Flush or not

littlegiant

littlegiant

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Folks! Are we talking DWC growing or soil? If its soil, sure there is no need for flushing unless you want to. If its DWC and you don't flush then you are fuckin retard if you think it will turn out smokeable.
 
caherbgrower

caherbgrower

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This topic gets heated quickly doesn't it? Everyone has a method that works for them. I work in a vineyard that produces grenache syrah mouvedre chardonnay and sauvignon blanc. I wouldn't say we flush before harvest because it's impossible to leach all of the nutrients out of the soil. But we do only use pure water for the last month of fruit set.
 
AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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That's not what I've seen in the farms I've been too, I thought crop rotation was to ADD nutrients to the soil. Also, nitrogen should be used very little in flower unless you're experiencing a n deficiency. That's why bloom nutes have low N levels.
 
Steele_GreenMan

Steele_GreenMan

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althor said:
What so many of you seem to not grasp, and this comes from someone whose family have been farmers since they arrived in America 200 years ago, when a crop finishes, the SOIL IS DEPLETED OF NUTRIENTS. That is one of the reason farmers rotate crops. So there is no need to flush soil that is already depleted of nutrients.
Not sure why that is so hard to grasp for non-farmers.

Ever drive past a field of corn near harvest? Notice how all the green has turned yellow and brown right before harvest? That is because it is feeding off itself at that point and farmers are NOT adding nutrients.

There has also been a study that PROVES the higher the nitrogen level in soil at the end of harvest, the lower the THC percentage. It was a very useful study for hemp growers. They purposefully keep nitrogen levels high to keep thc levels in hemp low.
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Corn turns brown because of the time of year, not lack of nutrients.

Corn fields are fertilized once with a 20 20 20 blend when they are less than knee high

Crops ARE rotated, but not every year, more like every 5.

I would love to see sprayerthat can drive over a seven to eight foot tall field lmao
 
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althor

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I am not talking about the tassels. I am talking about the plant itself. Same as all plants, when they lack nitrogen (and other nutes) they feed off the leaves.
 
Steele_GreenMan

Steele_GreenMan

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The purpose of rotation is, certain crops take up different amounts of nutrient than others

When the field is depleted by corn after time, hay is sown

Hay also leaves different nutrients available in soil at the end of harvest when what's left decays oveer autumn

Doing this varies the nutrients available in the soil, allowing it to recover
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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AlphaPhase said:
That's not what I've seen in the farms I've been too, I thought crop rotation was to ADD nutrients to the soil. Also, nitrogen should be used very little in flower unless you're experiencing a n deficiency. That's why bloom nutes have low N levels.
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I use veg nutes start to finish, just as flushing products are nonsense, so are bloom nutes. i prefer a healthy green plant at ALL phases of flower.
 
Steele_GreenMan

Steele_GreenMan

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althor said:
I am not talking about the tassels. I am talking about the plant itself. Same as all plants, when they lack nitrogen (and other nutes) they feed off the leaves.
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Once again, that's not the case

Nitrogen doesn't magically leave the field en masse, but the plant stops taking it up. Corn has been genetically alterd to die when it hits maturity.

Why? So there are never viable seeds (monsatan)

Corn reacts to the time of year and temperature decides to fuit, turns brown in the fall

Like I said, we fertilize corn once very early, it's not lack of nitrogen from farmers "stopping fertilization" because for us it happens once and that's enough for the whole cycle
 
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AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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I use a one part nute from start to finish as well. I only lower the ppm the last 10 days or so when they are not eating at full strength anymore.


chuck estevez said:
I use veg nutes start to finish, just as flushing products are nonsense, so are bloom nutes. i prefer a healthy green plant at ALL phases of flower.
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althor

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Steele_GreenMan said:
Once again, that's not the case

Nitrogen doesn't magically leave the field en masse, but the plant stops taking it up. Corn has been genetically alterd to die when it hits maturity.

Why? So there are never viable seeds (monsatan)

Corn reacts to the time of year and temperature decides to fuit, turns brown in the fall

Like I said, we fertilize corn once very early, it's not lack of nitrogen from farmers "stopping fertilization" because for us it happens once and that's enough for the whole cycle
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Uh, ok man.... Whatever you say...

Just like farmers use 20/20/20... Yeah right.... So if they are in an area with high nitrogen they are just tossing more nitrogen on top of it because farmers use 20/20/20....

Corn depletes the shit out of the soil, thanks.

Where I am from we take soil samples to the local co-op and have it tested then add amendments to the soil depending on the crop.
 
Marlo95

Marlo95

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althor said:
What so many of you seem to not grasp, and this comes from someone whose family have been farmers since they arrived in America 200 years ago, when a crop finishes, the SOIL IS DEPLETED OF NUTRIENTS. That is one of the reason farmers rotate crops. So there is no need to flush soil that is already depleted of nutrients.
Not sure why that is so hard to grasp for non-farmers.

Ever drive past a field of corn near harvest? Notice how all the green has turned yellow and brown right before harvest? That is because it is feeding off itself at that point and farmers are NOT adding nutrients.

There has also been a study that PROVES the higher the nitrogen level in soil at the end of harvest, the lower the THC percentage. It was a very useful study for hemp growers. They purposefully keep nitrogen levels high to keep thc levels in hemp low.
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I use floranova bloom which has 4% nitrogen. I just looked at all my nutrients and almost everyone has nitrogen except for liquid koolbloom
 
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harris hawk

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Thre are flushing products you can buy, but, just use de-natured water ( tap water set on for 24 hrs) will work just find
 
rob333

rob333

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Marlo95 said:
So today is my 56th day of flower and I'd usually start flushing today but I'm confused because my plants aren't fully ripe yet. I'm afraid that if I start flushing that they won't get ripe because they don't have any nutrients to help. So should I go another week with nutrients or should I start flushing?
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flush away even if it is not rip yet it will use wat ever is left in the plant u dont wanna go pumping nutes into it and f it up better to play it safe then sorry
 
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