flushing-am i doing it right ?

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althor

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SPLFreak808 said:
Just by experience, im going to tell you now that flushing organics is a bad idea,when you flush organics not only will you take a yield cut,the bud actually wont come out as good either. Try it for yourself or save your time and forget about flushing. If you have ever grown in organic soil you will notice the plant will automatically use its stored nutrients towards the end of flower naturally no flushing needed.
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If you flush at the proper time there is no yield loss. If your buds are still swelling, they arent ready to be flushed. If you have properly fed your plant up until flush, there will be plenty of nutrients stored in leaves to feed them what they need. If flushed properly the leaves will be turning yellow 2 days before cut so only 48 hours of "unfed" buds that stopped swelling several days ago.
But I am all for people growing however they feel best. So to each their own.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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althor said:
If you flush at the proper time there is no yield loss. If your buds are still swelling, they arent ready to be flushed. If you have properly fed your plant up until flush, there will be plenty of nutrients stored in leaves to feed them what they need. If flushed properly the leaves will be turning yellow 2 days before cut so only 48 hours of "unfed" buds that stopped swelling several days ago.
But I am all for people growing however they feel best. So to each their own.
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great, so you supposedly flushed the leaves clean, what does that do for the bud? when does that turn yellow and nute free?
 
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althor

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chuck estevez said:
great, so you supposedly flushed the leaves clean, what does that do for the bud? when does that turn yellow and nute free?
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I just want the lower nitrogen content in the soil to give that little extra boost to my thc levels. Every little thing counts.
 
Son of a collier

Son of a collier

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I'm tighter than a ducks arse when it comes to paying for and using nutes..
i know the npk ratios are roughly 3n : 2p: 1k then flip lights onto 12/12 and give 2n: 3p: 2k and then finally n1: p2: k3.
i only feed with every other watering and even then if the girls look happy i leave the feed until i water next time...i'm paranoid of over fertilising and over watering it's cost me dearly on other grows, if i find i have a plant stop developing/growing its usually over watering so i pull the whole plant complete with pot shaped roots out and wrap it in a large cotton dust sheet, stand it overnight and capillary action draws a majority of the excess moisture away..pop it back in the pot, i use sea weed and molasses in every other feed, its great stress prevention
for the plants..anyway i was saying how miserly i am..... a 1lire grow bloom and top max cost 32 quid and i can squeeeeeze 3 grows with 8 plants in each out of them D
 
Enigmatic Ways

Enigmatic Ways

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taGyo said:
Dude, didn't you come into the thread spouting all that nonsense at Qwizo and Chuck and other more experienced growers?

I'm saying you can't even say those additives will help because you yourself have not done a side by side grow, additives versus no additives, you're just going off what AN and other AN users are saying. You're on the wrong side of the fence lol, you can use AN and all the additives you want but what do you say to people who are using no additives and getting frostier, bigger buds? Environment is key to great buds, good nutrients are great but we sometimes forget that some of the best shit in the world is just planted in the ground in Africa or the Hindu Kush Valley where they're not getting Overdrive or Big Bud.

If you read the label and say "Wow this works!" because you've run one grow with those genetics and got big buds then you that's not proving anything. Do two grows bro, one with AN nutes and one with other nutes like people like Homebrewer have done and then come back and say these additives help. All I see is a lack of ingredients and 99% water for 1% B-2 or some shit. Have you read the Dyna-Gro vs GH and Dyna-Gro vs AN?

I'm not even advocating Dyna-Gro but I'm just trying to open your eyes. Weed is NOT an exotic orchid that only eats A B and C and needs to be watered twice a day and massaged and shit. It's just a plant. I've seen that shit grow in cracks in the pavement 'cause it found some dirt and said "Yeah, this'll do." All you're doing with these additives is subscribing to a name and brand.

I have a bottle of Big Bud bro, don't worry, I'll test it out.
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I've seen it with my very own eyes, buddies who were growing before without beneficial bacteria, enzymes, so on and so forth for years and when they started to use them it was like night and day in some cases they were having increases of 15%-35%. And seeing how healthy my plants are I seem to be on the same trajectory! But at the end of the day to each his own.
 
taGyo

taGyo

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LOL.
"You're dumb."
"No you're dumb."
Kindergarten was fun :wink:

