Global Warming Update

CrackerJax

New Member
So what if this was the warmest winter?

Think the MMGW nutjobs wouldn't seize it as proof positive? They sure would.

Guess it doesn't work the other way.

FAIL.
 

Big P

Well-Known Member
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Decade/climate-2009-caps-hottest-decade-record/story?id=9283733

The current decade likely ranks as the hottest since temperature records began in the 1850s, the U.N. World Meteorological Organization announced today.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2009/1208/climate-change-scientists-say-this-decade-likely-hottest-on-record

The first decade of the 21st century is shaping up to be the warmest decade on record globally, while 2009 is likely to crack the Top 10 list of warmest years, perhaps rising as high as No. 5.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/science/earth/22warming.html

The decade ending in 2009 was the warmest on record, new surface temperature figures released Thursday by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration show.

http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/environment/Australia-Sweats-After-Hottest-Decade-on-Record-80789377.html

The past decade was Australia's hottest on record as a result of global warming. And the nation's Bureau of Meteorology says 2010 will be even warmer, with temperatures as much as one degree above the average.


If you guys are just gonna come back with "they're LIARS!!!" - don't even bother, it's just going to be a waste of your time.

we can know these things for sure:

there is an agenda

the agenda doesnt mesh with the fact that the earth is cooling

the media pushes its agenda wherever whenever and however they can

for an example:

you do realize that the General Electric Corp. Owns the news agency NBC News right?

the CEO of GE Jeffrey R. Immelt has been working with obama and had a large hand in getting him elected.

they did this because GE is falling apart & without the sweetheart deals obama is going to give them to produce green jobs GE will go bankruppt


Why do you think NBC has been in obamas pocket all this time? and throughout the elections?

because the guy who pays NBC's anchors salaries is butt buddies with barak obama to make money, simply for greed.

this money will come out of your pocket. and my pocket


now can you advise why I have to pay for a back room deal made by Obama and the CEO of GE to help get him elected? and to povide GE with an unfair an head start into an industry that looks to be compleatly fabricated, unessesary and depressing to our economy

this vien runs deep my friend very deep



you remeber how Toyota is haveing all these recalls now?

you know why it didnt surface earlier?


because most of the big shots at the NTSB in some strang coincidence have left the NTSB for more luctive jobs at Toyota adviseing them on how to evade and missinform about thier faulty cars so they dont have to recall as many cars.



you are doing the devils work Pada and you dont even know it.


I think it would be better to reaserch all the deception coming for the Porgressive movment than just searching for things that might support you already made up mind

because these are easy to find and not impartial.




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CrackerJax

New Member
You can't rely on manipulated data.

Even if it fits your world view.

Pick your game up a notch or two. You can get there.
 

BeginnersLuck

Active Member

dukeofbaja

New Member
The CC deniers are posting Glenn Beck videos to support their point. Yeah, he knows better than 97% of scientists whose expertise is climate science and who have published more than 50% of their peer-reviewed papers on the subject of climate change.

EPIC FAIL
 

BeginnersLuck

Active Member
The CC deniers are posting Glenn Beck videos to support their point. Yeah, he knows better than 97% of scientists whose expertise is climate science and who have published more than 50% of their peer-reviewed papers on the subject of climate change.

EPIC FAIL
You can find these scientific findings over in the fiction section.... Right?:clap:
 

BeginnersLuck

Active Member
More like lining the walls of libraries at institutions of higher education and scientific academies.

Tell me, where would I go to find Glenn Beck's book(s)?
Ok well GB is an entertainer and thats it at this point in his career. Hes powerful and loved by millions, I happen to think he is okay but not a huge fan.. I do on the other hand applaud him for standing up against the status quo.

Look noone with any right mind can deny climate change, cc is a cycle that has occurred since the beginning of the earths existence. It is however ridiculous to falsely say that CC is man made when we have NO proof of that at all... We havent been around long enough to know that for fact.

We are just tired of liberals and progressives scaring us into writing blank checks... im not sure where everyone is from but I live in the states and CC is MY LAST CONCERN..

I am more worried about the economy and getting a job again.. I want the debt to be managed and I want smaller government. Plain and simple; stop trying to scare the world to write blank checks... Thats what its all about..

Cheers

BL
 

dukeofbaja

New Member
You should really stay out of this debate since you do not seem to know how science works....

It is however ridiculous to falsely say that CC is man made when we have NO proof of that at all... We havent been around long enough to know that for fact.

Ummm, duh. We will never have 'proof' that makes this theory 'fact'

What we already do have is a mountain of evidence to support the theory that climate change is, at least in part, caused by the activities of humans.

