Flushing question, no debates please.

Johnny Lawrence said:

how many have you posted?

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That's cute. Look, buddy. Your buds aren't any better than anyone who stops feeding 5 or 6. Sorry. You can roll your science up and go now. What I asked was simple. Show me where feeding more is that beneficial enough for you to belittle someone who flushes. You can't do it. I'm not arguing a scientific point here.

Bugeye said:

Not feeding and flushing are very different. Flushing on this site is defined as putting about 3X pot volume of water through your pots.

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Flushing isn't "defined" as anything, dude. On this site perhaps. If I run 2 through it, I'm calling that a flush regardless of what some well known member has to say about it on Rollitup. Does it also specify that it's 3x for all medium? What about hydro... or coco?

Elvin Bishop said:

Flushing isn't "defined" as anything, dude. On this site perhaps. If I run 2 through it, I'm calling that a flush regardless of what some well known member has to say about it on Rollitup. Does it also specify that it's 3x for all medium? What about hydro... or coco?

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Secondly, nothing is defined as "about" something. Try again.

wow, that was a lot of wasted time. hhaha. You guys are more than welcome to grow weed however you want, but you really can't say someone is wrong when you can't produce anything better based on your school of thought. You gentleman have a nice day.

Elvin Bishop said:

Secondly, nothing is defined as "about" something. Try again.

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Here is the RIU definition: Flush - the act of cleansing a plant’s roots of nutrients and contaminants by giving the
plant large amounts of water (usually equal to 3 times the volume of soil the plant is in).

With a common definition we can all talk about the same thing.

I just had to flush my toilet twice. Too much fiber last nite I guess.

rkymtnman said:

I just had to flush my toilet twice. Too much fiber last nite I guess.

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I usually do it every morning, but I'm a fan of flushing.

Elvin Bishop said:

Waiting to see those 40 or 35% bigger more bad ass buds. That much heavier, too. Clowns. I'm looking for something about as big around as a telephone poll. It better no be anything near the size of a thigh or calf muscle, because that has been done with flushing at week 5 for decades. Lets see it.

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yah, me too, I wanna see the 35% bigger buds, show me

Elvin Bishop said:

wow, that was a lot of wasted time. hhaha. You guys are more than welcome to grow weed however you want, but you really can't say someone is wrong when you can't produce anything better based on your school of thought. You gentleman have a nice day.

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Yes you have wasted a lot of our time.

I grow 10-12 week hybrids so your 40% argument does not apply.

And my soil is fully depleted by around week 3-4 in 3 gallon pots so I start adding nutrients each watering.

I have experimented with not feeding the last week. The last 2 weeks and only tapering feed strength down until the end.

Feeding what they need to the end always gives the best flavor, smell and potency. Also more complex cannabanoid profile.

I don't have my test pics as they are in old computers and phones because this is a beginner pot growers argument and not even a subject in horticulture.

Greenhouses in food and flower production stop feeding the last week on average to save money. They don't care about the highest quality and you can get away with that with a healthy plant.

Also you mentioned adding PK. This is a myth. The plants needs do not really change through their cycle.

I grew this plant with Ocean forest and Pure Blend Grow only to the last watering.

My yield has doubled since I stopped following "feeding schedules" and "flushing". And flavor and potency and smell are much better if you get it right.

Let's see your "flushed" results. You are way over your head here.



She was vegged under fluorescents for about 40 days from seed and flowered 10.5 weeks under a 600w hps.

She produced 6oz dense buds and the #3 nursery pot she is in is only 2.5 gallons of actual soil.

Trichomes are as close to 100% cloudy as I could see.

What do you got?

jonsnow399 said:

yah, me too, I wanna see the 35% bigger buds, show me

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no no, nice try. I'm talking about bigger buds because you fed them longer. In comparison, show me the benefit. You're the one feeding 35% or so longer.. not me, homie

MichiganMedGrower said:

Yes you have wasted a lot of our time.

I grow 10-12 week hybrids so your 40% argument does not apply.

And my soil is fully depleted by around week 3-4 in 3 gallon pots so I start adding nutrients each watering.

I have experimented with not feeding the last week. The last 2 weeks and only tapering feed strength down until the end.

