Grow log TNR(day11) and bagseed(day01)

Fed Juliana some watered down grow big nutes with some sucunat added. Also gave her a good spray of nute juice with just a touch of the new mix added in. Gave her a spray earlier with just the nute water.

Tia is still droopy. Just gave her a tiny bit of water to moisten the top layer of soil. She got one spritz of the nute juice. It made very small particles on her leaves.

The misting made the humidity raise to 85% and the temps cooled down a little. The "outside" sensor read 86, the inside thermometer is sitting in one of the pots and reads 81, and the cheapo white thermometer in the pot reads 84. If I remove the lid and feel the pot or soil it is cool. Not the least bit warm. The girls seem happy so I am not going to worry about it for now. I will be adding that extra intake though. I'll check the new light by touch to see how hot it gets in a while. If it is cool too I am going to keep switching out the 26w's for 42w's. All 5 would be 210w and that's just for the lights. I don't remember how much the fan was and it is inaccessible right now.

The carbon filter does wonders for the smell. When I made that rip in the ducting the smell spread through the room. I didn't have the fan running for the ONA gel. Speaking of which it does great when the fan circulates the air over the mouth of the jar. You have to mix up the top every few days though. The scent really kicks up when you do. I just put the lid on and shake it once. The lid gets a layer so I cover that with tape to keep from drying out. It's not much but it would deplete the gel much faster I think.

Here are the pics for tonight:

pics 1-3: Tia, 3rd is close-up of her FIM spot
pics 4+5: Juliana, 5th is a close-up of her FIM spot
pic 6: inside of box to show arrangement, in the blue circle is the new Sylvania (the box says it has 20 more lumen ), and in the red circle is the GE I have been using. The one in the socket by its self is a few inches further away than the rest. The sensor is about level with the bottom of the split lights. I am going to move it lower to get a more accurate reading of where the plants are.

Just checked temps again. Out: 88.7 In: 78.8 White: 84

I felt the base of the bulbs and it is interesting. All the 26w were hot but no so much I couldn't continuously touch them. The GE 42w was warm but not as much as the 26w, and the Sylvania was actually cool to the touch. I'm going to check again after an hour or two. If it is cool I'm going to pick up a couple more. It's just too bad they are $10 each. I lowered the sensor and accidentally pulled the wire out. I opened it and it was just in some wax. I put it back in and it seems fine. I added the new air intake. So we will see what happens with the temps because of that.

Just checked on the girls. The temps are 77.9, 79.8, and 79. When the house gets a chill the box is perfect. The house is right around 65. Both girls are looking good. Tia grew up an inch over the past 24 hours or so. She'll need LST'ing soon.

Lookin good man, are you in flower yet? also how big should the plant be before you top it?

I've seen people top when there are only a few nodes. If you cut it too low sometimes it takes a while for it to bounce back. Try to leave at least 3 sets of nodes intact. I would personally wait until you have at least 5 developed sets of nodes. Also when you top don't cut at the highest node. Go down a few so the stem is sturdier and can support 2 main colas. Unless it is already strong. Then cut wherever.

I put in 2 more sylvania 42w cfl's. That makes 3 sylvania 42w, 1 GE 42w, and 1, 26w 6500k. Temps were all around 84 after running for a few hours. I also starting LST'ing Tia this morning. Have her bent 90 degrees about 2 or 3 nodes down.

I also picked up some black kow composted manure. I'm going to make compost tea. I figure I'll add in some sucunat to the mix. I'll have a lid with an air pump mixing the tea so I am not too worried about bugs going for the sucunat. I could do it inside too I suppose. Should I add in any fox farm nutes? I also have high phosphorous bat guano. Should I add anything to the compost tea besides manure?

jebus2029 said:

I felt the base of the bulbs and it is interesting. All the 26w were hot but no so much I couldn't continuously touch them. The GE 42w was warm but not as much as the 26w, and the Sylvania was actually cool to the touch. I'm going to check again after an hour or two. If it is cool I'm going to pick up a couple more. It's just too bad they are $10 each. I lowered the sensor and accidentally pulled the wire out. I opened it and it was just in some wax. I put it back in and it seems fine. I added the new air intake. So we will see what happens with the temps because of that.

