FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )

eastcoastmo

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I top up with only fresh water after it gets down to about 1/3rd it really helps with keeping a clean system, during flowering i may top up with fresh water + carbs ( suga rush or pineapple rush ) something with a mild potash enhancement and natural sugars. Saying this, it's not a 'mild' system, by now i can run full strength base (grow a+b) as long as i don't over do the additives, B1 boost, silica and Dr. Repair. I watch for leaf vigor and stance for the amount of Dr. Repair i only want to see her 'perky' with raised leaves around once a week coming towards the end, this tells me how much food she's having, and how much is being wasted. Over-all i keep her metabolism very high after flush and then make her hungry towards the end of the week by diluting with fresh water. It's like she's always waiting for her maximum feed so it pushes her to her limit she will take up as much food and water as she can but hopefully never too much :)


The first time i used it i was shocked. The comparison is Ferrari vs Ford.

I would look carefully at the additives you're using however most liquid fertz can mix with XL (phos acid) organics is a no no it just kills everything you're trying to thrive.
Cyco in my opinion is definitely up there with the best, quality is really good and very consistent. Variables are basically up to me if i want to change the food regime. Alot isn't needed as first noted first page :)



I would stick with clean quality liquid ofcourse, i hear good things with advanced nutrients, ignore the bad hype its bogus... Some of cyco boys came from advanced a little birdie told me.... general hydro, good stuff, sensi nutes good stuff. Whatever Lordjin uses~!! can't remember but its obviously the bomb, you don't get quality bud without using quality nutes so don't go mixing up a box of 'thrive flower and fruit' unless you have $10 left for nutrients lol it will work but salt and deficiencies will be happening guaranteed especially if you mix high strength.

Most people go wrong by thinking the plant 'needs more' but adding more can sometimes lockout important and essential elements because the ph simply buffers them rendering them useless which then they turn to SALT. Salt then binds with other elements unless you flush and will pick up important traces like iron, calcium thus ending up with a deficiency or lockout. Then you can run into problems like the tips burning or simply no growth because the pores on the leaves block up and refuse to transpire and evaporate moisture. and in a high ph res with blocked leaf pores the leaves can only transpire through the very tip of the leaves and there is little surface area because of the shape of weed leaves so they burn very easily. But a GREAT tell-tale sign for over-nuting or environmental issues :)

Little bit of basic chemistry but all part of simple horticulture


The idea of my system is to keep nothing sitting still in the system for more than half an hour, even after feeding the perlite will; continue to drip for another 15-30 minutes continuously mixing in the res, and every 2 hours i'm feeding now, with perlite it's near impossible to over water in the later stages as long as you use an airstone to oxygenate the water.
Sweet bro, another very well informed answer hey and i totally understand, ive just finished studying chemistry and environmental chem for my uni degree and this all makes perfect sense ;)
cheers for the full detailed reply man, it helps is all so much :)
 

flowamasta

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Sweet bro, another very well informed answer hey and i totally understand, ive just finished studying chemistry and environmental chem for my uni degree and this all makes perfect sense ;)
cheers for the full detailed reply man, it helps is all so much :)
Haven't got alot on my plate lately although getting more busy soon and summer weather is almost here :) so why not share my passion fro growin Ganja!!

Here's my outdoor been outside for 22 days now and i swear she's starting to re-veg. she has stopped dead still not producing any more white hairs and some are turning pink and purple!! don't ask me!? cold morning perhaps but i've never seen pink pistils before, and i swear its no photo trickery.

Following my Jack x Skunk, she's also at day 22 vegging, i didn't get around to cloning, i thought i'd let her go another few inches. I got time.



 

Scrogreen

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Those Pink hairs are crazy! Must be the plants way of killing the off or something.


So I was re reading through this and your other grows to try and help me with how I want to do my set up. One question I had for you was in that picture that your holding your top bucket and the roots are thick into the bottom bucket, if the roots in the perlite grew out to the outsides of the first pot? Not sure if that question makes sence but I will explain why Im asking it and see what your thought and anyone else's thoughts are.

I first love the idea of growing in the perlite! I talked to a guy who does good work and he has 90% perlite to 10%coco mix. I have been wanting to do like a air pot/hempy type grow. My thoughts are using a 5gal Rootbuilder pot with a tub under the bottom like how you have your return except it will only cover the bottom 2in's (or around 5cm for you guys) of the air pot. I really think air pruning can help in a small space. I will also be veg'n the plant for about a month so Im not sure if that will be enough root space.

