Flower fuel ? Bud candy ? Terpinator?

visajoe1 said:

I use Flower Fuel to bump up my PK in flower. I run Maxigro 10-5-14, so I need some extra P in flower. Works great for me, doesnt take much. Seems to encourage denser nugs

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How much maxigrow do you use when you add flower fuel or vice versa?

From the comments, I can see alot of bashing from organic growers

HAPPYHORT said:

How much maxigrow do you use when you add flower fuel or vice versa?

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Been a while, but something around 1.2ec maxigro and 1/4 tsp of flower fuel. I switched over to maxibloom for flower

HAPPYHORT said:

From the comments, I can see alot of bashing from organic growers

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If you're not eating it as a daily source of protein and carbohydrates, and since smoking 2 or more plants worth of lung damaging carcinogens and mind-bending hallucigens every year is not what you would consider being a "healthy-minded individual", then "organics" has nothing to do with it!

It all comes down to performance and maximizing yield, so if using organic fertilizers has significant benefits, which it does, (i.e. healthier plants, better disease resistance, higher drought tolerance, supplying micro nutrients, providing a bio-friendly growth environment for beneficial microbes and Mycorrhizal Fungi, etc.) then organics do play a major role in having a successful grow.

I use a combination of both.

Note: a lot of these synthetic enhancers are a huge money grab, and provide only marginal to somewhat good results. I do see a benefit with fast-growing and therefore nutrient-starved auto's (or when using hydroponics or growing in intense tents).

I grow all my plants outdoors, so i only use synth's judiciously on my photos, and then slightly less-than-recommended doses for my auto's, to ensure that i don't chemically burn them.

Flower fuel - nope. Too many unknown ingredients and you don't need a pk booster.
Bud Candy - worth using in concept. Sugar or molasses are cheaper substitutes.
Terpinator - nope. Using chitosan is a better way to increase terps. Also found in Bud Factor X which is too expensive.

PeatPhreak said:

Bud Candy - worth using in concept. Sugar or molasses are cheaper substitutes.

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i like mixing-in half a cap of a multivitamin B complex, and some vitamin C with the molasses

B will do something for growth. C is a chelator that will help prevent salt build up. That is about all it does tho.

PeatPhreak said:

Using chitosan is a better way to increase terps. Also found in Bud Factor X which is too expensive.

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like your comment for Bud Candy "worth using in concept", i did not find any legitimate studies (other than the one below) that verified that chitosan (or anything else, for that matter) increases termpene production. Just more Marketing BS and likely another money grab.

Note: I too am constantly on the look-out for new enhancing products the comes out, and addicted to reading their proclamations of how fantastically their product will improve my plants' performance. I soooo want to believe (https://www.rollitup.org/t/flower-fuel-bud-candy-terpinator.1042099/page-2#post-16533814) lmao!

Can terpene production be artificially induced?

The major question is: can we force plants to produce higher levels of terpenes? So far, our research hasn’t proven we can do this. Future Harvest teamed up with a phytochemist, a scientist specializing in plant chemistry, to try to figure this out. We took apart products claiming to increase terpene production using a nuclear magnetic resonance spectrometer (NMR) and did not find anything in their formulas that would majorly impact terpene production. Through our own research, we performed trials using the chemicals plants create while under stress, chitosan, salicylic acid, and jasmonic acid; however, despite minor variations between some of them and the controls the differences were trivial. The levels of terpenes produced was not majorly impacted through our intervention.

Source: https://futureharvest.com/blogs/articles/more-terpenes

Plenty of evidence chitosan is useful

HAPPYHORT said:

From the comments, I can see alot of bashing from organic growers

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Welcome to RIU!

PeatPhreak said:

Plenty of evidence chitosan is useful

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thnx; will give the references a read.

SnoopyDoo said:

If you don't want to pay the nutrient companies for their nutes, you can scour the web and find alternatives. Or maybe you would prefer to do other things with your time and grabbing bottles off the shelf works better for you.

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I cannot help but agree with all that you've said. It pretty much mirrors my gardening philosophy.

If you're not totally fascinated with the explosion of science and information on growing your own - and then wanna learn and try-out all this shit, then you're missing out on half the fun and joy.

From my experience a pk booster helped me in DWC. Here are two pictures of the same plant. Both are clones from the same mother grown indoors at different times but one has added pk. Both about same flowering age.