Feeding what they need to the end always gives the best flavor, smell and potency. Also more complex cannabanoid profile.

I don't have my test pics as they are in old computers and phones because this is a beginner pot growers argument and not even a subject in horticulture.

Greenhouses in food and flower production stop feeding the last week on average to save money. They don't care about the highest quality and you can get away with that with a healthy plant.

Also you mentioned adding PK. This is a myth. The plants needs do not really change through their cycle.

I grew this plant with Ocean forest and Pure Blend Grow only to the last watering.

My yield has doubled since I followed "feeding schedules" and "flushing". And flavor and potency and smell are much better if you get it right.

Let's see your "flushed" results. You are way over your head here.

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She was vegged under fluorescents for about 40 days from seed and flowered 10.5 weeks under a 600w hps.

She produced 6oz dense buds and the #3 nursery pot she is in is only 2.5 gallons of actual soil.

Trichomes are as close to 100% cloudy as I could see.

What do you got?

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and you think that is because you fed longer, right?

MichiganMedGrower said:

Yes you have wasted a lot of our time.

I grow 10-12 week hybrids so your 40% argument does not apply.

And my soil is fully depleted by around week 3-4 in 3 gallon pots so I start adding nutrients each watering.

I have experimented with not feeding the last week. The last 2 weeks and only tapering feed strength down until the end.

Feeding what they need to the end always gives the best flavor, smell and potency. Also more complex cannabanoid profile.

I don't have my test pics as they are in old computers and phones because this is a beginner pot growers argument and not even a subject in horticulture.

Greenhouses in food and flower production stop feeding the last week on average to save money. They don't care about the highest quality and you can get away with that with a healthy plant.

Also you mentioned adding PK. This is a myth. The plants needs do not really change through their cycle.

I grew this plant with Ocean forest and Pure Blend Grow only to the last watering.

My yield has doubled since I followed "feeding schedules" and "flushing". And flavor and potency and smell are much better if you get it right.

Let's see your "flushed" results. You are way over your head here.

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She was vegged under fluorescents for about 40 days from seed and flowered 10.5 weeks under a 600w hps.

She produced 6oz dense buds and the #3 nursery pot she is in is only 2.5 gallons of actual soil.

Trichomes are as close to 100% cloudy as I could see.

What do you got?

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I have a couple pics posted in "how big is your plant" and they aren't that big. 8 inches tall and another that was 13. I flushed them at 5 weeks and pulled about 3.5 oz from both of them dry. What's your height, area and amount of nutrients and money spent? I got about 3.5 out of about 21 inches vertical and 2 sq ft. Dude, there's nothing new about buds that size. Are you for real?

MichiganMedGrower said:

Yes you have wasted a lot of our time.

I grow 10-12 week hybrids so your 40% argument does not apply.

And my soil is fully depleted by around week 3-4 in 3 gallon pots so I start adding nutrients each watering.

I have experimented with not feeding the last week. The last 2 weeks and only tapering feed strength down until the end.

Feeding what they need to the end always gives the best flavor, smell and potency. Also more complex cannabanoid profile.

I don't have my test pics as they are in old computers and phones because this is a beginner pot growers argument and not even a subject in horticulture.

Greenhouses in food and flower production stop feeding the last week on average to save money. They don't care about the highest quality and you can get away with that with a healthy plant.

Also you mentioned adding PK. This is a myth. The plants needs do not really change through their cycle.

I grew this plant with Ocean forest and Pure Blend Grow only to the last watering.

My yield has doubled since I followed "feeding schedules" and "flushing". And flavor and potency and smell are much better if you get it right.

Let's see your "flushed" results. You are way over your head here.

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She was vegged under fluorescents for about 40 days from seed and flowered 10.5 weeks under a 600w hps.

She produced 6oz dense buds and the #3 nursery pot she is in is only 2.5 gallons of actual soil.

Trichomes are as close to 100% cloudy as I could see.

What do you got?

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Nice buds Mich but if you didn't flush, that smoke is gonna be harsh and won't burn correctly.

Elvin Bishop said:

and you think that is because you fed longer, right?

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I just told you I experimented with this. I am positive it is not just feeding to the end but supplying the proper amount of nutrients for each stage. And each different plant.

