Fukushima, No Cause for Alarm

If you're really worried about radioactive releases into the ocean, why don't you start with couple hundred thousand barrels the US military dumped into several dumping sites across the world. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of chemical weapons dumped along with them.

Radiophobia is what's really behind it all. Nuclear power isn't going anywhere. There are environmental impacts in any type of power production, and there are viable plans to contain the waste. Yucca Mt. has been ready for years, but politics has kept it shut down all while billions were spent letting Congress argue about it ineffectually.

Granted I work in the field so my opinion is hardly objective, but I really think that nuclear power is a viable stop gap solution to meet increasing energy demands until fusion reactors become useful.

rustyshaclkferd said:

It seems to show that you will lie about anecdotal experience or proof/expierence just to try to win a point in a argument


Please proceed to do whatever, it's entertaining to watch strangers lie to prove non existing points

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Hey, 19. You missed the main point. This is a running joke among forum friends. This is not something I am trying prove or disprove.

I am just a grower waiting on the girls. What is your malfunction saying I lie?

So, what have you brought but this faked up criticism, so far?

DutchKillsRambo said:

If you're really worried about radioactive releases into the ocean, why don't you start with couple hundred thousand barrels the US military dumped into several dumping sites across the world. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of chemical weapons dumped along with them.

Radiophobia is what's really behind it all. Nuclear power isn't going anywhere. There are environmental impacts in any type of power production, and there are viable plans to contain the waste. Yucca Mt. has been ready for years, but politics has kept it shut down all while billions were spent letting Congress argue about it ineffectually.

Granted I work in the field so my opinion is hardly objective, but I really think that nuclear power is a viable stop gap solution to meet increasing energy demands until fusion reactors become useful.

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Hey, who is worried? It is what it is. And IT ALL ADDS UP. Yeah, so what is to worry? A problem with good solutions and no will to apply it, is a different type of problem all together.

BTW, what has you holding your breath for a fusion breakthrough?

I certainly don't see a breakthrough. Sorta dead in the water seems to me.

heckler73 said:

Do you have a more detailed map with vector fields on it, by any chance?
I need a decent one for something I'm thinking about (re:ODEs)...

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Surface vectors



Conveyor vectors



Space observation tracking












http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/perpetual-ocean.html#.UkSUElKrTIU

Doer said:

Hey, 19. You missed the main point. This is a running joke among forum friends. This is not something I am trying prove or disprove.

I am just a grower waiting on the girls. What is your malfunction saying I lie?

So, what have you brought but this faked up criticism, so far?

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lying for effect i see as usual . . . to bad you cant use the excuse im not a expert and at times are wrong, since you claim to be an expert at just about everything yet fall far far short of logical, making sense or even factual often . . . . haha and the newb came on here on spotted it like a piece of shit left by a bad dog in the middle of the room

I'm reading it you dolt and you keep manipulating the discussion with your agenda based lies

you can't build an argument based on lies

I believe that's what a faced is


And you have been proven inaccurate or at least uninformed at least once

Actually quick question, if the world is going to end from fuckishima and this is what you believ

What's the point arguing about it, no amount of every person on earth knowing they are going to die of radiation poisoning will make it not happen ,only a select few who , if your premise is correct, are already doing as much as possible


You can go Re read all the points you never counter yourself

And I don't have to be apart of your semantics to be able to spot the bs


The sky is falling tell everyone


But like I said earlier please proceed

What? I am discussing issues among my forum mates here and you can shove it or whatever it is you do, low count.

Do think your opinions of this forum entity are suppose to matter? See my .sig. What are you, Canadian?

See, you want to argue. That is why you are trying to jerk it to personal. Small. I don't get baited by small.

Thanks Doer,

That led me to this movie:
http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a003800/a003821/flow_flat_sst_1024x512.mp4

Still not quite as detailed as I'm looking for, but at least I'm in the right area, now.

