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LostintheWoods

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So i have been having alot of success with the GO line but i have currently run into a problem and dont know how to go about it :sad:.

I had to switch to using my city water because i couldnt go to the store to buy distilled/RO water there(started using to much per day). I bought a RO system and have been using the water from there since after letting it sit for 24hrs as you are supposed to. Since i am not sure if my water has Chlorine/Chloramine in it i also went ahead and purchased a product called Start Right by Jungle created for fishtanks to remove Chlorine/Chloramine(contains sodium chloride, aloe vera, polyvinlpyrrollidone(8 drops per gallon). I have noticed the new growth starting to be effected. I did use full nutes for the first time the day before these pictures were taken so that may be the problem but i feel it is pH related(nutes have been used extremely lightly since they were started and have been slowly been built up in strenght).
I have read everywhere pH doesnt matter but i have been checking my h20 regardless before i go watering my babies. these readings are before any nutes are added just plain RO h20 thats been sitting for 24hrs. ph-7.43-7.00 /ppm-3 / uS-6-5.

Is that to high of a pH to be watering with? what can i do to lower my ph when not adding nutes which lower the pH? I have always been told 6.5-5.5 outside of that things start getting locked out(nutes and then growth is obviously effected).

I have advanced and pro mix (wanted to see which is better)both mixed with perlite and dolomite lime(ph buffer) in the pots. Only other thing i have been using is The GO line, and some AZamax for the bugs.

Help is greatly appreciated! also if you need anymore information to help determain the problem feel free to ask.
 

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Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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LostintheWoods said:
So i have been having alot of success with the GO line but i have currently run into a problem and dont know how to go about it :sad:.

I had to switch to using my city water because i couldnt go to the store to buy distilled/RO water there(started using to much per day). I bought a RO system and have been using the water from there since after letting it sit for 24hrs as you are supposed to. Since i am not sure if my water has Chlorine/Chloramine in it i also went ahead and purchased a product called Start Right by Jungle created for fishtanks to remove Chlorine/Chloramine(contains sodium chloride, aloe vera, polyvinlpyrrollidone(8 drops per gallon). I have noticed the new growth starting to be effected. I did use full nutes for the first time the day before these pictures were taken so that may be the problem but i feel it is pH related(nutes have been used extremely lightly since they were started and have been slowly been built up in strenght).
I have read everywhere pH doesnt matter but i have been checking my h20 regardless before i go watering my babies. these readings are before any nutes are added just plain RO h20 thats been sitting for 24hrs. ph-7.43-7.00 /ppm-3 / uS-6-5.

Is that to high of a pH to be watering with? what can i do to lower my ph when not adding nutes which lower the pH? I have always been told 6.5-5.5 outside of that things start getting locked out(nutes and then growth is obviously effected).

I have advanced and pro mix (wanted to see which is better)both mixed with perlite and dolomite lime(ph buffer) in the pots. Only other thing i have been using is The GO line, and some AZamax for the bugs.

Help is greatly appreciated! also if you need anymore information to help determain the problem feel free to ask.
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The nutrients will drop the pH of your water, that's fine coming out of the tap.
 
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LostintheWoods

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Wolverine97 said:
The nutrients will drop the pH of your water, that's fine coming out of the tap.
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Wolverine 97 Thank you for that! when i am not using nutes though what should i use in my h20 to lower the pH or will the soil be buffered enough with the dolomite line and the nutes that are still in the soil? Do you have any idea of what could have caused the growth to grow disformed like that? This morning they seemed to be all ok! Thank you again sir!
 
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Wolverine97

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It should be fine if you're in soil, it's a touch high but should be fine since ro water has no alkalinity(resistance to pH change). Effectively, the water pH will equalize to that of the medium within minutes of watering. Also, if you're using RO water you don't need to let it set out.
 
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Banditt

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depends on your ro system, most do not infact reduce chlorine or chloramine so letting your water sit out is a good idea unless you know for sure your RO unit removes chlorine. Chloramine can only be removed via a filter, letting the water sit out will not effect the chloramine levels.
 
Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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If it's reverse osmosis, then everything is removed. There are chloramine filters to add on to carbon sediment filters, but ro takes everything out.
 