Your set up is awesome! I am just one of those guys that likes to put my own spin on everything I do. I dont think I will get much better results then you but I like it cause it makes me think more and try new stuff.

Your indoor looks like a beast! That reminds me. When you were explaining how your XL works it reminded me of a read I read a few weeks ago about "making it rain". Talked about how you put lower PH water in and let the plant and nutes bring it back up because the plant takes in differents nutes at different PH's. Makes perfect sence as to why your plant took off like you said it would!

Your the MAN flowa!
 

Mohican

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Hey FlowaMasta

I am not worried a bit! Your nugs are the biggest - OK that did not sound right hehe

I think I like the mainlining idea because it removes the guess work of which branches to remove. I am still not as talented as you at picking good pruning locations by eye. That is probably why the mainlining seems more suited for me at this point (grow #2).

I also want to try a hybrid plant with big buds and fast growth. It will be interesting to see what my LED light can do with a fast growing plant. The Malawi did not do well under the LED but the Malawi outside is pretty loose also. Of course I am going to use perlite and cyco for this grow so I can try to get Masta buds :)

I will be bugging you more once I get up and running so I will apologize now in advance.

Cheers,
Mo
 

eastcoastmo

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I'd say you're right Flowa, looks like she is revegging, just took her a bit to work out the photoperiod outside. She'll be a nice solid plant by the end hey :)

I know i'm truly grateful for the passion you have because it has inspired me to have the same. Its really only been the last 12 months where my passion has come back!
 

BigBuddahCheese

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Nice grow... few things heads on those nugs look they could have used a few more weeks.. and the scale shots subtract maybe 25-20% for excessive stems.
 

Scrogreen

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Hey FlowaMasta

I am not worried a bit! Your nugs are the biggest - OK that did not sound right hehe

I think I like the mainlining idea because it removes the guess work of which branches to remove. I am still not as talented as you at picking good pruning locations by eye. That is probably why the mainlining seems more suited for me at this point (grow #2).

I also want to try a hybrid plant with big buds and fast growth. It will be interesting to see what my LED light can do with a fast growing plant. The Malawi did not do well under the LED but the Malawi outside is pretty loose also. Of course I am going to use perlite and cyco for this grow so I can try to get Masta buds :)

I will be bugging you more once I get up and running so I will apologize now in advance.

Cheers,
Mo
Hey Mo! What LED did ya get? Also if you dont mind me asking what is your coco to perlite mix? Both you and Flowa gots the goods! Peace brotha.
 

Scrogreen

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I'd say you're right Flowa, looks like she is revegging, just took her a bit to work out the photoperiod outside. She'll be a nice solid plant by the end hey :)

I know i'm truly grateful for the passion you have because it has inspired me to have the same. Its really only been the last 12 months where my passion has come back!
I know flowa has inspired many! Really nice to hear when people get there passion back, I mean isnt that what is all about?! Im on the same boat as you eastco. We are lucky to have a guy like flow to share with us. Im looking forward to reading all your stuff to easty. Im sure your uni degree will give you some good insight on how plant work! I have been thinking about going back to school just dont have the time or money (you know the same lame excuses everyone else has). lol Good luck bro! I will be here in Professor's Flowa's class! hahaha
 

eastcoastmo

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I know flowa has inspired many! Really nice to hear when people get there passion back, I mean isnt that what is all about?! Im on the same boat as you eastco. We are lucky to have a guy like flow to share with us. Im looking forward to reading all your stuff to easty. Im sure your uni degree will give you some good insight on how plant work! I have been thinking about going back to school just dont have the time or money (you know the same lame excuses everyone else has). lol Good luck bro! I will be here in Professor's Flowa's class! hahaha

Totally agree mate, well it SHOUL be what its all about, unfortunately for a lot of growers all they can see is the money. I only grow for my own enjoyment and to help out a mate who is sick and needs weed to sleep and get rid of pain. This pushes me to get the best meds possible for him, i hate seeing him in pain and he's been paying a lot for crap smoke. We always go halves in all costs but i usually give him 3/4 of the buds because he needs it. I was absolutely gutted that mine hermies on me this time, i just want to give him the best smoke possible! Next time will be a LOT better!

