybe someone could give you some suggestions or ideas. Without pictures, you are asking people to help you blindly. :-)
 
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Ganjamann2020

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altaran said:
You can't go by breeder harvest times. They are just a suggestion. And usually those times are flowering times, not from seed times. If you provided some pictures, maybe someone could give you some suggestions or ideas. Without pictures, you are asking people to help you blindly. :-)
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Ok I was worried, I pulled some yellow leaves from the bottom last week and was scared I stressed it.
 
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Ive never had a AF that didn't lose some bottom leaves by the end. Has it been flowering for 8 weeks, or has it been 8 weeks since it popped ground?
 
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Ganjamann2020

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altaran said:
You can't go by breeder harvest times. They are just a suggestion. And usually those times are flowering times, not from seed times. If you provided some pictures, maybe someone could give you some suggestions or ideas. Without pictures, you are asking people to help you blindly. :-)
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altaran

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Every seed/grow is different. You have to work with your enviroment and find what works best for you.
 
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Ganjamann2020 said:
I found a recipe online for coco, perlite and organic compost and I mixed it at a 3-2-1 ratio. My plant is a bit on the smallish side and the flowering is going slow. I've been feeding it Fox Farms grow big, big bloom, and tiger bloom. Any ideas on where this wrong? I'm about to start some sour diesel af but don't want to germinate until I figure out what went wrong with the white widow AF. Harvest time was supposed 8 weeks supposedly but going longer somehow. Using distilled water with a PPM around 800 after mixing nutes.
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3 parts coco.
2 parts perlite..
Nice.
1 part organic compost..
Now you don't know what to feed it because you've taken an amazing medium and turned it into a guessing game.

If you want to grow organics, learn about living soil, there's so much information out there.

If you want to grow coco, feed it everyday or multiple times a day with a good base nutrient at a ph 5.8-6.2, then you'll reap the benefits of coco. It's not a guessing game then.

Or follow some tit on YouTube who thinks he knows better than everyone else and burns the life out of his plants.

How long your plant takes is down to genetics and how its treated and its environment .

How it's treated is how you are feeding it, with what, how often.

The environment is , is there enough light, co2, temp and humidity control..

All my 8 week strains go 10 week in good conditions. They're transitioning for a couple of weeks.
 
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Ganjamann2020

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altaran said:
Breeder lied. Generally gonna be at least 8 weeks from when it starts flowering. Maybe an expert will chime in, but from the looks it almost looks like some kind of cal/mag issue.
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Saw the first pistils about 3 weeks ago. I need to start writing this stuff down I guess, hard for an old stoner to remember exact dates lol.
 
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Ganjamann2020

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coreywebster said:
3 parts coco.
2 parts perlite..
Nice.
1 part organic compost..
Now you don't know what to feed it because you've taken an amazing medium and turned it into a guessing game.

If you want to grow organics, learn about living soil, there's so much information out there.

If you want to grow coco, feed it everyday or multiple times a day with a good base nutrient at a ph 5.8-6.2, then you'll reap the benefits of coco. It's not a guessing game then.

Or follow some tit on YouTube who thinks he knows better than everyone else and burns the life out of his plants.

How long your plant takes is down to how its treated and its environment .

How it's treated is how you are feeding it, with what, how often.

The environment is , is there enough light, co2, temp and humidity control..

All my 8 week strains go 10 week in good conditions. They're transitioning for a couple of weeks.
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Thanks, yeah I'm gonna ditch the coco with compost, I'm just going to use it for my blueberry bushes instead.
 
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Ganjamann2020

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Ganjamann2020 said:
Thanks, yeah I'm gonna ditch the coco with compost, I'm just going to use it for my blueberry bushes instead.
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After hearing I shouldn't have used compost I started feeding it on the low side around 300 PPMs last feeding in an attempt to keep from burning it. Maybe I should increase little by little until I find the right solution?
 
