fluorescent fixture
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Seedlessone
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man i was never trying to put you down...seedlessone is st00pid n funni cause stupid is funny. Stupidity isn't a problem in itself, but when you close your mind with an ego to shut your heart, then you are another piece of sick society.... n dat da truf
i was expressin my opinion on growing in your parents home. I think its a damn shame...but you are right i am dumb and nobody should ever take any advise from me. As a matter of fact if you guys think Im an that much of an ass, ill stop posting. just let me know lol
splifman
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how many plants are in that second pic with the HPS? Ohh and how high is the 400 w hps from the plants, in order to light the entire 2 X 3.5 area?
Do you think that two 400 w hps is over kill for a 3 x 4.5 area?
videoman40
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Hey dude, I think that two 400's in that spot would ROCK! Now to get technical for ya, one 400 is fine for roughly a 3x3 space, you have plenty of light and your plants would reward you with big beautiful buds! Dont forget to have some form off exhhaust going too. My grow room is about 4x6 and I have one 430 watt hps, and cant wait to get another one!
Peace
splifman
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Thanks dude. I am working on the exhaust thing. I currently have the door adjar about 3 inches to 6 inches (depending on the out door temp) with a fan blowing fresh air into the room, keeping the temp between 82 - 86. With ghetto co2 (soon to change). I will be setting up a good ventilation system pretty soon though. I want to buy one of those good exhaust fans.
On a side note, I am very happy with results so far, just wasn't sure if the lights were a little too much.
videoman40
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That sounds great, what I did for a fan was go to home depot and buy a $12.00 bathroom fan, I cut a 3' hole in the ceiling and installed it and placed it on my timer with my lights, but theres lots of other solutions too.
Peace
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splifman
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I agree, i did the same thing for my veg area, but I find that those bathroom duct fans from HD don't work that well. Its sufficient for the veg area, but for the heavy heat build up in the flower room, I might need a more efficient fan. It seems the the HD duct fans aren't compeletly 'closed' systems. If you put your hand on both sides of the fan you will feel air blowing on both ends. But the fans that you get at hydro shops etc, seemd to be better made because you can feel air being sucked in one end and blown in the other. It seems that there are more layers of fan blades and they are closer to the edge of the fan. DOn't know if I explained it that well, but in a nut shell they are much more efficient and hence, more expensive ~ $120 - $150
videoman40
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Cool, lesson learned.
In my case, smell is not a problem, only heat. Money however is always a problem lol, so I'd rather get another home depot el'cheapo, but if I had the money...........
PS, you explained it just fine dude.
In my case, smell is not a problem, only heat. Money however is always a problem lol, so I'd rather get another home depot el'cheapo, but if I had the money...........
PS, you explained it just fine dude.
splifman
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I agree, i always try to hit up HD first... lol, hydro shit is always priced so high. heat is the issue for me as well. In your opinion should I vent just the light hoods or the entire room as well? the room is 3x5x9 and I want to use some good co2. but I'm afraid if i just vent the hoods that heat and fresh air circulation might still be a problem.
videoman40
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I think you'll need to do both.
heymo85
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4 oz is a qp..........great pics.
Seedlessone
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sorry typo the yeild ranges from 3oz to a qp. thanks for the correction
Kingdom Sky
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wooooooooohoooooooo another thread turned light war!!!! i love you guys, very amusing
ngtybear
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I use 2 80 CFM computer fans in my flowering box. They are rated for 10K hours and are silent. Currently the temp runs up to 32c towards the end of the lights on cycle. I am about to add a 3rd though as summer is coming, or possibly even an AC unit. Otherwise I will have to hold off through the summer as the heat will be too much or just leave my mother in there with less light...
babygro
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Jeez Ngty, put in an efficient 4 inch inline fan, duct system and carbon scrubber and that will keep your temperatures nicely under control.
How are your plants doing btw, did they pull through?
ngtybear
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Think it will drive that much more air? Hmn.... How about noise?
Thanks for asking about the girls.. I am still a little pissed (that's American for upset, not drunk (FOR UK AND NON REBLIOUS COLONIES ONLY).
Two of them are doing much better (the first two with which I replaced all the soil). One still looks like it got caught in the blender and the 4th I am pretty sure is toast. Plenty of room in the box now though, so I am letting her do her thing. I have 5 clones from before all went south, so I am ready for a smarter round two.
I am going to do a thread in another week or so about how to screw up a great grow in 3 easy steps.
Thanks for asking about the girls.. I am still a little pissed (that's American for upset, not drunk (FOR UK AND NON REBLIOUS COLONIES ONLY).
Two of them are doing much better (the first two with which I replaced all the soil). One still looks like it got caught in the blender and the 4th I am pretty sure is toast. Plenty of room in the box now though, so I am letting her do her thing. I have 5 clones from before all went south, so I am ready for a smarter round two.
I am going to do a thread in another week or so about how to screw up a great grow in 3 easy steps.
babygro
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Can't beat an efficient vent system dude - it's the shit! Noise? Depends how deep ya pockets are, you can get some seriously cool (sorry no pun intendedThink it will drive that much more air? Hmn.... How about noise?
Thanks for asking about the girls.. I am still a little pissed (that's American for upset, not drunk (FOR UK AND NON REBLIOUS COLONIES ONLY).
Two of them are doing much better (the first two with which I replaced all the soil). One still looks like it got caught in the blender and the 4th I am pretty sure is toast. Plenty of room in the box now though, so I am letting her do her thing. I have 5 clones from before all went south, so I am ready for a smarter round two.
I am going to do a thread in another week or so about how to screw up a great grow in 3 easy steps.
) acoustic fans from Airforce that are virtually silent, put on some acoustic ducting and a silencer and the noise goes down again, add in an Airforce speed controller and, well if the neighbours knew what you were up to, they'd be jealous! Gonna cost you though, that kind of gear isn't cheap.Glad to hear some of the plants pulled through, jeez they're fucking weeds and you still managed to kill some of them!
Murderer!
ngtybear
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...so then I got so paranoid about overwatering I almost cooked my clones. I need to smoke more and fuck with the plants less. They will do far better without my help.
Honestly, I believe using MG had a lot to do with the lack of moisture control. I found a local source for Fox Farm. I will be getting some Ocean Forest (thanks seedlessone) this evening. That will be the new medium for the clones in a day or two (once I see roots on rest of them).
70% Ocean Forest to 30% Perlite or 50/50???
Honestly, I believe using MG had a lot to do with the lack of moisture control. I found a local source for Fox Farm. I will be getting some Ocean Forest (thanks seedlessone) this evening. That will be the new medium for the clones in a day or two (once I see roots on rest of them).
70% Ocean Forest to 30% Perlite or 50/50???
babygro
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It's quite true that plants do pretty well on their own and we can be more of a hindrance than a benefit sometimes.
I honestly don't know much about soils over in the US, so that's an area I really don't feel qualified to comment on. For clones and seedlings, you really ought to be using a 'milder' soil specially formulated for seedlings and then pot up into richer nutrient filled ones. If you're using the 'milder' seedling soils, 20-30% perlite is fine, if you're using one of the more nutrient rich soils, then increase it to 50/50 perlite soil.
Personally, I beleive in high quality organic soil, with only minimal perlite/vermiculite to assist in drainage and water/nutrient retention. good quality modern soils shouldn't need the additional drainage qualities of perlite and as long as the wet/dry cycle is properly adhered to, good drainage and soil aeration should not be a problem.
Here's a tip for you. Use a watering can with a rose attachment to water with, the small sprinkling of the water from the rose helps to aerate the soil and fully penetrate it.