Dude i cant tell you how much my degree is helping hey, even though its marine biology it stil helps heaps. It hasnt been easy but has been so worthwhile :) if you get the chance bro, do what makes you happy!! Growing is one thing that i get SO much enjoyment from and i think thats why i get so excited to see Flowa's updates lol!

Next grow i will journal so we can see the same system with different strains :)
 

Scrogreen

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Totally agree mate, well it SHOUL be what its all about, unfortunately for a lot of growers all they can see is the money. I only grow for my own enjoyment and to help out a mate who is sick and needs weed to sleep and get rid of pain. This pushes me to get the best meds possible for him, i hate seeing him in pain and he's been paying a lot for crap smoke. We always go halves in all costs but i usually give him 3/4 of the buds because he needs it. I was absolutely gutted that mine hermies on me this time, i just want to give him the best smoke possible! Next time will be a LOT better!

Dude i cant tell you how much my degree is helping hey, even though its marine biology it stil helps heaps. It hasnt been easy but has been so worthwhile :) if you get the chance bro, do what makes you happy!! Growing is one thing that i get SO much enjoyment from and i think thats why i get so excited to see Flowa's updates lol!

Next grow i will journal so we can see the same system with different strains :)
We are on the same page. I would love to make a living doing what I have a passion for. The best saying I have ever heard is "never give up on something you think about everyday". There is 2 things I think about everyday (besides the wife, I will get beat if I dont say I think of her everyday haha) and thats fighting (MMA) and growing. I am at a stand still with my fighting career so I will be focusing on growing. Just to see how much the plant grows over night amazes me evertime! Then on top of that you know that plant will be helping people who need it. I too have a few friends who suffer all day long unless they smoke a little. The politics behind this plant is just blows my mind. Cant wait to see your grow easty! Hope it comes out great for you and your friend.
 

eastcoastmo

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We are on the same page. I would love to make a living doing what I have a passion for. The best saying I have ever heard is "never give up on something you think about everyday". There is 2 things I think about everyday (besides the wife, I will get beat if I dont say I think of her everyday haha) and thats fighting (MMA) and growing. I am at a stand still with my fighting career so I will be focusing on growing. Just to see how much the plant grows over night amazes me evertime! Then on top of that you know that plant will be helping people who need it. I too have a few friends who suffer all day long unless they smoke a little. The politics behind this plant is just blows my mind. Cant wait to see your grow easty! Hope it comes out great for you and your friend.
Yeah nice bro :) always have to mention the missus hey :lol:

Hopefully with passionate people like us in this thread, one day we will hopefully get to grow without having to look over our shoulders! Would be nice hey!
Anyway sorry for the hijack Flowa! As you were lol
 

Downinit

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hmmmm ;) what kind of lighting are you hammering the plants with? More light can = more needed water and in most cases is the biggest factor from what i've seen. I wouldn't worry so much :) if you have some pics, throw up a couple may give me a better idea...

Oh and the medium you are using again? sorry if i forgot, medium plays a huge factor also.... really so many variables :) as to why i stick with a fairly similar medium structure each grow only differing in the amount of hydroton vs perlite i use, both work fairly similar but Hydroton holds more water, so you want that at the bottom where the tracer roots will end up, you don't want a clogged rootball. A Quality rootball will grow a quality plant, and perlite has no give whatsoever so it just pushes the rockwool apart and splits it open and eventually just explodes into a massive trunk :) Think of it as Lube for your plane hehe (perlite) and in life friction is rarely a good thing....

I'm using hydroton.. guess I could use bag inside net pot and use perlite??
 

Scrogreen

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Yeah nice bro :) always have to mention the missus hey :lol:

Hopefully with passionate people like us in this thread, one day we will hopefully get to grow without having to look over our shoulders! Would be nice hey!
Anyway sorry for the hijack Flowa! As you were lol

Yes yes, carry on carry on! :weed:
 

flowamasta

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WOOOOAH!!!! CRAAAAAAAZY!!! LOL


Those Pink hairs are crazy! Must be the plants way of killing the off or something.


So I was re reading through this and your other grows to try and help me with how I want to do my set up. One question I had for you was in that picture that your holding your top bucket and the roots are thick into the bottom bucket, if the roots in the perlite grew out to the outsides of the first pot? Not sure if that question makes sence but I will explain why Im asking it and see what your thought and anyone else's thoughts are.

