Flushing

mudballs said:

Nice..avant-opera...thank you (bows)

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twentyeight.threefive said:

Can we get some South Park memes up in here? Up in here?

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Scouse66 said:

Hi folks
I'm hearing so many different opinions on the best way to finish/flush so I thought I would ask the question on here.
What gives the best results?
1. Plain Water
2. A Flushing agent like CAnna Flush.
3. A finisher/flush like Nano 10 flusher.

I bought some Nano 10 but literally don't want to ruin things so close to the finish line.

Thanks in advance.

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Jafo232 said:

I have been thinking about this myself. Is there any other reason to flush besides if you're burning your plant with nutes by accident? I mean, really, is there any other PROVEN reason why we must flush our plants or stop feeding them before harvest?

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MAK1 said:

The whole thing is a nitrate question and not simply stopping all nutrients. That the story I got. This got me wondering about just that. To feed nitrates or other faster dorms? Does feeding nitrates through-out flower make denser buds than if I use ammonium and urea? I've noticed some fertilizers have nitrates some do not. THOUGHTS?

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My advice is if you are a new grower to try all these hotly debated things yourself. Then you can form your own opinion.

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ec121 said:

You don't flush to remove nutrients out of the buds or whatever is commonly cited. You cut nutrients to force the plant into senescence.

Senescence is a molecular mechanism that the plant understands. The plant's entire existence is to fruit in order to reproduce. When you deprive the plant of nutrients and the plant goes into senescence and realizes its life is coming to an end and hasn't yet been seeded, it stresses the plant out and forces the nutrients left in the plant to the tissues where the seeds are supposed to be but since there are no seeds, the resin glands get all that activity.

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MAK1 said:

Of course, we can not flush anything out of the plant, that has never been cited by any authority. Here's the bottom line on flushing at the end of a grow or any flushing. Flushing HERE at the end of the grow is to get rid of excess nitrogen. Some people may use the wrong nitrogen towards the end of a grow and these can be washed out of the DIRT so the plant won't overload with unprocessed nitrates just before you chop it down.
Nitrates can not be avoided completely because the plant is alive and that requires some nitrogen. If your soil is already full of ammonium and urea nitrogen those add to the uptake. Toward the end of the grow just stop feeding these more tightly bound nitrogen sources of urea and ammonium that take time for soil bacteria to breakdown to nitrates. Simply feed nitrates at the end, smaller amounts. Even much less but keep up the rest of the minerals.
Don't go doing silly stuff at the end like stop watering, stop feeding, or even shut off the lights. Drop the humidity and nighttime temps for 2 weeks prior to the chopping but nothing in the bro-science arena. This will move to plant toward end of life resin gland explosion. Look up foxtails and consider inducing these at the end for an increase in flowers at the end

if you want to try something different for massive increase in bud size, try plant chiropractic. Youtube, OK. Do this to a stem or 2 and wait a week to 10 days. You will start to be a big increase in bud size. DO NOT try this in flower for the first time, it takes experience to go snapping stems in flower. Because the stems are delicate and can't recover well while in flower practice this on strong vegging plants first. If you do this early end periodically your stems will be strong and flexible and the buds will end up 50% bigger in size compared the stems that were left alone.

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MAK1 said:

Of course, we can not flush anything out of the plant, that has never been cited by any authority. Here's the bottom line on flushing at the end of a grow or any flushing. Flushing HERE at the end of the grow is to get rid of excess nitrogen. Some people may use the wrong nitrogen towards the end of a grow and these can be washed out of the DIRT so the plant won't overload with unprocessed nitrates just before you chop it down.
Nitrates can not be avoided completely because the plant is alive and that requires some nitrogen. If your soil is already full of ammonium and urea nitrogen those add to the uptake. Toward the end of the grow just stop feeding these more tightly bound nitrogen sources of urea and ammonium that take time for soil bacteria to breakdown to nitrates. Simply feed nitrates at the end, smaller amounts. Even much less but keep up the rest of the minerals.
Don't go doing silly stuff at the end like stop watering, stop feeding, or even shut off the lights. Drop the humidity and nighttime temps for 2 weeks prior to the chopping but nothing in the bro-science arena. This will move to plant toward end of life resin gland explosion. Look up foxtails and consider inducing these at the end for an increase in flowers at the end

