Game changer Emulsifying Vegetable Glycerin and BHO for E-Juice

oilmkr420

Active Member
I found vapor pens frustrating and novelty items. For my oil, that shits just to thick and just doesn't get the mp of all the cannabinoids, leaving the cartage all gunned up w resins that don't vaporize. And cutting my stuff to be vaporizing glycerine just isn't appealing to me. I look for the most pure, so I do the absolute least and over do it. Remember when we started smoking weed? That's how I like my stuff kicking. Surprising people like some new prospect investors claimed they just can't get stoned anymore. I said less than 5 dabs and your done. He laughed. It happened in three. He was blasted. This is a veteran smoker of 20+ years. Boy was he stoned. Good luck JYNDUSTRY as my patents that will be applied for are much more suited for pharmacological applications, and if they aren't, don't worry I won't sue you for bitting my concepts. But they offer things your process doesn't . Control, lower temperature w higher pressures, or both high pressure and temperature, and touch screen PLC, w liquid co2 being pumped as a liquid, not transferred as a high pressure gas. What you do is a hot gas extraction that destroys cannabinoids w excessive heat, as you do wearing gloves to blast your extract. 40C is plenty hot and ideal if one must go supercritical. I won't put you on blast anymore, but if you contact me again, it's on. KIT gray wolf
 

GrowinDad

Well-Known Member
All of the small vape pens are shit for vaping herb or oils from my experience. Now the modern tanks and batteries like GG is saying works great when mixing with PG.

How does one compare the stuff out there with the stuff we old timers used to smoke? THC levels have skyrocketed and one does build up tolerance. Before I grew, the modern good stuff was too strong for me and my everyday use. Well hell, that is all we grow and now it hits me about the same as good ole generic red hair used to.

i am a chef type, making small batches, and i don't measure anything. My vape solution works great, hits me right, etc. Biggest issue I have beyond figuring out best ways to keep it in solution is that it gums up the coil quickly.

I bought a mini electric handheld whisk/mixer that i will be trying to today or tmrw when iso is done. One of the attachments looks similar to this homogenizer thing so i am curious.

Vape wise, i think a pg and vg mix is best. Last batch I added the vg first which was stupid. So I will see how it works if I first thin with everclear, lets if mostly evap out, add some pg, mix, add some vg, and let the rest of the alcohol evaporate.

i use a container inside of a small crock pot, hot water bath, to keep it warm while making.
 

Fadedawg

Well-Known Member
See how different lighting can effect the looks? Using a basic smart phone camera and simple flashlight. LED flash sucks!

Light pointed at the product, kind of reflecting off instead of looking through.
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Light shining into the product from below.
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Light Shining from behind the oil but not at it.
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I just put some QWISO in my purge pan (small metal measuring cup), place onto a coffee mug warmer with the pan slightly tipped. When the concentrate begins to melt or flow just added about 25% PG USP and mixed well with a mini spatula. Removing from heat a few times to not overheat the product.

Pretty much all I have been using. innokin SVD and KangerTech Aerotank. Nice vaporizing! I don't care to fill it with more than 1.5 grams. I have been testing my oil side by side, straight vs. mixed. I prefer it mixed. It is only about 75-80% as potent vs. straight. Probably 100% gram for gram considering it vaporizes so well.

I take 3 to 5 baby hits, and I am pretty baked. You guys could probably easily take in that much in one hit!

The only complaint I have received on this method with my oil is it is easy to consume too much. It tastes so good and it is so easy to keep taking little puffs off the vape. In other words, it is easy to over do it.

No leaks so far with the AeroTank.

My other AeroTank that has been put away for about a month. The oil I left in it did not separate.
Good point! My best oil shots are in natural sunlight, held up and canted until you hit a perfect optic axis for the light.
I've yet to perfect any indoor lighting that works as well, but then I'm not a pro and no doubt there is someone who can.

The issue is further complicated by the Beers/Lambert effect, dramatically changing light transmission with increasing film thickness.