I mix for and water each plant in my perpetual individually according to their needs. All my plants are staggared a week or two apart so I harvest a plant every week or two for years now.

I have done side by sides for many silly forum/industry myths.

LST. Pruning. Defoliation. Veg time. Etc.

I have even replaced my full spectrum lighting with hps only like the beginning to really be sure what benefits I got from them.

I did side by sides but the halides were still in the same room.

This plant is my life. And always has been. And it is saving Mrs. MMG's life by eliminating internal life long cysts that are over 50% gone or reduced and verified it was our cannabis oil by her doctor.

What have you done to be sure?

jonsnow399 said:

Nice buds Mich but if you didn't flush, that smoke is gonna be harsh and won't burn correctly.

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Yeah that was some awful tasting crap!

Elvin Bishop said:

I have a couple pics posted in "how big is your plant" and they aren't that big. 8 inches tall and another that was 13. I flushed them at 5 weeks and pulled about 3.5 oz from both of them dry. What's your height, area and amount of nutrients and money spent? I got about 3.5 out of about 21 inches vertical and 2 sq ft. Dude, there's nothing new about buds that size. Are you for real?

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I posted in that thread but your pics don't show up for me. I just looked again.

Post here.

MichiganMedGrower said:

Yes you have wasted a lot of our time.

I grow 10-12 week hybrids so your 40% argument does not apply.

And my soil is fully depleted by around week 3-4 in 3 gallon pots so I start adding nutrients each watering.

I have experimented with not feeding the last week. The last 2 weeks and only tapering feed strength down until the end.

Feeding what they need to the end always gives the best flavor, smell and potency. Also more complex cannabanoid profile.


I don't have my test pics as they are in old computers and phones because this is a beginner pot growers argument and not even a subject in horticulture.

Greenhouses in food and flower production stop feeding the last week on average to save money. They don't care about the highest quality and you can get away with that with a healthy plant.

Also you mentioned adding PK. This is a myth. The plants needs do not really change through their cycle.

I grew this plant with Ocean forest and Pure Blend Grow only to the last watering.

My yield has doubled since I followed "feeding schedules" and "flushing". And flavor and potency and smell are much better if you get it right.

Let's see your "flushed" results. You are way over your head here.

View attachment 4001493 View attachment 4001494 View attachment 4001495

She was vegged under fluorescents for about 40 days from seed and flowered 10.5 weeks under a 600w hps.

She produced 6oz dense buds and the #3 nursery pot she is in is only 2.5 gallons of actual soil.

Trichomes are as close to 100% cloudy as I could see.

What do you got?

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always respect your grows and your tips,, your a good brother


edit,, that reminds me i need to go check evils thread today

Elvin Bishop said:

I have a couple pics posted in "how big is your plant" and they aren't that big. 8 inches tall and another that was 13. I flushed them at 5 weeks and pulled about 3.5 oz from both of them dry. What's your height, area and amount of nutrients and money spent? I got about 3.5 out of about 21 inches vertical and 2 sq ft. Dude, there's nothing new about buds that size. Are you for real?

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My plants are normally 30"x30" max mature and trained.

I only use a gallon of pure Blend Pro every 4 months on 12 perpetually rotating plants.

I produce 16-22 oz per month with 250 watts of fluorescents in veg in a 3'x3' tent and 1200 watts of hps in flower over a 3.5'x7' area.

And I have gotten 7.5 oz from a 24" x 24" plant soil I wouldn't brag on a forum of life long growers without current proof and better results than a micro Grow. Instead I learned from the growers I respect.

And I wanted to show you quality. Your theory is not correct about nutrients. There is plenty of science showing you are wrong. And plenty of growers.

I don't Grow for yield. It is a side effect of good gardening. I don't do anything different for almost 3 years now. Just had a lot of practice.

My yields have more than doubled. And the quality is now where I wanted it.

Keep on flushing'

Tim Fox said:

always respect your grows and your tips,, your a good brother


edit,, that reminds me i need to go check evils thread today

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Thanks Tim!

MichiganMedGrower said:

Thanks Tim!

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anytime ,

all this talk about flushing makes me want to jump in the pool,, its like 95 here,, dang,, SPLASH DOWN
man this GG4 is kicken my ass,, its been in the jars for one year,, freaky