I first love the idea of growing in the perlite! I talked to a guy who does good work and he has 90% perlite to 10%coco mix. I have been wanting to do like a air pot/hempy type grow. My thoughts are using a 5gal Rootbuilder pot with a tub under the bottom like how you have your return except it will only cover the bottom 2in's (or around 5cm for you guys) of the air pot. I really think air pruning can help in a small space. I will also be veg'n the plant for about a month so Im not sure if that will be enough root space.

Your set up is awesome! I am just one of those guys that likes to put my own spin on everything I do. I dont think I will get much better results then you but I like it cause it makes me think more and try new stuff.

Your indoor looks like a beast! That reminds me. When you were explaining how your XL works it reminded me of a read I read a few weeks ago about "making it rain". Talked about how you put lower PH water in and let the plant and nutes bring it back up because the plant takes in differents nutes at different PH's. Makes perfect sence as to why your plant took off like you said it would!

Your the MAN flowa!
Hey man!! i'm sorry i tried to make sense but i'm jack smashed bigtime and can barely see :eyesmoke: also blown away by the replies lol I see coco in the mix, i hate the stuff personally but thats me :p
Glad you're hear man, sorry if im off the mark but i'm so stoned right now its not funny

Hey FlowaMasta

I am not worried a bit! Your nugs are the biggest - OK that did not sound right hehe

I think I like the mainlining idea because it removes the guess work of which branches to remove. I am still not as talented as you at picking good pruning locations by eye. That is probably why the mainlining seems more suited for me at this point (grow #2).

I also want to try a hybrid plant with big buds and fast growth. It will be interesting to see what my LED light can do with a fast growing plant. The Malawi did not do well under the LED but the Malawi outside is pretty loose also. Of course I am going to use perlite and cyco for this grow so I can try to get Masta buds :)

I will be bugging you more once I get up and running so I will apologize now in advance.

Cheers,
Mo
Always welcome Mo!! With the LED, i'm not so sure they will give you the fast growth you're after :( They seemed to lack in output, as the outdoors shined with delight in the hot sun :) If you want Flatout growth i really recommend a 400watt or 600 HPS minimum even a 250 watt would be an improvement i'm thinking....

Always willing to give my 2 cents :)

I'd say you're right Flowa, looks like she is revegging, just took her a bit to work out the photoperiod outside. She'll be a nice solid plant by the end hey :)

I know i'm truly grateful for the passion you have because it has inspired me to have the same. Its really only been the last 12 months where my passion has come back!
THAT is awesome to hear man!! I feel Humble and massively appreciative!!! :) :)

Nice grow... few things heads on those nugs look they could have used a few more weeks.. and the scale shots subtract maybe 25-20% for excessive stems.
EEEEEEERRRRGGGGHHHHHHH???????? ummmm Thanx?????

MAYBE A LITTLE CONFUCIOUS PERHAPS ??? A FEW MORE WWWWWWWEEKS DID YOU SAY!!?? have a proper read.... I went plenty long enough..... maybe even a few days over-ripe. I go for maximum THC, i'm not going for total amber out resin to the point of seeding mate. Maybe a little research is needed for you before you crap in my thread like that.

And try subtracting maybe 5-8% in weight with those stems. Stems are hollow and VERY light. You do realize that is a pound an a half right???!!!

Excessive stems..... have you ever chucked a massive stem on a scale mate?? go on try it. a big one might scrape the gram mark........ MAYBE!!!!! do you want me to show you so you can learn something? Because i just LOVE proving people wrong. No really thats being an ass. As were you.

Enjoy my thread..... anyway! can't kill Flowa's buzz :p


I know flowa has inspired many! Really nice to hear when people get there passion back, I mean isnt that what is all about?! Im on the same boat as you eastco. We are lucky to have a guy like flow to share with us. Im looking forward to reading all your stuff to easty. Im sure your uni degree will give you some good insight on how plant work! I have been thinking about going back to school just dont have the time or money (you know the same lame excuses everyone else has). lol Good luck bro! I will be here in Professor's Flowa's class! hahaha
Too kind!!! :)

Totally agree mate, well it SHOULD be what its all about, unfortunately for a lot of growers all they can see is the money. I only grow for my own enjoyment and to help out a mate who is sick and needs weed to sleep and get rid of pain. This pushes me to get the best meds possible for him, i hate seeing him in pain and he's been paying a lot for crap smoke. We always go halves in all costs but i usually give him 3/4 of the buds because he needs it. I was absolutely gutted that mine hermies on me this time, i just want to give him the best smoke possible! Next time will be a LOT better!