Banditt

Banditt

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Wolverine97 said:
If it's reverse osmosis, then everything is removed. There are chloramine filters to add on to carbon sediment filters, but ro takes everything out.
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Sorry man but that is just not correct. I have had about 3 different RO filters in my time. None of which fully removed chloramine, and only one which removed chlorine. For instance, currently I am running a merlin RO system. I had to buy a special prefilter (green coco) to remove chlorine, and it only partially removes chloramine, you need an addon prefilter in order to remove the chloramine. Trust me most RO systems do not remove chlorine or chloramine in any way.
 
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Hmm. Now you've got me second guessing myself, to research I shall go... I have a pretty high-end Culligan system that removes absolutely everything, I get 0ppm water with a fresh ro membrane.
 
Banditt

Banditt

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Wolverine97 said:
Hmm. Now you've got me second guessing myself, to research I shall go... I have a pretty high-end Culligan system that removes absolutely everything, I get 0ppm water with a fresh ro membrane.
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Sounds like you may have an RODI system, which is reverse osmosis deionization. These systems typically leave you with 0ppm or very close to it water. Although I am not sure chlorine and chloramine are ionic so not sure if the DI part of the system removes them either. I would research it further if I were you as well. I was suprised also to find out that most of these systems do not remove the chlorine/chloramine.
 
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mr.bond said:
one of my plants showed a little necrosis on early leaf sets near the bottom of the stalk, but it was only a few leaves and i contributed it to not feeding enough. i picked up the pace a bit on feeding and its health improved. mine are also about 30 days into flower, an OG Kush and a Grapefruit Haze.

you said you mix 4 things into one jar for feeding, which of the 4 compounds you are using and at what strength? how often do you feed/water? do you supplement with any bennies or anything?

ive seen fan leaves display similar symptoms in hydro, attributed to cal/mag shortage or water issues.

cheers
mr.bond
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I use 5 gal pro mix hp
Go box nutes at recommended dosage
Diamond black
Cal mg
Bio thrive
Bloom

I water with 1 gal per plant about every 4 days
Tried a one gal water flush but the blue cheese is still dying :-/
 
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Banditt

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Jaxstraw said:
I use 5 gal pro mix hp
Go box nutes at recommended dosage
Diamond black
Cal mg
Bio thrive
Bloom

I water with 1 gal per plant about every 4 days
Tried a one gal water flush but the blue cheese is still dying :-/
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How about some pics?
 
Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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Banditt: I'm curious mostly so that I don't give incorrect advice, I have well water so it (chlorine/chloramine) doesn't matter for me anyway.
 
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LostintheWoods

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Thats currently my other problem there is so much misleading information as to what does what. I bought a RO system and on the side of the box it shows a special filter you have to buy for clorine/cholarmine filter but that the current system cleans 99% of everything out of the water. but when i asked at the hydro store about the other filter they told me i would be okay and not to worry(even with the understanding i was running GO and it woud kill everything), also that if it helped settle my mind to let it sit out for 24hrs to remove anything else within the water, but whats thats going to do if i have chloramine? nothing!?
 
Banditt

Banditt

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LostintheWoods said:
Thats currently my other problem there is so much misleading information as to what does what. I bought a RO system and on the side of the box it shows a special filter you have to buy for clorine/cholarmine filter but that the current system cleans 99% of everything out of the water. but when i asked at the hydro store about the other filter they told me i would be okay and not to worry(even with the understanding i was running GO and it woud kill everything), also that if it helped settle my mind to let it sit out for 24hrs to remove anything else within the water, but whats thats going to do if i have chloramine? nothing!?
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Perhaps your local water does not contain chloramine and they know this so they are trying to save you a few bucks? Otherwise they are giving you bad advice. Get a local water report and see if it is even an issue for you or not.
 
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LostintheWoods

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what has everyone been using for a watering schedule. Water.nutes.dry.water.nutes.dry.etc... or nutes.dry.nutes.dry.(with occasional flush)?

Also at what strenghts if you keep track?
 
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Greensome

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Banditt said:
What he is saying is you can't mix the concentrated nutrients together before adding water. You have to add them to water first. Otherwise you might lock up some of the elements.
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I know this is an old thread but the subject came up on another which led me here, so I wanted to clear this up.

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with mixing the concentrated nutrients first. As a matter of fact, many people mix this for storage and the manufacturer has instructions for how to do it. Aeration is applied, and the nutes can be used as needed, already mixed. So I don't know who said you couldn't mix them first, it's bullshit. Plus, I always mix them first and my plants turn out stellar.

The real problem is mixing the line without adding the water. The nutes will break down, but this has to do with improper storage, not the fact that the nutes were mixed before water was introduced.
 
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