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Ganjamann2020

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altaran said:
Every seed/grow is different. You have to work with your enviroment and find what works best for you.
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Yeah only my second grow ever in a tent, third overall, first was a random seed in a cardboard box and it turned out to be male, but it was healthy and all I was using was the blue miracle-gro plant food and dirt from my granddad's garden in a 5 gallon bucket. I think I'm trying too hard now and over complicating the process.
 
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altaran

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Ganjamann2020 said:
Yeah only my second grow ever in a tent, third overall, first was a random seed in a cardboard box and it turned out to be male, but it was healthy and all I was using was the blue miracle-gro plant food and dirt from my granddad's garden in a 5 gallon bucket. I think I'm trying too hard now and over complicating the process.
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Read some of the posts from Budzbuddha, he has some excellent simple container threads. Helped me and others alot.
 
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Ganjamann2020 said:
After hearing I shouldn't have used compost I started feeding it on the low side around 300 PPMs last feeding in an attempt to keep from burning it. Maybe I should increase little by little until I find the right solution?
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It's difficult to say. drain to waste coco can be fed quite high, 1,5 EC in flower is not uncommon and can be adjusted depending on water quality, environment (transpiration) and cultivar. But with the compost you added some randomness to it. How many nutrients does it have? How quickly does it release them? How much is left? Is an observed deficiency/toxicity due to nutrient or pH problems?
Nobody can tell you that so learn to read your plant.

Also it's better to ditch the ppm scale. It's an arbitrary conversion of conductivity to some random number. Conversionsfactors can be anywhere between 0,3 and 1. Just use EC and noone is confused.
 
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Ganjamann2020

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Lou66 said:
It's difficult to say. drain to waste coco can be fed quite high, 1,5 EC in flower is not uncommon and can be adjusted depending on water quality, environment (transpiration) and cultivar. But with the compost you added some randomness to it. How many nutrients does it have? How quickly does it release them? How much is left? Is an observed deficiency/toxicity due to nutrient or pH problems?
Nobody can tell you that so learn to read your plant.

Also it's better to ditch the ppm scale. It's an arbitrary conversion of conductivity to some random number. Conversionsfactors can be anywhere between 0,3 and 1. Just use EC and noone is confused.
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I always use distilled water and haven't fed with anything other than Fox Farms Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom since it started flowering. Plant is on the small side and is flowering slow, first few feeds I started low around 3-400, then doubled it to 8-900 on the last, is it possible the ph is off because it doesn't seem to be drinking as fast as it should? coco and perlite are neutral and the compost I used claimed it was neutral, around 6.5 actually.
 
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Ganjamann2020

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Lou66 said:
It's difficult to say. drain to waste coco can be fed quite high, 1,5 EC in flower is not uncommon and can be adjusted depending on water quality, environment (transpiration) and cultivar. But with the compost you added some randomness to it. How many nutrients does it have? How quickly does it release them? How much is left? Is an observed deficiency/toxicity due to nutrient or pH problems?
Nobody can tell you that so learn to read your plant.

Also it's better to ditch the ppm scale. It's an arbitrary conversion of conductivity to some random number. Conversionsfactors can be anywhere between 0,3 and 1. Just use EC and noone is confused.
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Just going to ride this one out and leave the compost out of my next grow. Maybe my grape vine and my blueberry bushes will like that soil.
 
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Ganjamann2020

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Lou66 said:
It's difficult to say. drain to waste coco can be fed quite high, 1,5 EC in flower is not uncommon and can be adjusted depending on water quality, environment (transpiration) and cultivar. But with the compost you added some randomness to it. How many nutrients does it have? How quickly does it release them? How much is left? Is an observed deficiency/toxicity due to nutrient or pH problems?
Nobody can tell you that so learn to read your plant.

Also it's better to ditch the ppm scale. It's an arbitrary conversion of conductivity to some random number. Conversionsfactors can be anywhere between 0,3 and 1. Just use EC and noone is confused.
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It was dairy cow compost with a PH of around 6.5 it claimed.
 
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