inhaleindica
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Alot of people ask me the same thing said:
FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )
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flowamasta
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understandable, but trust me when you find out a new way to grow easy potent erb, then you will obviously want more of it right? best to have more than enough room, than not enough... Where we are, 1 plant is considered personal smoke, so we try to get as much as we can in the time given. Don't want to run out and end up smoking someone else's average stuff.
Having a smaller container won't simply reduce your veg time, pot size is not an indicator for grow time... What it will do is restrict the amount of nutrients and water your plant can absorb.
Quality comes from maintaining a healthy plant from start to finish, with mild stress. From what i've seen from you before! You got no problem producing quality!!
Looks to me like you just need some growing space 
and a big pot 
Think of it like this if you like, even if i was vegging for 1 week, i would still use the 50 litre tub. Why? because it works
After 8 weeks of flowering i'm almost posistive the roots will more than shock you at what they are capable of in this current setup I continue to shock myself each and EVERY time
thanx for the input man!
Dr.Amber Trichome
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FLowa flowa flowwwwwwwaaaaaaaaa master of deezasta.. howz it going ? when you gonna throw up your dry weight mate. im shooting for hempy style next round. my balls are so smelly , crusty and dirty I wanna go white..
puff puff pass it this way
is the pizza in Australia really good? I like NY and NJ(good ole USA)pizza the best! big triangle slice, big fat air bubbles, fold it in half and watch the grease drip down onto the paper plate. Oh Oh O its sooo yummy. I like sugary sweet tomato sauce. Just like I like my buds. lol.heee hee. like you! and all my delicious herb.
I got the day off with pay! hooray! 
puff puff pass it this way
is the pizza in Australia really good? I like NY and NJ(good ole USA)pizza the best! big triangle slice, big fat air bubbles, fold it in half and watch the grease drip down onto the paper plate. Oh Oh O its sooo yummy. I like sugary sweet tomato sauce. Just like I like my buds. lol.heee hee. like you! and all my delicious herb.
I got the day off with pay! hooray!
flowamasta
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LOLFLowa flowa flowwwwwwwaaaaaaaaa master of deezasta.. howz it going ? when you gonna throw up your dry weight mate. im shooting for hempy style next round. my balls are so smelly , crusty and dirty I wanna go white..
puff puff pass it this way
is the pizza in Australia really good? I like NY and NJ(good ole USA)pizza the best! big triangle slice, big fat air bubbles, fold it in half and watch the grease drip down onto the paper plate. Oh Oh O its sooo yummy. I like sugary sweet tomato sauce. Just like I like my buds. lol.heee hee. like you! and all my delicious herb.
I'm going great Dr! Keen on that dry weight hehe! very cold weather here, humidity is right around 60% so really hard to dry anything including clothes!! But its getting there!, the back half of the house is around 20 degrees... very chili. I dont even know know how many days its been, but i know for sure its well up there above the lb mark. I've started trimming now, and i tell you now, its like technical surgery! every leaf you snip sticks to the damn scissors, and bungs everything up, so i'm having to scrape the scissors every couple of buds! but wow, they emit such a strong sweet aroma one i peel those leaves away just amazing. the resin is sparkling like a galaxy of stars, slowly maturing and changing in ways i wouldn't understand! truly sticky stuff. The best i've grown hands down. 1 bong material, a strong bite indeed, and a super smooth tasty candy like hit every time!! ( I have tried the smallest of nugz that have dried ahead of the game always have to snip an early sample here and there, to settle the suspense... u know...)couple of days and i'll have some good numbers and pics
damiana
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Hey Flowa,
My drying technique is quite simple really, i leave the large colas to hang/rest for 3-4 days until they start to wilt, and the leaves give that wrap over effect, it's not until then in my opinion that the humidity can drop below a certain point, if i were to chop them down straight away, it would shorten the drying time too much, and i may be left with bright green buds heavy with chloraphyl, which takes a minimum of 8-10 days to evaporate. The smaller buds get snipped off and put into light small piles with all leaf still remaining except for the fan/shade leaves. keeping them fairly close at all times to keep the moisture/humidity consistent. You don't want them to sweat, so give them a little space and no heavy buds on little ones ofcourse. after the 3-4 days, time to turn things over, move the centre buds to outside, and the outside layer into the centre... By now the large colas are to be snipped down and added to the smaller piles to help retain moisture, and consistency. another 4-6 days things should start to feel dry enough to handle and be placed into curing jars or tupperware, where my curing will take place every day replacing the air each day, and for the first week of curing leaving the containers open during the night hours, and closed during the day, and always kept 100% dark (very important!!! THC IS LIGHT/WIND/HEAT SENSITIVE) leaving the leaves on until completely try will help protect the trichomes from premature degradation, and maybe even increase the taste of your product
Cloning/Regenerating.
