Hello Everyone. I'm new to RIU. However I do have knowledge of the plant and I have started to understand this system with the help of everyone. Here is my plan or situation. The reason I'm posting is because I'm looking for information related to my exact cicumstances. The first thing is the purchasing of the system. I like the idea of the Sentine Modular Ebb and Grow which can be converted into drain to waste and complete drainage. However the 600 price tag does not include a rez. Thats okay though.Money isnt the issue the best system is what Im seeking. The room is twenty feet long by 4 feet wide. Can I go three wide with buckets that have the Power Plant?Or do they really need to be 10" Apart from eachother? Ideally I would like to have 30 pots for Power Plant and 16 pots for another strain??? Any comments or Questions?
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I would be using two different reservoirs with two different controllers for the flood and drain. And in the room will be 6 600 watt lights with digital lumateks. c02 at 1500ppm GH Nutes. AC. 8"Max Can Man. 3 18" Wall Mounted Fans, Enviorment Controller, adjust a wings with super spreaders... Just want to know how far apart the parts really need to be or if i can have them touching eachother. With the 30 or more plants i would use a 100 gallon rez
morrisgreenberg
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this system is best used for growing out larger plants, your not leaving yourself much room for maintenance if they are crowded together, you can touch pots but under canopy airflow will be restricted big time making room for problems that you wont be able to see until its too late. since the average user of these units veg atleast 2 weeks we all end up with 3ft plants and up, this is going to create significant sidebranching during flowering and the plants will be encroaching into its neighbor's space. the whole purpose of this system is freedom and flexibilty, you can have your pots touching in a SoG setup, but i would advise you to use flood tables for a sog. its my preference to have one pot in atleast a 2x2 space, so if i had your area i would go no more than 2 pots deep instead of 3, depending on strain that wont even be enough as i got some whiteberry buched out and they go like 3ft wide. plants grow fast and furious in these systems so expect tons of side growth, you can cut your hosing into a grid so each pot instead of being daisy chained can run of its own line from a few central hoses, this way you can bunch them together early and veg under less light and spread them apart as they get larger
mrduke
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shnkrmn
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I'm using foliage pro now and can't say enough good things about it. It's clean, cheap and concentrated. And it has more cal-mag than cannabis-specific nutes. I'm not using any cal-mag supplement with RO water and have seen no deficiencies since I started using foliage pro. I may not use a bloom formula at all.
COgrow
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New guy here about to start first grow. I've spent a ton of time on this thread but got some GREAT meds today and can't find an answer
. Hoping for help.
How much water should I use for the 12 pot set up with hydrotron 3" from the top? 6x6 expandable room with 1000w hps. (I made the investment, now time to make it work!)
. Hoping for help. How much water should I use for the 12 pot set up with hydrotron 3" from the top? 6x6 expandable room with 1000w hps. (I made the investment, now time to make it work!)
smokingrubber
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For a 6x6 room I would use 9 pots. I would fill the reservior with 45 gallons (5 gal per). I would veg them in that pot system for about 4 weeks. I would also probably veg 12 but toss or mother 3 of them. Just to be sure I got the best 9.New guy here about to start first grow. I've spent a ton of time on this thread but got some GREAT meds today and can't find an answer
How much water should I use for the 12 pot set up with hydrotron 3" from the top? 6x6 expandable room with 1000w hps. (I made the investment, now time to make it work!)
Tip: use a float shut-off valve on the barrel to achieve a consistant 45 gal. Then you can isolate the perfect nute recipe and repeat it consistantly.
mrduke
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You think you'll run the foliage in bloom by itself or add a booster like koolbloom or bigbud ect. ?
I got togo shopping andsee if i can find it locally. how long will a quart last, will it make a whole cycle, 10 weeks?
shnkrmn
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at 1/2 to 1 teaspoons/gallon it could last you depending on your needs.You think you'll run the foliage in bloom by itself or add a booster like koolbloom or bigbud ect. ?
I got togo shopping andsee if i can find it locally. how long will a quart last, will it make a whole cycle, 10 weeks?
