lol np yeah they're in about 3 to 4 gallons they usually dry out around 4, 5 days i made the bottoms of the buckets and pot like swiss cheese and put some holes around the sides about quarter way up. they seem healthy looking from the top down. just some the leaves have some issues.like i said looks like cal deficiency. it started with lil lower leaves working its way up . i wanna stop it before it goes further lol.
first time grower need some advice an answers from seasoned grower
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they are bag seeds honestly didn't purchase em was seeing how this first grow would turn out being its my first time wanted to see what complications i would run into so i didn't waste money on seends.so no clue on strain .my growing is ina tent,around 72 to 78 degrees Fahrenheit. 60 65 rh.
DankDave420
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I would say Matty is nutrient burn/lockout. He added nutrients when he shouldn't like padilie shouldn't now.
And padilie has cal deficiency. Your ppm is low you are going to need Cal mag.
Calcium is taken up with the transpiration stream. Improper air flow and high humidity inhibit calcium uptake. Make sure your plant is getting a healthy supply of calcium.
P toxicity also locks out cal mag. That is why I wouldn't add nutes, but I don't think that is your problem.
For feeding, at around three weeks you can expect to feed, you probably won't get much fading before that.
While learning you should err on the side of less nutes. It is easier to diagnose and fix.
Those lower leaves in your plant are not an issue, it is where it took the shock. Keeping your upper more important growth healthy.
And padilie has cal deficiency. Your ppm is low you are going to need Cal mag.
Calcium is taken up with the transpiration stream. Improper air flow and high humidity inhibit calcium uptake. Make sure your plant is getting a healthy supply of calcium.
P toxicity also locks out cal mag. That is why I wouldn't add nutes, but I don't think that is your problem.
For feeding, at around three weeks you can expect to feed, you probably won't get much fading before that.
While learning you should err on the side of less nutes. It is easier to diagnose and fix.
Those lower leaves in your plant are not an issue, it is where it took the shock. Keeping your upper more important growth healthy.
Tangerine_
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It could be calcium. Cal gets locked if the ph dives too low. On the flipside, too much Cal will lock out other elements.
this is what I always recommend a balanced "light" feed rather than just adding one or two elements.
If you're set on trying to correct this with bottled nutes, go for a base nute thats complete and balanced.
I dont think you've depleted the nutes in that medium yet though. If it were me, they'd get an inoculation of microbes to get the party started again.
Tangerine_
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Yeah, I didn't want to say it, but I was getting so confused by two issues in the same thread
PadawanWarrior
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Looks like it, but I'm not great at judging deficiencies yet, so I'd get more opinions.
ok so i am on the right track with cal/mag ? Thats what i was thinking but since this my first grow had to get more info on it .so how much cal\mag you suggest i should add ? i just picked some up by roots organic.
DankDave420
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Cannabis def needs lots of Cal-mag. Keep humidity below 60%, fans moving those leaves.
I don't know what I'd recommend, maybe half strength, full strength if you have deficiency.
Depends how much is in your amendments, I don't use liquid Cal-mag anymore, it is in my other amendments.
It is also strain dependent. I increased my Cal-mag ppm from 200 to 250 when I started growing OG.
I found the ppm of mine full strength in RO water. Then added it to my spring water to hit that. Just because I like to err on the less side. But like I said I increased it later on.
I don't know what I'd recommend, maybe half strength, full strength if you have deficiency.
Depends how much is in your amendments, I don't use liquid Cal-mag anymore, it is in my other amendments.
It is also strain dependent. I increased my Cal-mag ppm from 200 to 250 when I started growing OG.
I found the ppm of mine full strength in RO water. Then added it to my spring water to hit that. Just because I like to err on the less side. But like I said I increased it later on.
DankDave420
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Just to specify. Your RH is fine now. Def get it below 60% by flower. Closer to 40% would be ideal by end of flower. I'm not trying to go on a tangent, lowering the humidity would help uptake nutes.
I would flush cal-mag at least 2-3 weeks.
Half way through flower your plants will need less cal and more mag, sulfer will help it ripen up nice.
So switching to mag-sulf(epsom salts)would be ideal in late flower.
I would flush cal-mag at least 2-3 weeks.
Half way through flower your plants will need less cal and more mag, sulfer will help it ripen up nice.
So switching to mag-sulf(epsom salts)would be ideal in late flower.
Yeah, I didn't want to say it, but I was getting so confused by two issues in the same thread
what do you mean inoculation lol ? sorry how do you do that
ok i lowered the humidity its at 45 nowJust to specify. Your RH is fine now. Def get it below 60% by flower. Closer to 40% would be ideal by end of flower. I'm not trying to go on a tangent, lowering the humidity would help uptake nutes.
I would flush cal-mag at least 2-3 weeks.
Half way through flower your plants will need less cal and more mag, sulfer will help it ripen up nice.
So switching to mag-sulf(epsom salts)would be ideal in late flower.
got one more qw can too much cal cause the same effects ?Just to specify. Your RH is fine now. Def get it below 60% by flower. Closer to 40% would be ideal by end of flower. I'm not trying to go on a tangent, lowering the humidity would help uptake nutes.
I would flush cal-mag at least 2-3 weeks.
Half way through flower your plants will need less cal and more mag, sulfer will help it ripen up nice.
So switching to mag-sulf(epsom salts)would be ideal in late flower.
DankDave420
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Inoculation is putting beneficial mychorizae and microbes into your soil. Very important for organic growing. You would buy the powder and add it too your soil. There are many sources.
Too much calcium could lock out other nutrients. It would not look the same. Cannabis can hog alot of calcium.
ok so i just got my test meters other day right and i just filled a bucket of water the same way i filled to water my plants.Checked ppm and ph the ph was 8.0 and ppm was 110 could that have started the issue ?Inoculation is putting beneficial mychorizae and microbes into your soil. Very important for organic growing. You would buy the powder and add it too your soil. There are many sources.
Too much calcium could lock out other nutrients. It would not look the same. Cannabis can hog alot of calcium.
DankDave420
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I feel like I said alot. In summary, If you have a cal deficiency:
If you have sufficient calcium in your soil, lowering the humidity and supplying sufficient airflow will help take up the calcium.
If you have good air flow and humidity, then you would need to add more water soluble calcium.
If you have sufficient calcium in your soil, lowering the humidity and supplying sufficient airflow will help take up the calcium.
If you have good air flow and humidity, then you would need to add more water soluble calcium.
The orange punctate orange spots screamed Ca def to me.
Don't be sorry, ask away
DankDave420
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That doesn't sound like it started any issue. Your water pH is high, but that wouldn't lock out calcium. Your PPM is fairly normal clean water, I can't speculate on what minerals are in it.
Your plants aren't that bad from what I see. Those spots are common, that is when I think most people would consider upping thier calcium intake.
DankDave420
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It is well known that cannabis requires high calcium. I just compare your pictures to the plant deficiency charts. It looks like calcium deficiency to me. I am certainly no expert.
I dont think the plant is trying to trick us.
Good luck.
I dont think the plant is trying to trick us.
Good luck.