First time cloning

bobbydc

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What’s up everyone, first time cloning and I know it’s a learning process. Took the first cuttings today and want to know if they should be drooping the first day. They looked strong when I cut them but now some are beginning to lean over. Is this normal and should they be back perky within a few days? All help is appreciated
 

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bobbydc

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Got 150 watts in the tent, the temp is about 75 and the rh is about the same. Yes I have a dome and a heating mat under the bottom of the propagation tank
 

calvin.m16

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Looks good and your environment also sounds good. They will droop the first couple days just spray them with plain water once a day and they should perk right up. In the next week or two you should have some roots popping out and transplantable clones.

Clones like a warm humid environment and until the roots develop they rely on drinking water from the leaves which requires you spray them once a day with your environment. With dryer rooms or hoodless setups you can sometimes have to spray clones as much as twice a day.

Don't over soak your plugs they're in, keep them moist but not soaked or your clones will die, mainly focus on saturating leaves early off and just give the plugs a little spray to keep them moist but not sopping wet.
 

bobbydc

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Thank you all for the suggestions and reassurance, I’ll post pics with updates in the next few days, happy growing guys
 

bobbydc

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What’s up everyone, a week later and here we are. Of the 15 cuttings taken I think only 10 will survive, got 5 really droopy ones that aren’t showing signs of improvement. No roots yet either but I know it could take longer, should I begin opening the vents to get them used to a less humid environment? It’s been pretty consistent this whole time, between 70-80 rh and in the 70’s for Fahrenheit
 

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Herb & Suds

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They don’t appear to be in as humid of environment as you say
I would mist that lid and stop touching them
Many things determine rooting speed like take cuttings from a recently fed plant slows rooting considerably
I am wondering if those wilted ones have good contact with the rockwool or if you may have caused an air embolism in them
Either way I would just stop opening up that cover and reduce light as well
They will all of the sudden pop roots in a week or so more if you do
Let me add I’ve seen a lot of cuts look terrible and still root
Yours look fine
So hang in there
 

bobbydc

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They don’t appear to be in as humid of environment as you say
I would mist that lid and stop touching them
Many things determine rooting speed like take cuttings from a recently fed plant slows rooting considerably
I am wondering if those wilted ones have good contact with the rockwool or if you may have caused an air embolism in them
Either way I would just stop opening up that cover and reduce light as well
They will all of the sudden pop roots in a week or so more if you do
Let me add I’ve seen a lot of cuts look terrible and still root
Yours look fine
So hang in there
Check the hygrometer in the picture, the relative humidity is 84% and it’s been that way for a week, between 70-80%. And I don’t open it much unless it looks dry inside then I’ll give it a mist. I’m using Midas rooting gel and misting solution for root development, most days they only get sprayed with regular water though
 

Herb & Suds

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Check the hygrometer in the picture, the relative humidity is 84% and it’s been that way for a week, between 70-80%. And I don’t open it much unless it looks dry inside then I’ll give it a mist. I’m using Midas rooting gel and misting solution for root development, most days they only get sprayed with regular water though
I think you overlooked the "stop touching them " part
I have no way of knowing the accuracy of that hygrometer nor do I care

I'm saying those cuttings are drooping and shouldn't be at this point
You are just doing to much
Rooting solution and spraying is making your wait longer
But hey it is your grow
Good luck
 

BenGman

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Should of been told a week ago to seal them rockwool holes around the stems, should of been done straight away and they should be rooting pretty much by now or just starting, also that rockwool should be not wet but just damp, by flciking them with your wrist over the sink till pretty much no more water shakes out, put in dome completely shut for two days!, Then open duct holes half way for 2 days...then completely open two days after than, should start the roots forming, my strike rate is 90%+ doing it like that, some just never root.

As suds mentioned , air embolism in the stem..you MUST cut on a 45/90° angle across the bottom of the stem then dip it straight into water or cloning gel asap to seal the cut.

Anyway keep practicing , i failed my first batch by not knowing the few things i mentioned
 

bobbydc

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I think you overlooked the "stop touching them " part
I have no way of knowing the accuracy of that hygrometer nor do I care

I'm saying those cuttings are drooping and shouldn't be at this point
You are just doing to much
Rooting solution and spraying is making your wait longer
But hey it is your grow
Good luck
I know it’s accurate, you said it didn’t look as humid as I say like I don’t know what I’m saying so I referred you to the hygrometer. I’m not claiming to know everything, just trying to navigate the process because cloning is new to me. I’m sure there are tons of ways to clone. If you assume I’m doing things that I’m actually not doing then you’re no help. I’m open to hear what you have to say but don’t tell me I’m doing too much like you’re right beside me when I’m caring for my crop, thanks for the luck I’m sure I’ll need it first time.
 

bobbydc

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Should of been told a week ago to seal them rockwool holes around the stems, should of been done straight away and they should be rooting pretty much by now or just starting, also that rockwool should be not wet but just damp, by flciking them with your wrist over the sink till pretty much no more water shakes out, put in dome completely shut for two days!, Then open duct holes half way for 2 days...then completely open two days after than, should start the roots forming, my strike rate is 90%+ doing it like that, some just never root.

As suds mentioned , air embolism in the stem..you MUST cut on a 45/90° angle across the bottom of the stem then dip it straight into water or cloning gel asap to seal the cut.

Anyway keep practicing , i failed my first batch by not knowing the few things i mentioned
how would I seal them, just simply squeeze it together? And I made sure they weren’t soaked, cut at the 45 degree angle, even sterilized my scalpel each time I took a cut, dipped clones in gel right away. The dome has been closed except for when I need to spray with water and I haven’t disturbed them except to check the bottoms for roots today, I think I made the mistake by not sealing the hole, maybe air got in, I read about air getting in stems during cloning process, and I didn’t crack the vents on the dome after 2 days, I just left it closed completely because as I say the humidity has held between 70-80%
 

bobbydc

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I appreciate the feedback from everyone! I’ll implement some of the tricks and tips listed here on the next round. Should I let these be and give them time to root or just scratch these and start over? They don’t look too bad but I don’t want to be wasting my time either. Trying to get a perpetual set up going. Again, thanks everyone.
 

myke

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I appreciate the feedback from everyone! I’ll implement some of the tricks and tips listed here on the next round. Should I let these be and give them time to root or just scratch these and start over? They don’t look too bad but I don’t want to be wasting my time either. Trying to get a perpetual set up going. Again, thanks everyone.
They'll root,they look good compared to some others you see here.Your not far off ,leave them covered 80% humidity wont be long.
 
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