flushing-am i doing it right ?

jwreck

jwreck

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last post and im done.
too much N during bloom will retard flowering and reduce yield. if you have over fed with synthetics it would be a good idea to flush with a light nute mix not just plain water. again i never flush because i dont overfeed but if your leaves are dark green from excess N you might want to.
the amount of days drying and the curing are the most important factors in taste and smell.
AGAIN DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU! if your growing dank your way keep on doing what you do but dont tell someone they are doing it wrong just cuz you have a different method.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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jwreck said:
dude you must be lonely and need attention. my first post asked the OP if farmers that grow organically ever flush and that flushing is only neccesary if growing synthetically and the plant is over fed.
i also didnt say that chlorine would kill the plant- what i said is that you cant flush a living soil because even if you run gallons of water thru it the microbes are still going to be eating n shitting whats in the soil providing nutes to the plant making it pointless. i also stated that the last 2 weeks are critical( guess you missed that too)
you guys are making the same argument im making.
I NEVER FLUSH! big capital letters so you can understand, too bad i cant draw a picture for you
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1 NO
2 NO - flushing is never "necessary"
3 Chlorine - I never said anything in any answer about chlorine = do you even have the right guy your slinging shit at?
4 over watering will hit the microbes kinda hard and can cause anaerobic conditions = dying plant

Were not arguing with YOU....We're arguing with those that don't agree with YOU and us!

You can shove your insult sonny!

sorry if you misunderstood

Doc
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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jwreck said:
the whole flushing thing is for people that grow synthetically and have over fed the plant.. key word(overfed) its not that complicated
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AH,,,I see your confusion.......I did not "attack" your post I quoted a few pages back, ok?
I only supplied quality information from years and years of experience.....

I said I disagree - With this assumption!
Over the years I have found that "flushing" an overfeed situation is not "needed" to cure the problem.....You can "water it out". Simply by watering with straight pHed to 6.5 water......If I feel the plant needs it, some Ca/Mg......I found that the plant recovers faster then a "flush" and is far less "stressed", then having it's roots wet for days at a time. Most often when overfeeding happens the problems are not just what some figure as salt build up (not as much as you think) but, lockouts from pH problems are very common side effects that are being expressed......You gave a problem here- that "flushing" will make worse!

I never "insulted" you (I just said I disagree), so just why did YOU insult me?

Doc
 
hellmutt bones

hellmutt bones

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Yes my brotha was fuqing with some of you guys.
My last post was the plant metabolism.
And yes PLEASE JUST FUCKING FLUSH ALREADY!!!!
 
hellmutt bones

hellmutt bones

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Udate my brother never did shit on my acc and if you go back a few post it scrambled some of the post on this tread.. wtf?? Some ppl here said that it wasnt them that said that.
 
Urbz

Urbz

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So if I use water only am I flushing? Should I stop watering my plants? Will that hurt my yield?
 
Gary Goodson

Gary Goodson

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Urbz said:
So if I use water only am I flushing? Should I stop watering my plants? Will that hurt my yield?
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I see your sarcasm, but to answer your question. No, water only is not flushing. Flushing is when you run 3 times the amount of water through the medium. So a 5 gallon pot would require 15 gallons of water.

What you're doing is just watering your plants, but I'm pretty sure you already know this...
 
Urbz

Urbz

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Gary Goodson said:
I see your sarcasm, but to answer your question. No, water only is not flushing. Flushing is when you run 3 times the amount of water through the medium. So a 5 gallon pot would require 15 gallons of water.

What you're doing is just watering your plants, but I'm pretty sure you already know this...
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Failed attempt at trolling. I hang my head in shame.
 
Jimmy Sparkle

Jimmy Sparkle

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Dr. Who said:
Where do you start with this?

It is sad that sooo many "experts" have bought into this "myth". That's right-"MYTH"!
Growers in major magazines spout it. Book authors spout it......That doesn't make it right!
I went out to Cali in the early 70's and lived on a commune or collective, north of Frisco.....It was a magical time! The Dead, dose's and big tittied hippie chick's everwhere (My wife say's I still get a hard on from smelling Patchouli). I met a really cool guy who was growing on this "collective". This guy was beginning to breed and had no problem teaching me the "ropes" of growing..I followed his methods with great care and became an excepted grower of some fine weeds. Flushing was a given as the road to quality tasting smoke. This "guy" began to draw attention to his work by the 5O.....He left and we kept in touch......

Years later he is in Amsterdam, a world class breeder and seed maker. I spent time with him this past winter....We spent time arguing on our favorite disagreement - FLUSHING!

Over the years I took the time to TRY new things with an open mind - All sort's of things. I took time to research the science behind some of these things and the reality of the science behind them...I tried side by sides and flushing is one...

I have news for you....This "flushing" thing is BUNK, BULL SHIT, HORSE HOCKEY, and NOTHING MORE THEN A MYTH, brought on by well meaning people from a bygone age, using logic . That is trumped by science that was not even considered all those years ago!

Flushing is so ingrained into many of these so called "experts" from these old days with the modern grower looking back and seeing these guys as growing "gods". If they say to flush, well then it must be true and no other thought is given to it!

Greg, Jorge, Logan, Stitch and Ryan to name some, Not to mention The "REV" or Danny Danko. All spout or have at one time, that you must "flush"......They can not be more wrong......There is NO "must".

Flushing takes the nutrition away from the plant when some nutrition is most important! This old school, left over myth must die!
IT'S ALL IN THE DRY AND CURE, for that clean taste and burn your looking for.

NEXT. To those that say, I've tried it and in my side by side's, I've tasted a difference! That's because in the science of your brain. IT found one. Because it was looking for one! In testing new products for market. Years ago, a major testing and marketing company. Found that people would FIND a difference in a product being tested along side others for comparison. EVEN IF THE PRODUCTS BEING GIVEN,,,,,WERE THE SAME THING!!! The mind will FIND a difference if given that task.....Even if NONE exists!

Nowhere in plant science is anything ever "flushed" in growing it for whatever reason......The "curing" of fine tobacco's is a science unto it's self! Why is Cannabis different? It's NOT!

If you "feel" you must. Well then, do what you "must" but, once at least. Find a "proper" curing method, grow the plant out with out a "flush" and try that for quality and yield......

Doc
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Big tittied hippy chicks and patchouli. I would love to hear that story one day .!!!!
 
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