The sad truth is that I haven't found any vapor pen as heavy hitting and as tasty as a Ti nail, dabbing straight oil, but the small oil skillets come closer than any of the mixtures that we've tried, including those we made ourselves.

I prefer a small skillet, because deeper reservoirs of oil become noticeably more phenolic tasting toward the end, as the lighter elements leave first, leaving behind the highest boiling point ones. While a mixture doesn't suffer as much from that issue, it does impart its own taste.

A disadvantage of the small vapor pen skillet is how often you have to fill it and how messy they get, so when I carry them, I carry several preloaded.

E-pens with mixture tanks don't suffer from the same issues, but do add the issue of PEG and/or VG residue in our lungs, in addition to the cannabis oil residue. Especially if we have to take more hits to achieve the same effect.

The advantage to the vapor pen, is of course its social acceptance in general society, because of the tobacco industry. They also attract much less attention in public, than a Ti nail with blow torch, or even electronic nail in their current designs.

Measuring potency is a problem, without all the samples being run side by side, under the same conditions. and tested by the same panel.

Those testing the homogenized VG were uniformly impressed, and I long ago came to believe that under internet forum circumstances all "potent" mixtures are equal if they impress different panels of random impartial testers.

I also have no doubt that as you have attracted and are maintaining clientele, that the market has voted in your favor, so good job! You go girl!
 

Grow Goddess

Well-Known Member
The more I think about it, in some ways I am wrong.

For myself, adding VG would be a downgrade. I don't want any big vapor cloud. I want it to be as stealth and as potent as possible. I have a decent tolerance. I have to admit, a couple of my patients would probably prefer it with VG and probably some flavor added too. Assuming I could get the VG to efficiently mix. I did mention that they did complain it was too easy to get too high and they seem kind of scared of it. I would surely have PG USP in the mix with the VG though to help assist in vaporizing, staying infused, and to assist in the medicine entering into the bloodstream. Most of all, just to lower the required vaping temperature.

I stand corrected, you could be right the more I think about it. There are people that will prefer it that way. Similar to blunts vs. a thin rolling paper. Everybody has their personal preference and tolerance too.

Actually with top notch winterized extract from buds, there is no profit to be made. You would almost have to dilute it to keep the prices fair. Especially since most are making extracts from leaf and trim.

So I got this new clearomizer today, an Aspire CE5 BDC for my eGo C Twist 650mAh Variable Voltage pen battery. It was recommended to me from Nix at another forum. So far trying it out it seems to be the best for my e-cannabis mix. I am liking it so much on my pen I put the SVD away for a while! It seems a lot more efficient. I also got a 5 pack of 2.1 ohm coils for it only $10.95!. You can also get the coils in 1.8 ohm which may offer a bigger hit. You can get the clearomizers tinted too. Looks very similar to an iClear16, just a little bit longer with some big improvements. It is a bottom dual coil unit. The mouthpiece is a standard 510 so if you want you can change it. The CE5 BDC is only $5.95. I haven't heard of any complaints of them leaking and so far it has not for me. The dual coils are kind of small and I have to turn the voltage down as low as it will go on my eGo C Twist VV battery, which is good in my opinion. It does seem smoother and tastier than the KangerTech AeroTank. Possibly more efficient too. So far, my first impression, I am really liking the CE5 BDC. Very affordable and works really well so far.

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I have noticed that different clearomizers have a great effect on the taste of the same oil.

Edit: To the OP, when I mentioned marketing I was not referring to you. I was referring to what is currently being marketed. Pure Gold and what I have seen most lately is replacement tanks for the O-Pen. In Colorado I think. I guess it is a CO2 extracted oil with PEG and other chemicals.
 

hoova

Member
I'm curious on how u got the wax and the vg to mix. I tried with shatter and it just turned the shatter into a gooey ball and seperated right from the bat. I mixed it fine with pg but I think 100% pg gives me a headache and i would like the sweetness the vg would add to it. can someone please let me know how they got it to mix.
 
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