mmmpquad
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What time of year do you start your grow? Location-ish?
Gorilla glue #4 outside Michigan.
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so double the water of the actual soil amount? It directly in the ground. Which way did the roots go? Down, right, left, how far out of the moisture drip line did the spread? That's y it's tricky, ganja girl is right as well you can't mix organic with non, the synthetic kills of most of your microbial content. If your going to try an max it with nutes your running a high risk of burin your plants, or causing some sort of salt build up an will be hard to flush because of direct planting. U have to start slow an low with nutes, once u see damage u can't reverse it. Careful how hard u push, good luck an vibes bro
I started in solo cups in February, direct planted 3rd week of march in my hoophouse. I'm in the u.p.
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mmmpquad
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Thanks man.
ha ha what's to be nervous of. It's funny u say this an your not alone every year.
cassinfo
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LMFAO!!
mmmpquad
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Question for my friends on here about my fox farm nutrients arriving tomorrow. Should I not use them all together like there plan tells me? Or just use the big bloom (organic) and find a organic replacement for the other two? (Veg and flower nutrients). I know you said not to mix organic with synthetic.
well that big bloom ain't organic, the guano in it maybe, but there's lots of other shit in there. I'm assumin u also got the grow big an tiger? But if u are trying to avoid that worrisome flush u will be okay with that. I have a cheap suggestion. Get a pound of insect frass. Follow the instructions an water. BOOM BRO FOR REAL. U want microbes an web of life, this what frass does for me but it's just a suggestion I'm no pro, I've just failed a lot to get an answer. Keep up with your questions an passion. It's only way to learn.
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ForeverGreen42
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For sure... I've got my method down pat. I was basically telling him what you just said.. Except depending on how the hole is, if you water with enough, it will flush everything out, not just saturate part of it. But I agree you can't feed to heavy or you'll end up with chemical buds regardless. But ya, the heavier you feed, the longer and more you want to flush.
Which ingredient in big bloom is not organic in your opinion? Big bloom is the only thing in their line up of the 3 he got that is organic.
It's organic certified, but I could see some of their ingredients not being 100% organic, most are though in the big bloom if not all.
Big bloom = ewc, bat and seabird guano, rock phosphate, sulfate of potash magnesia & kelp.. Good stuff overall.
You'll be fine bro, just follow the feeding chart and start with only 1/4 strength or maybe even a little less. See how the plants respond then work your way up from there. Less is more. If you go full organic you'll have more microbial activity which will be good for the plant. At the same time, the grow big and tiger bloom don't have a high enough npk to kill off all the beneficials. They will only kill off some, and make it a less ideal environment for the benificals to thrive. Both will work though, I've seen plenty of outdoor growers use the fox farm line up with great results. Synthetics are more likely to burn the plant though so be careful. Don't get too carried away with them. Feed water water feed or even sometimes feed water water water feed is a good schedule with synthetics.
Here is some of the results I've got with organic this year, although I've got just as good results with synthetic in the past. Just experiment, it's the best way to learn. Do one plant with synthetic an one with a organic line up then compare the difference.:
mmmpquad
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Thank you. I'll just stick with what I have for this year and go easy. I'll post updates anyway so we can all see what they do. Appreciate your time and wisdom.
The big bloom says it's organic, I disagree, the other two don't claim to be. He'll be fine i think. It's all learning now, think how much you know more now than when u started. Then next grow you can find new an improved ways to screw up like I do!!!!!!! Good luck an perhaps now that you have those nutes you can do side by side tests
Stickslivin
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Wow my indoor never looks like that. It has a generous space between nodes. I got mine a few years back right as the hype started. And I know i have a legitimate cut for sure. I wish mine was so dense...what do u use that helps
Stickslivin
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If u mix the 2 it kills the microbes in the soil that the organic nutrients build up.
Stickslivin
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That's is a MASSIVE STALK. I only wish one day I can door my outdoors like that. I am a 3 yrs grower indoors...but a 1st time outdoor grower. So I made alot of mistakes trying out growing organic. I hope to learn for next year I planted mine as little clones on the 10th of june. We had 2 late frosts in michigan by me the last week of may and the 8th of June. So mine are only like this. 32" tall. And 32"wide. I have to keep then below 6"due to the neighbors and "being seen from a structure". Amazing work. I will be pushing for those insane results next year
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mmmpquad
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I put my clone out direct planted on Memorial Day. If you check out what Gangagirl420 did there is lots to learn there, I know I did. 3 months inside for a good start then huge holes or pots. I know what I'm doing next year and it's just that.
Noobgrower74
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I got some seedlings that I believe are dying from over watering. I transplanted them into bigger pots today, with very little water to help the dirt settle around the roots. The leaves are wilting and turning yellow. I got them outside and it rained on top of me watering them that day (didn't know it was gonna rain). Is there any chance that they may survive? My bad posting on your status IDK how to make my own yet. Just made this today.
ForeverGreen42
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The sun lol. I'm out about 8k feet elevation so have stronger uv rays than at sea level. I just use good ol organic nutes, but their are products that will shorten internodes and make denser buds like fox farm "open sesame" use during their stretch. Outdoors just let them get as much sun as possible.
Also If you use some humic acids/fulvic acids/yucca extract, that will help relieve plant stress + help them break down/uptake nutes at a higher rate which will result in denser internodes/thicker stalks/a happier plant overall. Beneficials like great white shark will help with all the above as well. + will help them develop a larger root system. Bigger roots = bigger fruits.
Indoors keep your light at the correct height. To high up and they could stretch, to close to the plants and they could stretch. Also using stronger lights indoors (600-1000 watt) and using MH instead of HPS For veg. Distance depends on the type of light used which I'm sure you already know.
Your plants are looking great! Just keep it up and you'll have a good healthy harvest at the end of the year! Next year start them early - anywhere from December to February and then drop them in either large holes/containers as early as possible (make sure light hours are long enough they won't pre flower early from shock) - 200 gallon containers minimum then just give them lots of love + sun & plenty of water + nutes when they need it and they'll grow into some trees! Also topping frequently early on will help create nice thick sturdy stalks!
Best of luck this year! Keep us
Posted on how everything is going!
mmmpquad
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I'm new ish also so I'm probably not the best to answer this but it sounds like if you put the clear top on your sprouts and give them some sun or light they should bounce back. Hopefully someone else can join in to help you out.
mmmpquad
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Pictures will help also.
Noobgrower74
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The ones in question died I only have one left. On another note I'm gonna b going out of town for a week and that one is in a pot. Would anybody happen to know a way for me to make sure it stays watered while I'm gone without having to worry about it dying?? It's my last one and I want to make sure it lives.