Flush or not

Marlo95 · Mar 25, 2015

So today is my 56th day of flower and I'd usually start flushing today but I'm confused because my plants aren't fully ripe yet. I'm afraid that if I start flushing that they won't get ripe because they don't have any nutrients to help. So should I go another week with nutrients or should I start flushing?

chuck estevez · Mar 25, 2015

only flush when there is a turd

Terry385 · Mar 25, 2015

flushing is for toilets

Mr.Goodtimes · Mar 25, 2015

Go another week imo. No point in starving them of nutes if they are still ripening.

I've flushed for three weeks, and I have flushed for three days. The ones I ran with nutes until the very end were considerably better. When they look ripe I give them clean RO water with a little clearex for a few days, then plain water for the last day, then chop.

I feel the taste and smoke comes more from the dry/cure than the flush... Not entirely convinced it is necessary at all, but I do it anyways lol

unwine · Mar 25, 2015

Don't flush. No need in depriving the plant of what it needs when it needs it the most..... when it's trying to put on more weight/frost/terpene development etc. The only benefit to flushing would be decreasing cure time by a couple days...not a good trade IMO.

panhead · Mar 25, 2015

If you want your plants to mature faster stop all N in the nutes & continue feeding them bloom nutes till you chop , in late flower nitrogen will cause buds to mature slower .

caherbgrower · Mar 25, 2015

There are two very different opinions on the effectiveness of flushing.. anybody ever do a side by side test?

panhead · Mar 25, 2015

caherbgrower said:
There are two very different opinions on the effectiveness of flushing.. anybody ever do a side by side test?

Yup , many times members have done side by side comparisons & posted the results they had , i'd bet there is 20,000 threads here about flushing , it dont help any when botique nutrient manufacturers like Advanced Nutrients write articles full of seudo scientific mumbo jumbo convincing people they need to flush & by chance they just so happen to sell a product that makes rinsing your soil out better :lol:

AlphaPhase · Mar 25, 2015

The only time you flush is when you poop or when the leo raid your house.

caherbgrower · Mar 25, 2015

panhead said:
Yup , many times members have done side by side comparisons & posted the results they had , i'd bet there is 20,000 threads here about flushing , it dont help any when botique nutrient manufacturers like Advanced Nutrients write articles full of seudo scientific mumbo jumbo convincing people they need to flush & by chance they just so happen to sell a product that makes rinsing your soil out better

preach on man! I have too many qualms with the gardening industry and their manipulative marketing. Using a "flushing agent " seems counter productive anyway.

Marlo95 · Mar 26, 2015

caherbgrower said:
There are two very different opinions on the effectiveness of flushing.. anybody ever do a side by side test?

Yea I flush every time. Regardless of what other people say, when I don't flush my end product smells like hay or something else. You don't have to buy a product to flush the last week so there's no scam going on. I flush to get the chemicals out of the plants system so the smoke is more smooth and less harsh. I only use ro water nothing else and there's a huge difference

littlegiant · Mar 26, 2015

unwine said:
Don't flush. No need in depriving the plant of what it needs when it needs it the most..... when it's trying to put on more weight/frost/terpene development etc. The only benefit to flushing would be decreasing cure time by a couple days...not a good trade IMO.

No need? I have snipped and sampled buds before flushing a few times and that shit fucks with your throat big time. I flush for 1 week with plain water w/correct PH and my smoke is always smooth and not harsh :clap:

Why the fuck would someone spend all that time growing something and have it taste like shit. Those roots sit in a bucket of chemicals there whole lives, and that's just what your bud is gonna taste like. :spew:

AlphaPhase · Mar 26, 2015

Are pear, apple, grapes (vineyards that grow 5k bottles of wine), tobacco for the whole planet, corn, any vegetables, any food, anything smoked, eaten, ingested in any form, anything at all, in the whole planet, flushed.. Ever? No? OK, so let's flush pot and say it makes a difference because we all know cchemicals are stored in the Buds forever only to turn our ashes black but that has nothing to do with moisture in the Buds. We all know cannabis is the only plant that needs to be over watered and completely deprived of nutrients during its final stage of life.. growing the Buds that will be used .. And those last two weeks that mean the most to the plants, much of the final weight is put on, we need to stop that. That extra yield of the same exact tasting, smelling and looking bud is our enemy.