Dude i cant tell you how much my degree is helping hey, even though its marine biology it stil helps heaps. It hasnt been easy but has been so worthwhile :) if you get the chance bro, do what makes you happy!! Growing is one thing that i get SO much enjoyment from and i think thats why i get so excited to see Flowa's updates lol!

Next grow i will journal so we can see the same system with different strains :)
You're a good man! i understand where you're coming from

We are on the same page. I would love to make a living doing what I have a passion for. The best saying I have ever heard is "never give up on something you think about everyday". There is 2 things I think about everyday (besides the wife, I will get beat if I dont say I think of her everyday haha) and thats fighting (MMA) and growing. I am at a stand still with my fighting career so I will be focusing on growing. Just to see how much the plant grows over night amazes me evertime! Then on top of that you know that plant will be helping people who need it. I too have a few friends who suffer all day long unless they smoke a little. The politics behind this plant is just blows my mind. Cant wait to see your grow easty! Hope it comes out great for you and your friend.
There is always a way to turn things around for the better! That's life :) very rarely do things get worse. Cannabis is obviously magical!!

I'm using hydroton.. guess I could use bag inside net pot and use perlite??
hydroton is fine, just a little different. Holds more water.

Yeah nice bro :) always have to mention the missus hey :lol:

Hopefully with passionate people like us in this thread, one day we will hopefully get to grow without having to look over our shoulders! Would be nice hey!
Anyway sorry for the hijack Flowa! As you were lol
We gotta give our Mrs heaps of credit!! they have an artificial environment growing the most sort after, most wanted, most widely used substance on the planet.

gotta fly!!!
 

Gorbzzz

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Well said flo, i hate trollers! just come on ya thread to stir shit. You aint called the masta for nothing
 

eastcoastmo

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Lol nice one mate, i can only imagine how stooooned you are hahaha! Awesome!

Sorry for railroading your thread bro, we kinda got a bit carried away lol.

Enjoy the buzz bro and look forward to the next update hey :-)
 

flowamasta

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Well said flo, i hate trollers! just come on ya thread to stir shit. You aint called the masta for nothing
Lol nice one mate, i can only imagine how stooooned you are hahaha! Awesome!

Sorry for railroading your thread bro, we kinda got a bit carried away lol.

Enjoy the buzz bro and look forward to the next update hey :-)
Well said flowa. Now go to sleep b4 you fall down and hurt something! lol
All no problemo :) Haha lol Back from my pass out :p what day is it?! ahh still saturday..... good shit :)

I found out my Jack is a no go for Noob smokers lol had a mate over who hadn't had a cone in a week or so, and i ripped his world apart with 1 cone! poor bugger couldn't hear a word i was saying his brain was going a million miles an hour, i could see his eyes go bloodshot and the effects hit him like a tranquilizer to a buffalo LOL!! He had to sit and 'rest' until he felt safe to drive.

That makes me all warm inside. I did that.... I gave him that memory just like those times waaaaaaaaaaaaay back when I bumped into a strain that makes your eyes melt and your senses sting. It's times like this that make summer, spring, winter and autumn all a better time :) I don't feel like i have to search anymore for that strain, i feel accomplished and ready to taste the next not worrying so much about potency..... funny how we can get.... Not that the next is going to be a downer, actually its looking quite CRAZY!!!!! update coming, but lets see some memories of my last grow.

 

eastcoastmo

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Ha ha ha great work bro, you have done your job lol

It is the best experience when you can do that to mates, especially the ones that dont smoke that often, they almost get that green look on their face ha ha ha!

Ahhhh those buds look like they should be in high times!! You've found the perfect strain bro! I'm hoping to breed my way to the perfect strain now i have the good genetics of old school strains to start with ;) still tryin to find out which is the 'original' jack herer too, ive found a few but its hard to work out the original without knowing who the original breeder was and if the strain is even still in its original form. I'll have to stick to my 1995 original DJ short blueberry and old school NL5 and start from there :)
 

Scrogreen

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Yes flowa can you please ship me a clone? Thanks! haha Im going to be ordering King Kong from dr underground and tryn that out. I have heard good things and no one in this area has it.
 
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