Keep sending AN those fat paychecks mayne. Maybe one day you'll make some money.
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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althor said:
I just want the lower nitrogen content in the soil to give that little extra boost to my thc levels. Every little thing counts.
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Anything excessive will drop your thc levels.
althor said:
If you flush at the proper time there is no yield loss. If your buds are still swelling, they arent ready to be flushed. If you have properly fed your plant up until flush, there will be plenty of nutrients stored in leaves to feed them what they need. If flushed properly the leaves will be turning yellow 2 days before cut so only 48 hours of "unfed" buds that stopped swelling several days ago.
But I am all for people growing however they feel best. So to each their own.
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You flush 48hrs before harvest? What have you accomplished from a flush 48h before harvest if i may ask? How did you compare? Not organic?[/QUOTE]
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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Enigmatic Ways said:
I've seen it with my very own eyes, buddies who were growing before without beneficial bacteria, enzymes, so on and so forth for years and when they started to use them it was like night and day in some cases they were having increases of 15%-35%. And seeing how healthy my plants are I seem to be on the same trajectory! But at the end of the day to each his own.
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15-35% increase in yield? Size? Going from synthetic to beneficial organic soil?
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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taGyo said:
He has no idea what he's talking about lol. I doubt he even knows other growers.
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i don't want to knock other people's knowledge lol, but some peole need to realize there alot of misinformation on google. The damn plant hasnt even been studied enough yet! You cant just read everything on google and think you can grow you know what i mean. im open to advice but only from the big boys they have some major shit on RIU. As my sig says, where amateurs become pro's overnight lol. One day someone's asking about his yield, the next day he's teaching how to grow pounds!
 
Darth Vapour

Darth Vapour

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Flushing is for noobs that either fed plants to much or go by the internet bible.. Well they do it,,so i have to as well
this is just crazy stuff i dunno who came up with Flushing idea dam farmers must just be busy as hell flushing there crops prior to harvest or potato farmers WTF peeps
i have flushed a couple times in the past , and seen know difference in either flush or non flushed lets not forget the plant actually broke down the nutrients and converted it to its own use there fore your not smoking actual nutrients that you fed your plants to begin with
a person vegges for 3 - 5 weeks flowers them and expects to rid the plant of its nutrients in last 2 weeks hahaha that has got to be the funniest myth of all time ..
or the yellowing of the plants hahaha guys keep plant as healthy as possible though out all stages and she will reward you tri fold starve the plants or watch plant suffer by yellowing off and thinking its normal lol is just plain stupidity on your part plants need NPK in all stages and up to chop day if you see your plant starting to yellow off give them a extra shot of N in flowering stage trust me you wlll thank me later
Don't deprive it
God gave you all a brain fucking use it once in a while dont go by what he does or she


MJ is a Annual and do not yellow off come end of season ,, perennials on other hand sense winter coming so to conserve energy they will purposely yellow off leafs and drop them same thing applies for trees
Here one of my organic water fed only plant day 30 healthy and will be healthy come chop day only rain water fed that is how a plant should look not some mis fit yellowing wilting plant either over ferted or under fertilized ..
this is what seperates the good growers to the wanna be good growers IMG2374.jpgIMG2374.jpg
 
Darth Vapour

Darth Vapour

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althor said:
I just want the lower nitrogen content in the soil to give that little extra boost to my thc levels. Every little thing counts.
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think about it for a second organics meaning what and what is the fasted thing to get depleted in organic soils its N
also one of the easiest to leach from soil if you have proper organic soil there is no need to flush and with only water being given to soil where is the excess nutrients comeing from ????
Microlife is eating the N and you are leaching probably some N as well if you water to run off
i do not runoff that is wasting my soil
 
Enigmatic Ways

Enigmatic Ways

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SPLFreak808 said:
15-35% increase in yield? Size? Going from synthetic to beneficial organic soil?
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I knew people who were using both, a few people I knew was running a simple organic soil mix and some others running hydro with just the base nutrients from general hydroponics, and in both cases the increase was observed when adding things like Mycorrhiza, Potassium silicate, Trichoderma and others.
 
taGyo

taGyo

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RIU is honestly one of the most toxic weed forums ever lol.

Enigmatic Ways said:
I knew people who were using both, a few people I knew was running a simple organic soil mix and some others running hydro with just the base nutrients from general hydroponics, and in both cases the increase was observed when adding things like Mycorrhiza, Potassium silicate, Trichoderma and others.
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Lol, I'm talking about your overdrive, big bud, b-52, bud candy, bud factor x, flawless finish.

All this shit: http://www.advancednutrients.com/products/all-products/

Not actual beneficials.
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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Enigmatic Ways said:
I knew people who were using both, a few people I knew was running a simple organic soil mix and some others running hydro with just the base nutrients from general hydroponics, and in both cases the increase was observed when adding things like Mycorrhiza, Potassium silicate, Trichoderma and others.
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mycorrhiza was added to hydro?
 
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