I'm sitting on the fence right now about what to do in bloom. The plants I've got that just entered bloom are in the stretch right now and I'm still giving them foliage pro.. I've got a few products lying around including tiger bloom and whatever the bloom formula is that came in the 'recipe for success' from techniflora. I may go all the way with just the foliage pro. Anyway, those are in hempy buckets, so they're off topic for this thread
. I'm kind of pretending I'm not actually growing them
It's a process.
shnkrmn
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So I'm thinking about the coming warm months and res temps and how to manage them. I've always wanted a chest freezer and they are cheep, like 200 bucks. So if I put a copper coil in one and attached it to a pump inside my res, and my freezer was filled with deeply frozen stuff, would that work? It says it costs 37 dollars a year to run and i'm liking that. I haven't run across any setups like that. Seems like a diy water chiller could be had for little outlay. would it freeze up? Just thinking out loud here.
smokingrubber
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Or you could just freeze water bottles and rotate 2 or 3 a day?
Controlling your diy chiller would be a bitch imo. If you slowed down the water flow it would freeze. Finding balance between the amount of time it was in the reservior vs in your freezer... that's above my pay grade.
Controlling your diy chiller would be a bitch imo. If you slowed down the water flow it would freeze. Finding balance between the amount of time it was in the reservior vs in your freezer... that's above my pay grade.
morrisgreenberg
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no copper coils in water, ever see city building with green roofs? those roofs used to be copper and water and oxygemn turn them green, no metals in your water, hopefull you can bust out a crop and go pick up a polar bear 1/3HP chiller for like $400, this best investment you can make and its an insurance policy...this is my homeboy, dont buy those 1/10hp chillers for 500.....http://www.aquastealth.com/chillers.aspx he also has aqua via pumps for like 15beans to go with them
doogleef
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I was unable to get the foliage pro where i shop so I just got the grow/bloom. Just started on em a few weeks ago. So far I love it. I also picked up the Pro-Tect 0-0-3 (silica) additive and the Mag-Pro. The mag pro is really high K additive so I'm kinda scared of it. We shall see. Labels are in this album:
http://s851.photobucket.com/albums/ab78/ruidoogleef/
http://www.dyna-gro.com
EDIT: What I might try is just grow formula at about 2.0EC for veg then back off the grow formula to about 1.5EC and add a PK booster (more K, less P) for bloom. I like efficient.
http://s851.photobucket.com/albums/ab78/ruidoogleef/
http://www.dyna-gro.com
EDIT: What I might try is just grow formula at about 2.0EC for veg then back off the grow formula to about 1.5EC and add a PK booster (more K, less P) for bloom. I like efficient.
morrisgreenberg
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you guys love your dynagro big time ehh? if you never had it for my sake pick up a qt of PBP and cal mag, if you wanna splurge p/u sweet to, they are only 17bucks a qt, i promise you will never have seen healthy plants like this in your life, i will buy back your nutes if you dont like them. believe me i am a dynagro fan and i used everything except canna and AN
PBP + E&G = healthiest, tasties buds you ever had, i swear the guano in PBP make the hydro plant taste soil grown
PBP + E&G = healthiest, tasties buds you ever had, i swear the guano in PBP make the hydro plant taste soil grown
GreenThumbSucker
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I believe it is best to just fill the reservoir to about 50 gallons. You dont have to top off the reservoir as often or adjust the PH every day because the extra solution acts as a buffer. Your PPM will drift a lot less with more solution. When it is coming up on time to change it out, dont top if off or add nutes for a few days, it will drop down to half full in 3 or 4 days. That way you dont throw out huge amounts of solution.New guy here about to start first grow. I've spent a ton of time on this thread but got some GREAT meds today and can't find an answer
How much water should I use for the 12 pot set up with hydrotron 3" from the top? 6x6 expandable room with 1000w hps. (I made the investment, now time to make it work!)
shnkrmn
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I'm still in the honeymoon phase with dynagro, but the sex is great!
boxing119
Active Member
morrisgreenberg- im sorry im a bit of a newbie but i want to switch my nutes to the PBP but im not sure what to get when i go to the hydro storm can you just simply tell me everything im supposed ti get lol, im a little under 3 weeks into veg and just not sure what i should be running
boxing119
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC-zWp04cDM - my basement in a couple of months 