When faced with two competing theories, such as 'climate change is at least partially man made' and 'climate change is not man made, but rather a conspiracy designed to take my money', I look at the evidence in favor of each theory. Neither theory can ever be proven fact, but one theory may have loads of evidence in its favor while the other one doesn't. In this case, 97% of those who know best favor the former theory, not the latter.

Also, when faced with uncertainty about what we know, I also tend to look at the consequences of divergent courses of action. And in this case, it would be infinitely more devastating to do nothing and find out 97% of those who know best were correct, rather than to do something and find out that they were wrong.

And ho said anything about writing blank checks? Why not be proactive and lead the way in sustainable energy? We can make more jobs here at home and export the technology to coutries like India and China. Sustainable energy, the type that weens us off our dependence on foreign oil, is a good idea whether you believe in MMCC or not. Uness you like the idea of doing nothing and slapping yourself upon the forehead once gas hits $12 a gallon and we are buying our alternative energy resources from China
 

BeginnersLuck

Active Member
You should really stay out of this debate since you do not seem to know how science works....

It is however ridiculous to falsely say that CC is man made when we have NO proof of that at all... We havent been around long enough to know that for fact.

Ummm, duh. We will never have 'proof' that makes this theory 'fact'

What we already do have is a mountain of evidence to support the theory that climate change is, at least in part, caused by the activities of humans.

When faced with two competing theories, such as 'climate change is at least partially man made' and 'climate change is not man made, but rather a conspiracy designed to take my money', I look at the evidence in favor of each theory. Neither theory can ever be proven fact, but one theory may have loads of evidence in its favor while the other one doesn't. In this case, 97% of those who know best favor the former theory, not the latter.

Also, when faced with uncertainty about what we know, I also tend to look at the consequences of divergent courses of action. And in this case, it would be infinitely more devastating to do nothing and find out 97% of those who know best were correct, rather than to do something and find out that they were wrong.

And ho said anything about writing blank checks? Why not be proactive and lead the way in sustainable energy? We can make more jobs here at home and export the technology to coutries like India and China. Sustainable energy, the type that weens us off our dependence on foreign oil, is a good idea whether you believe in MMCC or not. Uness you like the idea of doing nothing and slapping yourself upon the forehead once gas hits $12 a gallon and we are buying our alternative energy resources from China
After reading the first sentence I know I dont have to read the rest.. I know I know I know, typical liberal we have difference of opinions and thats ALL they they are are opinions.. I know jack shit.. typical lefty and thats why yall are soo 2008 LOL

Grab ahold of something liberals cause the TEA party and the GOP aint gonna sit by anymore and let yall lie your way to the banks..

Peace
 

dukeofbaja

New Member
Why are you so fixated on a political dichotomy? This issue is not a left/right issue. Why don't you go back and actually read instead of tuning out anything that does not appease your confirmation bias?

EDIT - By the way, I will be voting non-incumbent from here on out and encouraging many others to do the same. You however, seem to be advocating for the broken left/right system, plus a bunch of tea baggers. FAIL
 

jeff f

New Member
Why are you so fixated on a political dichotomy? This issue is not a left/right issue. Why don't you go back and actually read instead of tuning out anything that does not appease your confirmation bias?

EDIT - By the way, I will be voting non-incumbent from here on out and encouraging many others to do the same. You however, seem to be advocating for the broken left/right system, plus a bunch of tea baggers. FAIL
you argue against left or right but then slam the tea party. the tea party is exactly what you "should" be looking for. they are across political parties and come from the left and right. they want smaller govt intrusions ie taxes, over regulation, stifling economic policies, public money giveaways etc.

its about freedom duke.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Duke has no anchored principles detectable by his posts.

The data you cling to Duke is corrupted. Science changes ALL the time. This science round about global warming has been exposed as bad science.

We want good science....that's all. We don't want $$$ to be the driving force to scientific conclusions. We don't want opposing views being shut out.

It is YOU who seem fixated on sticking to a viewpoint which is hinged on faulty data. As the perpetrators of that fudged data now come clean and admit they made errors, and things aren't NEARLY like what they said they were....you remain entrenched....left behind.

That's not an open mind.
 

jeff f

New Member
:lol:
ignored? or just missed?

bongsmiliebongsmilie
hahahahaha. dude, that last article pic of the kids in florida school made me piss my pants. :lol::lol::lol:

i havent caught the last 150 or so posts. been disinterested i guess.

did you happen to peruse any of the weather channel record stuff for your area? my area was amazing. if it wouldnt give away my exact location i would print it. the warmest temperature records for just about every month were recorded well before 1995. i thought huh? they been fooling us for longer than i expected :mrgreen:bongsmilie
 

CrackerJax

New Member
I think ALL the record keeping going back decades needs to be rechecked.

This is obviously a very inexact science. The latest debacle with GW has harmed the reputation of science.

Reset please. Reset and recalibrate.
 
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