if you want to try something different for massive increase in bud size, try plant chiropractic. Youtube, OK. Do this to a stem or 2 and wait a week to 10 days. You will start to be a big increase in bud size. DO NOT try this in flower for the first time, it takes experience to go snapping stems in flower. Because the stems are delicate and can't recover well while in flower practice this on strong vegging plants first. If you do this early end periodically your stems will be strong and flexible and the buds will end up 50% bigger in size compared the stems that were left alone.

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VincenzioVonHook said:

why haven't all my supercropped branches with snaps, splits and whatnot ended up as horse hogs beside chipolatas? I want my money back lol. They've just grown in a different direction instead.

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MAK1 said:

Chiropractic is not supper cropping. Twisting a stem until you hear it snap is very much less destructive than snapping and folding a stem in super cropping. I don't know what horse hogs are but I'm gonna guess you mean big. I grow some buds the size of pop cans, it takes lots of minerals and the right strain.

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Thundercat said:

These plants have at least 3 weeks before they will be properly ripe, possibly 4 weeks. They are currently still covered in white stigma which means they are still growing those buds. Here is how you tell when your plants are finished.

The signs of ripeness are pretty standard for cannabis plants.

First a few of the pistils begin turning color and start receding. Your plant is just starting to ripen. Depending on the strain you could still have two months to go. We're just starting this journey.

Two to four weeks later you'll notice that most of the pistils(>80%) have now changed color and curled back into the bud. It's frosty, way bigger than it was a few weeks ago(aren't you glad you waited), and smells dank! It's time, right? Not a chance killer. Patience is a virtue.

Over the next 2-3 weeks it doesn't look much different, maybe a little more swelling in the calyxes, and the rest of the pistils change over, but the stems are starting to bend under the weight of the buds. These ladies are putting on weight internally by adding density and now the buds are doing their final ripening.

Now you begin looking at trichomes, on the calyx, not the leaves, and harvest according to your preference. When looking at trichomes it’s essential to look at them from the side. The bulbous heads can magnify the opaque stalk under it. Looking from the side allows you to more accurately see the condition of the resin in the trichome head.

There is still no rush to harvest, the window just opened, and you have several weeks before you MIGHT start having to think about it possibly beginning to get too ripe. It takes WEEKS for plants to mature not days.

It is very easy to harvest a plant to early. It is very hard to harvest a plant to late. I’ve never seen someone accidentally wait too long.

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MAK1 said:

Of course, we can not flush anything out of the plant, that has never been cited by any authority. Here's the bottom line on flushing at the end of a grow or any flushing. Flushing HERE at the end of the grow is to get rid of excess nitrogen. Some people may use the wrong nitrogen towards the end of a grow and these can be washed out of the DIRT so the plant won't overload with unprocessed nitrates just before you chop it down.
Nitrates can not be avoided completely because the plant is alive and that requires some nitrogen. If your soil is already full of ammonium and urea nitrogen those add to the uptake. Toward the end of the grow just stop feeding these more tightly bound nitrogen sources of urea and ammonium that take time for soil bacteria to breakdown to nitrates. Simply feed nitrates at the end, smaller amounts. Even much less but keep up the rest of the minerals.

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BenGman said:

I remember when my sister looked after a plant, she absolutely nuked the fuck out of it so bad the smoke was putrid, i honestly wouldn't know if even a flush would have made it any better but who fucking cares, flushing not flushing it's all about your own personal preference, a bitch can sook to me all day about not to flush and I'll still do it just to annoy the cunt regardless it doesn't matter so long as it's ready to be yanked

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