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Hey good job bro. How's the droopy one doing? Hey What kind of CFL should I get for Veg? I already have a T-5 but I need more side lighting. Can I get it from Home Depot or Lowes? And what watt and lumens? I was looking there, and I see some with 2700 lumens. I dont think its enough or is that cool?And what type light soft light, warm light, cool, red, blue, lol I know it should be blue for veg, but idk which one is blue. Hey Thanks bro and good luck.

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Hey good job bro. How's the droopy one doing? Hey What kind of CFL should I get for Veg? I already have a T-5 but I need more side lighting. Can I get it from Home Depot or Lowes? And what watt and lumens? I was looking there, and I see some with 2700 lumens. I dont think its enough or is that cool?And what type light soft light, warm light, cool, red, blue, lol I know it should be blue for veg, but idk which one is blue. Hey Thanks bro and good luck.

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Hey, for veg i would go to home depot and get 4 (depending on your budget) 27 watt 5500k. You dont have to but i would reccomend as manny cfls above 5000k as possible for veg, when you flower use 42 watt 2700k from home depot, the ones i am using are 3 42 watt 2700k, 1 27 watt 5500k, 1 32 watt 4000k, and 2 26 watt k value=?, mine are all doing great, home depot will have everything you need. if you have anymore questions ask me on my grow journal! https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/315635-cfl-grow-box-blue-mystic.html thanks and good luck

Hey Don thanks for stopping by. For veg you want to get the daylight 6500k. I've used 26w 1700 lumen (100w equivalent) with great success. I like the 42w (150w equivalent). They are the ones with 2700 lumen. They actually get pretty good penetration. I'd use one of those 2 sizes. You can get the 26w in 6500k from Wal-Mart. The 42w only comes in 2700k, but will still work for veg. If you get the 42w get it from Lowe's. It runs cooler and is more compact. Sylvania brand.

Tia, the droopy one, is doing well now. She is still droopy but feels sturdier. So I guess that is her new look. I have her LST'ed and the lower branches have stretched out a good bit.

I'll be posting some new pics in a bit.

Alright. Juliana is a month old today. She is getting extremely bushy and dense. I am going to have to thin out another 2 branches probably and remove as much lower growth as possible. I'm going to take it slow though. I probably have another 2 weeks of vegging before I put them under 12/12.

Tia is doing well also. I tied down a few of her branches to spread her out evenly. I also have the small fan inside pointed directly at her since she is still thin and weak.

Gave them both plain water when I took these pics. Misted the girls twice also.

pics 1-3: Tia, third one is her FIM spot
pics 4-6: Juliana, 5+6 are both her Fim spot
pics 7+8: shots through peep hole. Lights are about 6-7 inches from canopy.

I decided to extend the dark period another 2 hours. Now it is 18/6. I figured it may help them grow a bit more. It won't be much but it will cut down on the electric bill a tad also. Maybe a buck or so.

There are a few of us that subscribe to the theory that u should decrease your daylight gradually over a period (like mother nature. So if u did w hour a day u would be in 12/12 next tuesday. That should be about right considering their size and your space. Just a suggestion.

Your girls are looking good though

I would also let them shed their growth themselves. It could stunt them if the plant isn't ready to shed the growth. Plus that undergrowth has other benefits other than taking in light.

I was thinking about reducing it slowly for the same reason. I kind of wanted to try the 24-48 hours of total darkness to start the flowering period. It supposedly gives them a huge jump start on the flowering process. I'd just be worried about possible hermies being the result. I try to mess with the light as little as possible.

I am thinking of thinning her out because she is starting to grow too dense. There is little to no air flow under her and I am worried about mold and rot. I agree about not doing too much. I try to cut just a little at a time to minimize the stress. I just wish she would start growing out and stretch a touch rather than just fattening up in her space.

I'll be posting pics soon. I'm adjusting the time I take them at to work around the dark period.

Here are today's pics.

I took the pic through the window right before opening the box so you could get an accurate idea of what the temps are running at. The display unit's temp is the top number. The sensor is the second number and it is attached to the back of the white thermometer. The white thermometer is actually around 82. Looks higher from this angle. Since the sensor and the white one are reading the same I feel comfortable they are correct and I'll be moving it later to get a feel for hot spots.

