God, The Bible And How We Should Believe It?

YOU CAN ACTUALLY DOUBLE DOWN AT THE MOMENT Betting just took a dramatic increase because of last couple of post.... I got ya down for 1,000 in fall of 2001

Bets are Stabbing to Death by 2013
Erotic Asphyxiation in latter half of 2011
Pisses on Hive of Killer Bees by December of 2010
and last but not least...A lightning bolt from his friend up in the sky...most are hoping that one is as soon as possible so no real timeline

Haha MY bet is that he will probably get his ass whipped good enough to where he cant open his mouth as much.... oh, by 2010? No wager. Just a hunch.

we've had several other bets here from beneath the permafrost. beaten to death by a gay bible salesman in 2011 for fifty dollars, self-immolation next week for a slightly used pack of chewing gum and a betamax copy of debbie does dallas, and a hundred dollars on a snake handling incident in late 2012.

Haha! I am usually more original but I was actually irritated by the comments.

Wow I guess I should not be surprised by where this thread went. It is really pathetic if you think about it. How do you go from discussing Religion and physics to taking bets on when and how someone will die. I know your all just screwing around, but why can't you just have a rational debate instead of hurling insults around like a bunch of pubescent children. (Unless of course you all really are children)

Well this looks like fun...Jesus Christ never even existed...the whole story was made up!

If we all lived life like children the world would be a better place! Listen to them they have all the answers because they are not corrupted YET! Man is all wrong!

lime73 said:

If we all lived life like children the world would be a better place! Listen to them they have all the answers because they are not corrupted YET! Man is all wrong!

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Hayduke said:

Well this looks like fun...Jesus Christ never even existed...the whole story was made up!

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If I an archeologists digs up some bones you would ask how old are they. He says they look to be from the year 1234 or some crap. Then you would ask B.C. or A.D.? Without even thinking about it you just acknowledged that Jesus was real. His effect was so great on the world that we started time over. How can someone that never existed have such a profound effect on the course of the world. Even the Koran says that Jesus was the greatest profit above all others.

i say let people believe what they want to. but thats just what i believe. if you believe something else i cant say otherwise

crackerboy said:

If I an archeologists digs up some bones you would ask how old are they. He says they look to be from the year 1234 or some crap. Then you would ask B.C. or A.D.? Without even thinking about it you just acknowledged that Jesus was real. His effect was so great on the world that we started time over. How can someone that never existed have such a profound effect on the course of the world. Even the Koran says that Jesus was the greatest profit above all others.

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Did you give that thought more than two seconds? Using the calendar divisions of BC and AD have nothing to do with acknowledging whether Jesus was real any more than using our given names for the days of the weeks acknowledge the reality of the Norse gods or the names of the month acknowledge the Roman gods. I guess since I have to work next Wednesday and Thursday, then Thor and Odin are real.

The fact that the person that created the modern calendar was a believer in Jesus and wanted to honor him had nothing to do with it, huh?

BTW, you should know that nowadays archaeologists will use the convention that has become the world standard, including the post office, United Nations and scientific literature, and that is to use B.C.E and C.E. to refer to 'Before the Common Era' and 'Common Era' respectively.
(also, it's prophet, not profit genius)

mindphuk said:

Did you give that thought more than two seconds? Using the calendar divisions of BC and AD have nothing to do with acknowledging whether Jesus was real any more than using our given names for the days of the weeks acknowledge the reality of the Norse gods or the names of the month acknowledge the Roman gods. I guess since I have to work next Wednesday and Thursday, then Thor and Odin are real.

The fact that the person that created the modern calendar was a believer in Jesus and wanted to honor him had nothing to do with it, huh?

BTW, you should know that nowadays archaeologists will use the convention that has become the world standard, including the post office, United Nations and scientific literature, and that is to use B.C.E and C.E. to refer to 'Before the Common Era' and 'Common Era' respectively.
(also, it's prophet, not profit genius)

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so to say it without as much ego....they say B.C. and A.D. just to get some kind of measure in the time period. like no one knows when time started...

808toker said:

so to say it without as much ego....they say B.C. and A.D. just to get some kind of measure in the time period. like no one knows when time started...

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Without as much ego? What the fuck does that mean?
If someone is going to make such a stupid claim, they deserve a little smack down. It has nothing to do with my ego.

mindphuk said:

Without as much ego? What the fuck does that mean?
If someone is going to make such a stupid claim, they deserve a little smack down. It has nothing to do with my ego.