Just because you stated something that is obviously not true doesn't mean you are a bad guy or have to get all territorial

or make your own site and go there, it is a public board. I personally believ it will have vast effects that we cannnot

calculate due to the currents and is best to keep an open mind, everyone thought all the other partial meltdowns or the past( and yes I know and agree this is different kind of meltdown problem) were going to change life for ever

And they did and people are still not radiated

predictions have a way of haveing a agenda to prove


I'm all for discussion and reading your thoughts with your pals but it distracts from a real discussion when you can't even own up to a lie or mistake

Which even your body brought up multiple times yet you seem to ignore him and attack me
It cheapens the discussion

heckler73 said:

Thanks Doer,

That led me to this movie:
http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a003800/a003821/flow_flat_sst_1024x512.mp4

Still not quite as detailed as I'm looking for, but at least I'm in the right area, now.

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That is pretty trippy!

Samwell Seed Well said:

lying for effect i see as usual . . . to bad you cant use the excuse im not a expert and at times are wrong, since you claim to be an expert at just about everything yet fall far far short of logical, making sense or even factual often . . . . haha and the newb came on here on spotted it like a piece of shit left by a bad dog in the middle of the room

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Raised by a Canadian. No manners. I am just discussing ideas. Not the people, sam see small.

aw you gave me another pet name . .thats cute

i think instead of being apart of your semantics, ill just let you keep predicting it will be fun to re cap later on

Doer said:

Hey, who is worried? It is what it is. And IT ALL ADDS UP. Yeah, so what is to worry? A problem with good solutions and no will to apply it, is a different type of problem all together.

BTW, what has you holding your breath for a fusion breakthrough?

I certainly don't see a breakthrough. Sorta dead in the water seems to me.

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Yes it adds up, but at what level does it start affecting humans? Thats the real question. Right now in radiation protection we use linear, no-threshold dose response curve, stating that any exposure to radiation has a commensurate increase in risk. This works well and all in a regulatory fashion, but the truth is that there isn't enough science behind it.

Though in honor of this topic, I'll ask you, and anyone else that is scared of Fukushima, have you had your house tested for radon? If you're really scared of radiation, start with the one that is in your house. Radon is only second to tobacco for causes of lung cancer, and yet most people are unaware of it.

And if you think fusion is "dead in the water" you've not been following the physics world. It'll happen, just not anytime soon. Even the best industry estimates aren't looking at viable reactor for another ~30 years, then add on time to make it commercially worthwhile. But it will happen. Its basic nuclear physics really, the problem is in containing it.

DutchKillsRambo said:

Yes it adds up, but at what level does it start affecting humans? Thats the real question. Right now in radiation protection we use linear, no-threshold dose response curve, stating that any exposure to radiation has a commensurate increase in risk. This works well and all in a regulatory fashion, but the truth is that there isn't enough science behind it.

Though in honor of this topic, I'll ask you, and anyone else that is scared of Fukushima, have you had your house tested for radon? If you're really scared of radiation, start with the one that is in your house. Radon is only second to tobacco for causes of lung cancer, and yet most people are unaware of it.

And if you think fusion is "dead in the water" you've not been following the physics world. It'll happen, just not anytime soon. Even the best industry estimates aren't looking at viable reactor for another ~30 years, then add on time to make it commercially worthwhile. But it will happen. Its basic nuclear physics really, the problem is in containing it.

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Well, please cite your references. I do follow. I don't see a solution to the neutron flux ablation. I don't see a net/net/net positive output concept, much less a design.

So, if you have that, then why just talk? 30 years ago they said 30 years, seems like? So, containment is the only problem with no physics that I know of to solve it.

So, please cite a reference?

IAC, why say this is fear? It is a political discussion based on what they won't tell us and let me guess, so what? Who are the ones with the agenda? How long do think I will live one way or another?

I test for Radon and I have been thru CT scans every 6 months.

It all adds up. No amount is a little bit. Airline pilots get dosed and retired. It is all radio-death, and just living longer can naturally kill you with natural foods.

It all add up. I find it difficult to get it. The idea that this power will add fewer deaths than another type of power.

We have been doing everything we can to clean up.

Well, these Fukushima things happen and it all adds up. But, afraid?

Not in an anonymous idea discussion of something interesting.