chuck estevez · Mar 26, 2015

Marlo95 said:
Yea I flush every time. Regardless of what other people say, when I don't flush my end product smells like hay or something else. You don't have to buy a product to flush the last week so there's no scam going on. I flush to get the chemicals out of the plants system so the smoke is more smooth and less harsh. I only use ro water nothing else and there's a huge difference

then you have 0 clue to how plants work

chuck estevez · Mar 26, 2015

littlegiant said:
No need? I have snipped and sampled buds before flushing a few times and that shit fucks with your throat big time. I flush for 1 week with plain water w/correct PH and my smoke is always smooth and not harsh Why the fuck would someone spend all that time growing something and have it taste like shit. Those roots sit in a bucket of chemicals there whole lives, and that's just what your bud is gonna taste like.

you also need to learn how plants work, why the fuck would you spend all that money and time on nutes to grow a healthy plant, just to starve it at it's most productive time?
I'm sorry your plants sit in a pool of chems, but mine don't, I feed them, they use it, I feed them they use it, and then guess what, I feed them, they use it.

unwine · Mar 26, 2015

littlegiant said:
No need? I have snipped and sampled buds before flushing a few times and that shit fucks with your throat big time. I flush for 1 week with plain water w/correct PH and my smoke is always smooth and not harsh Why the fuck would someone spend all that time growing something and have it taste like shit. Those roots sit in a bucket of chemicals there whole lives, and that's just what your bud is gonna taste like.

Smooth smoke comes from a slow dry and cure, period. Grow a few more years and you'll figure it out.

It takes some longer than others to stop believing in the cannabis myths.

althor · Mar 26, 2015

AlphaPhase said:
Are pear, apple, grapes (vineyards that grow 5k bottles of wine), tobacco for the whole planet, corn, any vegetables, any food, anything smoked, eaten, ingested in any form, anything at all, in the whole planet, flushed.. Ever? No? OK, so let's flush pot and say it makes a difference because we all know cchemicals are stored in the Buds forever only to turn our ashes black but that has nothing to do with moisture in the Buds. We all know cannabis is the only plant that needs to be over watered and completely deprived of nutrients during its final stage of life.. growing the Buds that will be used .. And those last two weeks that mean the most to the plants, much of the final weight is put on, we need to stop that. That extra yield of the same exact tasting, smelling and looking bud is our enemy.

What so many of you seem to not grasp, and this comes from someone whose family have been farmers since they arrived in America 200 years ago, when a crop finishes, the SOIL IS DEPLETED OF NUTRIENTS. That is one of the reason farmers rotate crops. So there is no need to flush soil that is already depleted of nutrients.
Not sure why that is so hard to grasp for non-farmers.

Ever drive past a field of corn near harvest? Notice how all the green has turned yellow and brown right before harvest? That is because it is feeding off itself at that point and farmers are NOT adding nutrients.

There has also been a study that PROVES the higher the nitrogen level in soil at the end of harvest, the lower the THC percentage. It was a very useful study for hemp growers. They purposefully keep nitrogen levels high to keep thc levels in hemp low.

harris hawk · Mar 26, 2015

Marlo95 said:
So today is my 56th day of flower and I'd usually start flushing today but I'm confused because my plants aren't fully ripe yet. I'm afraid that if I start flushing that they won't get ripe because they don't have any nutrients to help. So should I go another week with nutrients or should I start flushing?

Flush for two weeks - what you are doing is letting the plant use all available nutrients + cleaning it !!

althor · Mar 26, 2015

chuck estevez said:
then you have 0 clue to how plants work

You are just figuring this out? Someone who is so quick to bash on everyone and you just now figure out most growers overfeed? That has been known by the rest of the MJ growing community for years.

So instead of assuming everyone is perfect, assume they overfeed and in which case a flush would not hurt at all.

chuck estevez · Mar 26, 2015

althor said:
You are just figuring this out? Someone who is so quick to bash on everyone and you just now figure out most growers overfeed? That has been known by the rest of the MJ growing community for years.

So instead of assuming everyone is perfect, assume they overfeed and in which case a flush would not hurt at all.

yeah, I just figured it out :dunce:

PLEASE, explain how flushing FIXES overfeeding.
then explain HOW a plant over feeds.....this should be good.

AND, i don't assume things, when you Assume, you make an ass out of U and ME.

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