I misted them with RO water and the temps dropped to the low 70's for a while. Himidity got up around 75% and slowly dropped until about 40%. After the lights are on for a while it will level out at 30%.

I'll let you know later if anything happened over the dark period.

I started brewing some compost tea last night. It has .5-.5-.5 black kow composted manure, a small dose of fox farms grow big and big bloom, sucunat, and 2 drops of dish detergent. It's only been brewing for about 12 hours but I decided to test it out on my established plants that I have outside. If they look good later today I'll give my girls some too.

Here are some pics of what I'm growing:

pic 1: bottom row is basil, 2nd row 2nd from the left is a watermelon seed just starting to poke out.
pic 2: swiss chard, pod in the top left you can just see the parsely beginning to poke out. Another is coming out the side of the same pod.
pic 3: cardinal climber vine, you can see that my cat thinks it is a tasty treat, green on the top left pod is accually part of the leaf from the pod below it
pic 4: can't remember what this one is called, it does not like too much sun though. All the younger leaves are cupped severely and have a crisper feeling so I moved it back inside
pic 5: aloe, it apparently doesn't like too much sun either. I left it out for a day or two and it had become bleach blonde. It was green only up near the tips. The rest was a whitish blonde color. This is after 2 days inside. Its color has almost returned to normal.
pic 6: Jade that I am trying to LST. I might try pruning it after it gets bigger to make a succulent bonzai!
pic 7: leaves from the jade that broke off and I'm trying to root.

Well all my plants outside still look good except for some asiatic lilies I sprayed. The flowers are a little wilted, although it may be because those have been open for awhile. Color and everything else is good on it. My tomato plant seemed to love the tea. It's about an inch taller since I sprayed and watered it with compost tea. So if it's good for tomatoes I have a feeling it will be good for my girls.

Both girls have alternating nodes on their side branches now. Tia just started having them but Juliana has been alternating for 2 or more nodes on her branches so she has probably been doing it for about a week. I think she'll start showing sex sometime in the next week. They are going into their dark period in about an hour so I'll feed them when they wake up. I am a little worried about Tia. I compared pictures of how she looked over the past week and you can see when the damage happened. It was from the nute spraying I gave her the other day. She had nice, sturdy and strong leaves one day then the next she is all droopy and twisted. Her new growth looks healthy though. Although it is a little pale, almost yellowish. They have the shape and feel of nice healthy leaves however. I just hope the compost tea isn't going to be too much and hurt her again.

Got some new pics of the girls.

pics 1-3: Tia, second one is to show the stress on the leaves from the nutes last week.
pics 4+5: Juliana
pic 6: both the girls

Fed them both the compost tea I made last night.

I forgot to mention it earlier. Tia might be a dude. I've been checking for sex on Juliana with no signs yet, and today I decided to look at Tia. Very first node I look at I see this tiny microscopic ball. Now I don't know for sure if its a male preflower but I have a strong suspicion that it is. I'll probably know in a few days. Nothing on Juliana yet. I think her second stem has taken root. I don't want to move it too much in case it's not secure yet. It feels like it has a snug fit though. I guess if Tia turns out to be male I'll just grow Juliana out more and have her fill the box. Depending on how fast she fills it out. There is still loads of room.

These are from yesterday. I was having problems uploading them last night.

They both got a huge growth bust since I fed them the tea. That stuff is incredible. I'll get some pics of them in a second and post them too.

pics 1-3: Tia, 3rd is of possible pollen sac preflower
pics 4-6: Juliana, 6th is FIM spot

I also noticed I FIM'ed her FIM. I pretty much topped her because there is no growth out of the main stem, and I chopped part of the leaves from the node below so they are a little mutated.

I fed my tomato plant again last night and the growth was rediculous so I fed the girls again this morning. I forgot to feed them last night so they went about 12 hours longer than normal before getting water. They both looked very healthy but temps were a little high. Sprayed a little on their leaves too. I hope it wasn't too strong. The younger leaves are a bit curled. I am thinking about giving up foliar feeding. It has been the culprit for most of the problems I think. Maybe too strong a dose or something. Whatever it is I just rather not have to deal with it.

nice grow what are the stages of each photo?