You are semi-correct with the clone technique, It takes me roughly 3 weeks for the clone to get roots, and keeping her under only a 11 watt fluorescent tube will only JUST give her enough energy to survive, she will be far from being a plant or in 'grow phase' as some may call it. I restrict the roots by air pruning around the base of the container with the Rockwool, If you were to analyze these clones, they would sure enough be in 'regeneration' mode where they will only be trying to grow new nodes, and with the little amount of light given only the tiniest amount of nutrients will be necessary. Over the next 3-4 weeks she only grows maybe 8-12 inches high. Still not yet a 'plant' as such as if you were to place her in a high HPS environment, or outside, she would die a horrible death almost indefinitely. BUT she needs 'hardening' off first. This changes the cell reproduction, and how i do this is placing her in my tent and at the very bottom of the tent using only 1 HPS 600 and for maybe 4-6 hours i will blast her with some hard light, then continue the rest of the hours with the flouro. keeping 24hour light all the time. She will only become a plant, once the hardening off phase is completed and the night cycle begins, where Dark hours are introduced into the plant. Dark times are what cause the plant to 'grow' its not really 'the light' as such..... When there is darkness the plant knows to produce enzymes, and these are not produced by 'clones'. Clones do not need darkness, the process can be kept alive even in a fridge for weeks without ever growing....
So a clone by definition she most certainly isBUT i do this for a singular purpose, its my guarantee of growing again the next round, and having a ready clone to take off right after inspection is completed, then my 30 days growing begins with 18hrs light, 6hrs dark. (remembering hydroponics is about simulating/synthesizing it would be unnatural for any plant to receive 24hr sunlight, but we can use it to our advantage)
Seeing what darkness can do to a plant tells you all you need to knowdarkness makes stems stretch for lightso we are only going to get branches when she wants to grow
I hope that helps explain a little better about my technique, not to get the wrong idea, or thing i may be cheating some secret grow timeI haven't always done this, it was a self learning experience, and worked to my benefit, There are still many more grows to my name with many started from a fresh new baby clone (rooted) and still harvest well over a lb, just for reference, feel free to check them out
I actually found that it doesn't really gain any more yield from this concept i have, but it saves me time. Time is valuable in hydroponics!! especially when the landlord want to do his 'visit' for the record, i've ALWAYS finished each and every grow, but i have been VERY close where i've had to dry elsewherelol
Thanks for the friendly and timely response. Having the Cloning info is really helpful, but most especially having the your drying and curing info is great!
I have ALWAYS wanted to grow cannabis (since I was very young; I started smoking in 8th grade
). Now that I moved to california I can do it legally, thank you cali. Having my first ever harvest just around the corner I am SUPER excited. Its day one of week 10 today! But I accidentally left my lights on for 24 hours three days ago and I am pissed off about it. Hopefully that didn't do anything. The plants are on a 16 off 8 on light schedule now to ripen the flowers and have been getting only water for a few days. They got only cannaboost and cannazym for week 9. I also have two 26W UVB lamps. I'm going to have only those two lights on for 12 hours the last day prior to harvest I was thinking. And harvest after 36 hours lights off.
I'm not sure how long I should water them with water tho? I think 4 days is good? I can upload pictures for people if anyone wants to look at the nicely formed colas I got using only coco coir and the CANNA nutrient lineup. I could even get a 60x shot of the trichomes. I've been smoking this Durban landrace sativa whose genetics are from africa, its AMAZINGLY sweet and light, its keeping me patient while my buds ripen.
Anyway, that coco grow was my last, I have two SKUNK strains in VEG now using the "FLOWA system" you taught us all, with the full lineup of CYCO NUTs and they look GREAT! Got like 30 plus tops. Can't wait to put that in the FLOWER tent!!! REally i can't wait, I'm having a hard time not doing it right now!
Thanks FLOWA. Its a good problem to have!
DAMIANA
daveroller
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Hey Flowa, I'm just reading this for the first time to try and learn your system... so I have a very basic newbie question:
Do you need 2 pumps in your res, one for pumping out and one for pumping back in? (Or do you just have the pot up higher than the res and let it drain back down?)
It looks like a hempy bucket that has an automatic watering system and a separate res. Are you able to leave that system just do its thing by itself for a few days, without any intervention on your part?
Do you need 2 pumps in your res, one for pumping out and one for pumping back in? (Or do you just have the pot up higher than the res and let it drain back down?)
It looks like a hempy bucket that has an automatic watering system and a separate res. Are you able to leave that system just do its thing by itself for a few days, without any intervention on your part?
flowamasta
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Hey man!, good question, and easily answered
You are correct, she gravity returns. The feed line is ran by the pump every 3-4 hours for 15 minute sessions. You can leave this system to be no worries, as long as you have plenty of water. You can always back up the res with another gravity return by interconnecting the 2 reservoirs, they will balance according to water level as you only need top top up 1. I go a maximum 3 days, ever without looking and checking things, but usually EVERY day, just incase of equipment failure or something. Perlite won't stay wet for long, and once it begins to dry out the salt inevitibly turns up, so keeping the system 'moist' not 'drenched' at all times is a bonus
daveroller
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Thanks man! Good to hear from you. I hope the weather's nice in Australia this time of year.