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hahaha idk im fucken baked! what do you expect on RIU chill out and smoke a j or 2

crackerboy said:

If I an archeologists digs up some bones you would ask how old are they. He says they look to be from the year 1234 or some crap. Then you would ask B.C. or A.D.? Without even thinking about it you just acknowledged that Jesus was real. His effect was so great on the world that we started time over. How can someone that never existed have such a profound effect on the course of the world. Even the Koran says that Jesus was the greatest profit above all others.

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How?...The power of kings over the illiterate!

The story is not new...

During a time of strict Roman Census (and remember it's not like the story did not include the Romans...they killed him [so the story goes..])...not only does this thorn in the ass of Tax collectors not show up on the roll call...He is not spoken of until near 60 years after his death...this doer of miracles seemingly escaped the scribes for what was then...more than a lifetime and several generations!

The Koran is full of shit also...

And BC/AD does not acknowledge the existence of something that exists only in the minds of the delusional, any more than measuring in feet means my foot is 12"...it's just time...and some would say time is an illusion...perceived individually

On a lighter note...I find it really funny that in these difficult economic times, that people are filling churches that are so new, they have no bldg!!! Every school and the local city civic center now has a "church" that uses the facilities on Sunday...Some of these "churches" are lucky enough to have a suite in a strip mall...

Folding chairs...sin carnival tent! Freaking revivalists in the bible belt of the southwest!...

Praise the lord and pass the collection plate!...it's perfect...selling a product that you "feel"...and if you don't...you're not trying hard enough! They put out signs on the street corner like it's a damn yard sale!! I have difficulty comprehending that people are ACTUALLY this stupid...

edit:mindphuk...HeHe...I should have read your post before spouting off!!!

And lots of profit from the prophets!

Wow you all just missed the main point or you just chose to ignore that part. The point was how can you deny that Jesus was even real when he has changed the world more than any person or event in history. And once again mindphuk why is it that you must result to insults. That only shows your own insecurities. And you just might see some spelling goofs cause this is a site of stoners and sometimes my fingers go faster than my mind when Im baked. LOL. You don't have to be a prick all the time do you.

crackerboy said:

Wow you all just missed the main point or you just chose to ignore that part. The point was how can you deny that Jesus was even real when he has changed the world more than any person or event in history. And once again mindphuk why is it that you must result to insults. That only shows your own insecurities. And you just might see some spelling goofs cause this is a site of stoners and sometimes my fingers go faster than my mind when Im baked. LOL. You don't have to be a prick all the time do you.

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Your main point is completely lost when you start out with a false premise. What does the reality of a person have to do with whether or not their mythical status had an effect on people and thus the world? You are one step away from claiming proof of the divinity of Jesus just because of his impact on western civilization. You know, this God character also had a pretty big impact on the world so I guess that means he's real too.

I'm sorry you think I was insulting but if you are going to present that failed line of reasoning as proof of Jesus, you sort of deserve what was said. Besides, anything I said in that post barely qualifies as insulting. It sounds like you're the one with insecurities. If you can't take some heat in a forum designed to debate this shit, especially when you are clearly wrong, then maybe you would be happier in a Christian forum where infidels such as I aren't welcome and you can all pat each other on the back for being so clever about how you all know that Jesus is really the Son of God and all of the rest of us stupid fools will burn for eternity.

BTW, what do you mean by "once again?" Where else in this thread do you find that I insulted you?

if jews don't really acknowledge jesus, and jesus was a jew, is it safe to assume that he doesn't acknowledge himself? but who says there weren't other writings circulating about jesus before the "official" ones?

blazin256 said:

but who says there weren't other writings circulating about jesus before the "official" ones?

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The story of the virgin birth of a messiah along with his untimely death is much older than hayseus...and the scholars and scribes of the time (writers and producers) would have been very aware of these historical stories...it makes sense that for a quick sheckle they might make a new Rambo movie

so i guess it also makes sense for 12 people to write about someone, real or fake, teach about him and possibly die for him also. i dunno about you but i wouldn't make something up and be a martyr all for a quick dollar. christianity wasn't even a centralized church till the romans came in 300 years later. no telling how many how many texts they burnt.