Agreed completely. Any type of properly done training will give structure to the plant and let you get the most out of it. The only downside to growing trees is veg time, and thats not really a concern for hydro growers. But man do I get impatient watching soil plants veg and veg and veg.
And you mentioned the exact problem I've wanted to work out in my scrog cab. I get mostly around 8" tops, everything lining the screen just below that height is fluff. Nice for hash and I dont mind getting away with less trimming here and there, but I'd prefer getting more dense bud. I have a fairly directed hood for my 600w and cool tubes with small cheap wings for the 400s. Gotta say I see almost no difference between the two, though I'm using an odd footprint so it may compensate for the differences. The 1000w in my tent will get close to a 2' canopy of solid bud though, plus another 6-8" of mediocre density that I usually keep most of. And thats with the least directed hood on the market, so I think it just comes down to sheer output. Inverse square law.
Its the same with 'alternative' lighting...T5s and LEDs are more efficient per watt and generally yield frostier looking bud with less heat output(win-win-win) but I dont see anybody growing 5' plants. Theyre forced to grow a large number of small plants, or do intense scrogging or training because they can't get penetration. I'm personally not up for that on a somewhat larger scale though. Maybe a personal grow.
We are all evolving, and erb is coming along for the ride
I also know a few people to use lighting underneath and have had good success but still the flowers are meant to be up top, so i stick to my guns
Hello there Flowa, there is no competion when it comes down sun light vs artificial light. Your smack on the money there mate. You have a good head on your shoulders when it comes down to the indoor garden Flowa
I have got my journal up and running now, there 14 days old now so a little bit late.
Thanx man! great to see you here again, you are dead on with the sunlight comparison. I mean try and look at the sun on a good hot summer day....great way to go blind!
Now you're just showing off. You remind me of... me. Lol.
Fuckin' A. You kick ass, bro. I regard you as a serious threat when it comes to getting views.
God, if there was only some way you could grow California genetics. Damn...
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Clearly a case of the student surpassing the teacher. Your mentor is kind of a cheese-ball. Lol. If this were martial arts instead of growing, you know you would have to kill him, right? Lol.
LOL! you the man Jin! hehe what's that....30ish thou views...woah...i better back off i had no idea.....whistling tapping my shoes. It's the 1 plant thing i think, people can slightly picture it in there head now.......i got my tent.....can'ty be much bigger than that tent.....and he fills it how quick?......hmmmm.....and it's good bud? hang on a minute....... how do you know if these aussie genetics wouldn't tickle your fancy
But yes i would snap a few california strains up without even thinking. But i wouldn't leave the house and i'd have around 10 separate tents running
Thats atleast 10lb at my rates .....you in on that?! may need a hand
Flowa i agree 100% hey. Ive always trained my plants both indoor and out and have never lost quality. I would actually say i gained quality. I remember back at my mums house i pulled 19 oz off a plant that was no taller than 2ft off the ground, i tied that baby like a vine and no one knew it was there. Best damn herb ive ver had too and people still
comment on it, wish i knew what strain it was
if i had a bigger room id still only do 1-2 plants tops, its just how i prefer to do it
Keep the wicked info comin man, its good to read that people still grow the old school way!!
I fukin love this shit!!!
yeah man, dunno if you seen my outdoor grows on RIU but all my outdoories got LST/Topping and a variety of nutrient blends....That's what growin erbs about!
yeah you can throw a seed i the ground and water it....OR you can go absolutely mental! i vegged 1 outdoor plant indoors for 3 weeks then put it outside in summer, trained it while it verted into flowering (force flowered) late summer time and got about 7.5 ounces with massive faaaat buds long as my arms...i gotta pic...or 2
Thanx for that man! i'll check it soon once i've numbed my senses a little more
my only worry is will it be hefty enough to hold up all the fresh buds im gonna have ..... thinking i might get a plastic fence type material for my bottom screen and then use this bungee one as my second .... any thoughts? i noticed the holes in your screen are very large and mine is the same but ive seen many people go with smaller holed screens that seemed as though they might give a bit more support im not to sure tho your the flowamasta after all 