I want to try this because with hydro I can't leave it alone even for a day. I'd like to leave the house for a weekend sometime while I'm growing.
One complication is that there isn't much height in my grow cabinet, so putting the bucket up on a table probably isn't feasible. I'll have to figure some way to get the runoff back to the res or maybe just let it drain off into a pan for a couple days. Too early in the day to think about it right now!
Take it easy, Flowa!
I want to try this because with hydro I can't leave it alone even for a day. I'd like to leave the house for a weekend sometime while I'm growing.
One complication is that there isn't much height in my grow cabinet, so putting the bucket up on a table probably isn't feasible. I'll have to figure some way to get the runoff back to the res or maybe just let it drain off into a pan for a couple days. Too early in the day to think about it right now!
Take it easy, Flowa!
flowamasta
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The weather is cold, and miserable, but I'm doing great! and loooooving my ganja!, and loving life!
You only need to raise you pot above the reservoirs water level, gravity will do the rest, find a shallow wide res, and you can get away with having it lower to the ground if you wish.
Its all finally dry/trimmed/curing still!! But my final weight is in! a little more than i thought originally, but still less than a few had guessed
Total weight! (780 GRAMS give/take an ounce or so, I've been smoking and 'out of it' hehe)My final results have made me very proud! the quality being my best had put my mind at ease, and i found very little buds that had been seeded, less than 1 ounce in total actually! The most tasty/ripe potent Ganja i think i've ever smoked!! sweet like candy, with a flavour that literally wets your lips, a strong sensation of a hash like effect immediately after inhaling, and if you can manage to force to bongs down, you can sleep like a baby any time of the day!I wasn't exactly expecting 2lb or anything like that, i was expecting more than a lb easily, but this gives me the jitters!enough bragging a few pics to excite your senses.
The most tasty/ripe potent Ganja i think i've ever smoked!! sweet like candy, with a flavour that literally wets your lips, a strong sensation of a hash like effect immediately after inhaling, and if you can manage to force to bongs down, you can sleep like a baby any time of the day!I wasn't exactly expecting 2lb or anything like that, i was expecting more than a lb easily, but this gives me the jitters!enough bragging a few pics to excite your senses.new brother and sis together
sticky block of goodness!! ( in the curing process )
All together at last!!
A work in progress below!
daveroller
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That is frickin AWESOME, Flowa! I guess I jumped in just in time. How many plants was that massive amount from? 2? 3? I know you've always had monster yields.
Sounds like a super breed, too. I love Skunk cross breeds and have read that Jack H. is phenomenal, so I imagine the cross between them must be really special.
Congratulations Flowamasta!
Sounds like a super breed, too. I love Skunk cross breeds and have read that Jack H. is phenomenal, so I imagine the cross between them must be really special.
Congratulations Flowamasta!
flowamasta
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Thanx
Thanx Mo! and WOW! Now that 4m ceiling is coming to light!Buds and chicks! Best combo ever
My greenhouse has its second beam up!
Cheers,
Mo
i'm sure you will have no problem reaching that, as i'm just as sure part of the reason for you being on this planet is growing erb!!! You show it EXACTLY how it should be! relaxed and in excess Thanx for being here Mo! i wish you were close to enjoy a few bowls of Amsterdam Gold
right up your 'psychedelic' way Thanx Dave
i'm not positive this strain is crossed with skunk, the original name to this thread started with my 2nd strain, The Amsterdam Gold was the last round, but i think you're right about the skunk anyway, as this time she stinks to high heavens. Oh, and always just ever 1 plant matey 4 weeks vegging, 7-8 weeks flowering. I just planted a new strain called Gnine or ( glasshouse 9 ) and only JUST rooted, to show that 10 weeks vegging is clearly not my trick to massive yields but already looking a sweet strain!
Chipper Pig
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What a lovely pile of bud and some exceptional numbers to go with it
Awesome job Flowa!!! Cant wait to get glimse of Gnine!
Awesome job Flowa!!! Cant wait to get glimse of Gnine!
flowamasta
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Thanx alot Chipper! REALLY enjoying the rewards nowWhat a lovely pile of bud and some exceptional numbers to go with it
each day these new strange fruity aromas woft down the hallway when i crack the lid to the tupperware! awesome stuff, the 2 of the babies i cut off and kept are outside the biggest nearly a foot tall, should produce some awesome potent purple Amsterdam Gold The frost on the small one is incredible and she only is in her 2nd week flowering as she started as soon as she went outside I would Looooooooooove to re-veg her and grow a monster but the smell would be far too much to put up with